Democrats are racistsFollow

Nadenu,

And for just as many pages you liberals have fought tooth and nail pretending this woman wasn't racist when the facts clearly show she is. I'm saying the same sh*t because you keep giving the same replies. Admit this lady is racist and that both the democrats and republicans have racists in their ranks and maybe we can move on.

This is me, taking you out of context and misquoting you.

Enjoy.

I don't think Varus needs you to frantically backpedal for him but it was sweet of you to offer.

Jophed,



Just as soon as you provide me with some outspoken racist republicans that are still in office i'll be more than happy to start a thread discussing racists in the GOP. As it stands when the GOP find racism in their ranks we generally kick them out.

Ash,

You're a tool. But you knew that.

So you don't find it ironic in any way (particularly after your claim that I quoted) that the man who ran for president on a Segregationist platform, and whose record-breaking filibuster was on Civil Rights Reform, was the second-longest seated congressman in US history?

As long as said unequal treatment exists it is a perfectly valid component of the party's platform.

And you don't see any sort of false perception and/or double standard to the fact that both Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd held the same position on Segregation and opposition to the civil rights movement, with the exception that Thurmond held it as a states rights issue, and Byrd held it because he was a member of the KKK, yet while Thurmond's obit read "Foe of integration", Byrd's read "Respected voice of the Senate"?

The only real difference is that one was a Democrat and the other a Republican. You perceive Republicans to be racist because you keep getting told over and over that they are. But when you look closely, what you'll find is that you're told this over and over not because the Republicans have any special connection with racism, but because those telling you this want you to believe that it's true. Same deal here. The NAACP calls the Tea Party racist over and over. And with enough repetition people will believe it. And in the context of much longer repetition of that claim against conservatives in general, it becomes even easier to believe.

But if you look a little closer, it's not really true.

Edited, Jul 26th 2010 3:33pm by gbaji

"Southern Strategy" as you presumably meant it, hasn't been a formal component of the GOP since the Nixon administration (and even then meant different things to different people) and barring some explanation as to what you really mean by saying it, doesn't have a whole lot of relevance in comparison to claims being made today.

The other's are so broad that they could mean just about anything. What I was looking for was some kind of actual explanation as to how those things constituted any sort of response to what I said. Predictably, you went in a complete different direction though. Way to avoid the point.

Edited, Jul 26th 2010 5:17pm by gbaji

No. I'm saying that one adviser outlying a strategy one time for one presidential election, in which it doesn't appear to have been used or to have worked, does not constitute a "systematic embrace of racism by the GOP". And no amount of liberals saying "southern strategy" over and over makes it any more of a component to actual GOP strategy.

But you'll keep trying I suppose. Silly me for expecting that perhaps you might actually explain how a "southern strategy" is in play by the GOP today. Perhaps with some support other than tenuous word-associations and repeated insistence by liberals that it does?

Since you have refused to explain what you mean when you say "southern strategy", I'm forced to go out on a limb and argue against what I assume you mean. In doing so, I will say that Mehlman's words did not specify a strategy of "wooing white racists from the Democrats", which is the traditional meaning (and what was referred to by the Nixon adviser in question). They are two different things.

What Mehlman was talking about was that because the Dems had so completely sewn up black voters in many districts, the GOP ignored them and sometimes even played on the fact that the Dems were doing this. Um... But that's a response to the Dems strategy. Which is more racist Joph? The guy saying "If you're black, vote Democrat and we'll make sure that you get a disproportionate share of government aid" or the guy saying "If you're white, don't vote Democrat or they'll make you pay for a disproportionate portion of government aid". One is a response to the other. I don't see how pointing out racist policies by the Dems makes one a racist. In fact, it's somewhat absurd that anyone would think this. But labels are easy things to apply, I suppose.


The phrase "southern strategy" is a boogieman used by liberals when attacking the GOP on the issue of race. The only overt use of the phrase to describe an actual proposed racist policy was by the Nixon adviser, and there's no evidence the strategy was actually used. Nixon got 38% of the black vote in 1972, so if he was planing on painting the Dems as a party of black people in order to get white racists to leave the Dems and join the GOP, it seems to have failed pretty completely in both directions. But the left keeps referring back to that and associating every GOP action with regard to race politics (and a bunch that aren't) to it.


It's weak. Doubly so if all you do is just say "cough Southern Strategy cough" as though by just saying two words, you've actually make any sort of point at all. I know you liberals love bumper sticker politics, but that's kinda ridiculous.