Hahaha... ok. Wow, you're amazing when you're stuck in a spin of rationalizing stuff away to yourself to protect your ideology.
"That racism the GOP admits to having been involved in for decades... it wasn't really! It was just... umm... the GOP pointing out how racist the Democrats are! It was all only because the Democrats are soooo racist that the GOP had to develop a multi-decade systemic strategy of racism they only copped to a few years ago. That's it! I feel better now!"
Beautiful.
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
Which is more racist Joph? The guy saying "If you're black, vote Democrat and we'll make sure that you get a disproportionate share of government aid" or the guy saying "If you're white, don't vote Democrat or they'll make you pay for a disproportionate portion of government aid".
These statements are factors of greed, Eichmann, not racism. Try again.
Having said that; those statement are equal.*
You're not very good at this.
ETA: * Equally obnoxious, that is.
Edited, Jul 26th 2010 8:44pm by Bijou
remorajunbao wrote:
One day I'm going to fly to Canada and open the curtains in your office.
gbaji wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
So you don't find it ironic in any way (particularly after your claim that I quoted) that the man who ran for president on a Segregationist platform, and whose record-breaking filibuster was on Civil Rights Reform, was the second-longest seated congressman in US history?
And you don't see any sort of false perception and/or double standard to the fact that both Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd held the same position on Segregation and opposition to the civil rights movement, with the exception that Thurmond held it as a states rights issue, and Byrd held it because he was a member of the KKK, yet while Thurmond's obit read "Foe of integration", Byrd's read "Respected voice of the Senate"?
gbaji wrote:
I know you liberals love bumper sticker politics, but that's kinda ridiculous.
You mean like those "death panels!!!!"? Honestly, I wouldn't mind half the ******** you spew if you didn't make absolutely everything into a partisan matter.
Jophed,
The key here is Democrats don't admit to being racist. Even now they're ready to defend an openly racist woman.
Why don't you go look at which party supported rights throughout the 60's if you're really interested in comparing which party has a history of racism.
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Hahaha... ok. Wow, you're amazing when you're stuck in a spin of rationalizing stuff away to yourself to protect your ideology.
"That racism the GOP admits to having been involved in for decades... it wasn't really! It was just... umm... the GOP pointing out how racist the Democrats are! It was all only because the Democrats are soooo racist that the GOP had to develop a multi-decade systemic strategy of racism they only copped to a few years ago. That's it! I feel better now!"
Beautiful.
"That racism the GOP admits to having been involved in for decades... it wasn't really! It was just... umm... the GOP pointing out how racist the Democrats are! It was all only because the Democrats are soooo racist that the GOP had to develop a multi-decade systemic strategy of racism they only copped to a few years ago. That's it! I feel better now!"
Beautiful.
The key here is Democrats don't admit to being racist. Even now they're ready to defend an openly racist woman.
Why don't you go look at which party supported rights throughout the 60's if you're really interested in comparing which party has a history of racism.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Why don't you go look at which party supported rights throughout the 60's if you're really interested in comparing which party has a history of racism.
I'm glad that you cling to your bosom **** that happened 40-50 years ago as if it truely applies to today. We aren't talking about racism from our parents and grandparents days, we're talking about us.
Kael,
And like the title of the thread says Democrats are racist. Only in the Dem party can you have people like Sharpton, Rev. Wright, and their pupils thrive and prosper. Only in the Dem party do race quotas matter. And now because of white guilt we've elected a truly racist president.
Edited, Jul 27th 2010 10:22am by knoxxsouthy
And like the title of the thread says Democrats are racist. Only in the Dem party can you have people like Sharpton, Rev. Wright, and their pupils thrive and prosper. Only in the Dem party do race quotas matter. And now because of white guilt we've elected a truly racist president.
Edited, Jul 27th 2010 10:22am by knoxxsouthy
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Why don't you go look at which party supported rights throughout the 60's
You realize of course that the genesis of the Southern Strategy was the ability to say "Those Democrats gave those uppity negros the Civil Rights Act!"
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Why don't you go look at which party supported rights throughout the 60's
You realize of course
knoxxsouthy wrote:
And now because of white guilt we've elected a truly racist president.
Then I truly hope the stormtroppers come knocking on your southern white door, drag you from your home and beat you to death with a black man.
Hows that for overreaching?
Kael,
I'd much rather take 1 beating from a black man than have them steal from me every month the rest of my life.
