I've argued the same thing. The message of Christ has been abused for the sake of new people and money coming into church coffers around the country.
It bothers me that people that are supposed to be tolerant of others (stone chucking, sin, and all), and "judge not, lest ye be judged (and found unworthy" is usually left out for some reason, I can't imagine why :roll:)" can be some of the most ignorant people.
I just live my life, tell people about the blessings that I've recieved, and some other messages when needed (and only when needed, I'm not the type to discuss Christianity in public, mostly because of people like this woman), and ignore most of the people that exist on this planet, why can't everyone just do what they're supposed to do, not what they "think" they're supposed to do?
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why can't everyone just do what they're supposed to do, not what they "think" they're supposed to do?
Because throughout any belief there are different representations thrown out. As this woman stated, her preacher had just delivered a sermon against homosexuality. The preacher himself seemed to misunderstand the whole throwing stones bit. Or he conveniently "forgot" about it. So technically, this woman was doing what you think people should be doing. More people are sheep for not looking into what theyre being taught on their own. I guess it makes life easier for them to stay ignorant on their beliefs than to question everything
Ignorance is bliss, or so I hear.
It is easier than looking back at your past actions and feeling ashamed for being such a follower without wondering why you have the prejudices you carry.
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I had no idea that you were ordained, what made you give up the cloth?
Long story, but I didn't. My post, my usual rants against the individual and collective ignorance of church-goers and churches themselves along with a hint that I may have been outspoken regarding the bastardization of the message and Pavlovian attention to dogmatic tradition without regard to the intent of Christ in his teachings (regardless of how you view his divinity) may go some distance to suggesting why the ordaining church may have rescinded my ordination.
So how many boys did you taint before they quit you?
All I got from that story is that apparently gays throw like little girls. 
Good to see you around, Sabo.
Good to see you around, Sabo.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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I've argued the same thing. The message of Christ has been abused for the sake of new people and money coming into church coffers around the country.
Thats bound to start you off on the wrong foot.
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after all it was a Pagen that had it put together political reasons.
LIES! The bible is the inspired word of Gawd as written down by the anointed to record the will of the almighty that his followers may be taught! It is infallible. It is not open to interpretation. It must be accepted as literally divine in whole or else denied and the unbeliever shall be purged from among you!
EDIT: I really wish I could spell.
Edited, Jul 2nd 2007 1:38pm by MoebiusLord
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LIES! The bible is the inspired word of Gawd as written down by the anointed to record the will of the almighty that his followers may be taught! It is infallible. It is not open to interpretation. It must be accepted as literally divine in whole or else denied and the unbeliever shall be purged from among you!
best I get me some really good sun block!
Its almost my favorite discussion to have with "Christians". It comes in a distant second though to "Why do you believe that?". That game makes me happy and filled with warm sunshine. Don't misunderstand, please. I am actually quite envious of genuine faith, and when I encounter it I am humbled, but the vast, vast, majority of people professing faith in any religion really haven't got a clue what it is they're talking about.
MoebiusLord the Irrelevant wrote:
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after all it was a Pagen that had it put together political reasons.
LIES! The bible is the inspired word of Gawd as written down by the anointed to record the will of the almighty that his followers may be taught! It is infallible. It is not open to interpretation. It must be accepted as literally divine in whole or else denied and the unbeliever shall be purged from among you!
$5 said you could not write that with a straight face. I know I couldnt read it with one
I guess I've just never understood the idea of conversion via irritation; the idea that if I get on your nerves enough and annoy the **** out of you, eventually you'll believe the same things I do. That, and the idea that religion has no room for self-interpretation, that everyone in one religion has to believe all the same things and that within a religion there's no room for disagreement. It's that kind of thing that turned me off religion in the first place.
And yes, I throw like a girl. On the other hand, I hit a whole lot better than I throw, so it's a shame I didn't just swing on the heifer. =(
EDIT: Since I see you up there Nobby, Darq, I don't suppose I could get one of you to log in and send me an invite to TINFS, eh? I've been watching for you guys for the past few days but nobody's been on.
Edited, Jul 2nd 2007 3:45pm by Saboruto
And yes, I throw like a girl. On the other hand, I hit a whole lot better than I throw, so it's a shame I didn't just swing on the heifer. =(
EDIT: Since I see you up there Nobby, Darq, I don't suppose I could get one of you to log in and send me an invite to TINFS, eh? I've been watching for you guys for the past few days but nobody's been on.