I'd much rather take 1 beating from a black man than have them steal from me every month the rest of my life.
Who said it'll be one or the other?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
So if you admit to racism it's okay?
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
You have to say the Democrats made you do it. Then it's okay because it's really them who are racist.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophed,
You mean like blaming the firing of Sherrod on the GOP and right wing pundits?
Edited, Jul 27th 2010 12:50pm by knoxxsouthy
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You have to say the Democrats made you do it
You mean like blaming the firing of Sherrod on the GOP and right wing pundits?
Edited, Jul 27th 2010 12:50pm by knoxxsouthy
No, Breitbart is to blame for putting out edited up video with an intro that lies about its content. Vilsack & Co are to blame for being stupid enough to believe that Breitbart would post something legitimate and acting on his hacked up video in firing Sherrod. Breitbart might be a racist liar who edits video to forward his agenda but he didn't make Vilsack stupid.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophed,
Everything the liberal media puts out there is edited. But all of a sudden now you care about context.
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Breitbart is to blame for putting out edited up video
Everything the liberal media puts out there is edited. But all of a sudden now you care about context.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Jophed,
Everything the liberal media puts out there is edited. But all of a sudden now you care about context.
Quote:
Breitbart is to blame for putting out edited up video
Everything the liberal media puts out there is edited. But all of a sudden now you care about context.
Well, that's one way to try and frantically change the subject, I suppose.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Why don't you go look at which party supported rights throughout the 60's
You realize of course that the genesis of the Southern Strategy was the ability to say "Those Democrats gave those uppity negros the Civil Rights Act!"
See. This is why I wanted you to explain what you meant when you used the phrase. That's *not* the "Southern Strategy" Joph. It wasn't so much a strategy as an assumption that for every black vote the Democrats won in the South by supporting civil rights, they'd lose a white racist Democrat. It wasn't about energizing white racist Republicans. It was about getting white racist Democrats to vote GOP instead out of disgust with their own party.
The point is that even though some adviser mentioned it, there's absolutely no evidence that this idea had any effect at all on southern politics. Nixon went on 4 years later to win 38% of the black vote. It's hard to argue that white racist Democrats were flocking to the GOP during that same time period, nor that black voters were fleeing (yet anyway).
More relevantly to your silly attempts to argue that the southern strategy is still in play somehow, is the fact that it relies on an assumed large number of white racist Democrats in the south who'll switch their votes if their party gets too cozy with black folks. Um... Are you seriously arguing that this is the case today? You're trying to associate GOP actions today with a label from 40 years ago, which doesn't even remotely apply. But you'll do it anyway, because that label makes whomever it's applied to a racist! Oh yes... If you are in the GOP, you support the "Southern Strategy" and that makes you a racist. Joph said so on the interwebs so it must be true!!!
Lol...
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
That's *not* the "Southern Strategy" Joph.
LERN2REED
I said its genesis came in the ability to make that argument. I never said that was the Southern Strategy in its entirety or anything else.
I understand that you're desperate to convince yourself that the GOP didn't have a systemic campaign of racism for decades but maybe some day you'll wake up just a little bit.
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More relevantly to your silly attempts to argue that the southern strategy is still in play somehow
I never said that. I said that it went on for decades and was first seriously acknowledged and apologized for a few years ago. Again, learning to read things instead of being in full-defense mode where you can't even comprehend what you're reading because you're too busy working the pro-GOP spin in your little mind would seriously do you wonders.
Edited, Jul 27th 2010 4:42pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
because you're too busy working the pro-GOP spin in your little mind would seriously do you wonders.
Then what would we respond to?
Kaelesh wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
because you're too busy working the pro-GOP spin in your little mind would seriously do you wonders.
Posts about our theme songs and what we're doing over the weekend.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Well not for nothin' but I'd take a Gbaji over a Nobby and a Moe. At least he's crazy enough to be entertaining.
Jophed,
I also understand that you're desperate to avoid, at all costs, any implication of the Democrat party being involved with institutional racism. I sure wish you would wake up sooner rather than later.
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understand that you're desperate to convince yourself that the GOP didn't have a systemic campaign of racism for decades but maybe some day you'll wake up just a little bit
I also understand that you're desperate to avoid, at all costs, any implication of the Democrat party being involved with institutional racism. I sure wish you would wake up sooner rather than later.
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