Edited, Jul 2nd 2007 3:45pm by Saboruto
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I guess I've just never understood the idea of conversion via irritation;
Well, on the other hand it beats the living hell (no pun intended) over the traditional method of "torture him til he converts, then kill him".
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
What a drama queen.
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After trying for a moment to wrap my head around exactly what it was she wanted, I attempted to use our primitive computer system to see if we had any such bibles. As the infernal beast (the PC, not the woman) did its work, I attempted to engage my customer in polite conversation.
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That so turned me on...
Things I sometimes play...
"What do you want to be when you grow up?"
"I want to be a unicorn!"
"Awww, why's that?"........
"So I can stab people with my face."
"What do you want to be when you grow up?"
"I want to be a unicorn!"
"Awww, why's that?"........
"So I can stab people with my face."
I don't think I've ever met anyone with true faith. Everyone I know is either like the cow in Sabo's post or they're just your average Joe that goes to church because it's what you do on Sunday morning.
Ah yes... religious people and Georiga. Folks, not everyone in the south is a relligious nut job. I promise. I live in Georiga as well, and we're not all like that. The south gets a bad rap... and all that... anyways...
It's an unfortunate thing that its always the most obnoxious and noisy members of society that get the most attention. I'm not a Christian myself, but the core of the religion is decent. The dude himself had only one rule: be nice to other people. It's all the jerkwads who came after him that messed up what he said.
Furthermore, that whole bit about homosexuality being against the rule of God? Just tell them that the Bible also approves the death sentence to children who speek out against their parents, oxen owners who accidentally injure someone, anyone who makes a fire on a Sunday, and also has silly things about how we should not suffer witches to live. The Bible also seems to approve of kids sleeping with their parents, having multiple spouces, and yet is firmly against women being allowed to wear pants.
Just 'cause its in the book doesn't mean it makes sense. Lots of stupid people wrote parts of the Bible. What people choose to focus on demonstrates their own forms of hatred.
Oh, and speaking of which--not all overweight folks are bad either. :-)
It's an unfortunate thing that its always the most obnoxious and noisy members of society that get the most attention. I'm not a Christian myself, but the core of the religion is decent. The dude himself had only one rule: be nice to other people. It's all the jerkwads who came after him that messed up what he said.
Furthermore, that whole bit about homosexuality being against the rule of God? Just tell them that the Bible also approves the death sentence to children who speek out against their parents, oxen owners who accidentally injure someone, anyone who makes a fire on a Sunday, and also has silly things about how we should not suffer witches to live. The Bible also seems to approve of kids sleeping with their parents, having multiple spouces, and yet is firmly against women being allowed to wear pants.
Just 'cause its in the book doesn't mean it makes sense. Lots of stupid people wrote parts of the Bible. What people choose to focus on demonstrates their own forms of hatred.
Oh, and speaking of which--not all overweight folks are bad either. :-)
MoebiusLord the Irrelevant wrote:
LIES! The bible is the inspired word of Gawd as written down by the anointed to record the will of the almighty that his followers may be taught! It is infallible. It is not open to interpretation. It must be accepted as literally divine in whole or else denied and the unbeliever shall be purged from among you!
Which version? Because they're all different. Starting with the titles.
A friend of mine got kicked out of CCD (and almost slapped by a nun) for pointing that out.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Offensive biggotry is just that.
As someone terminally academic enough to have read the books of the major religions, they all share a central message of tolerance and peace, yet all have a few paragraphs that can be twisted to justify vengeance or judgemental prejudice.
Sometimes it manifests itself in 'christian' countries invading 'non-christian' ones.
Sometimes the bombing of innocednts by morans masquerading as muslims.
Caffliks bombing Proddystants (and vice versa).
I have nothing but contempt for religion. (Spirituality is a different kettle of fish)
Welcome back my ********** friend. Hope the rest of life is working out for you.
On the other hand, she was dumb enough to look for bespoke literature in a discount book store, so you should have buried your jimmy choos in her face. It's allowed (Allah/Jebus/Vishnu/Yahweh would approve)
As someone terminally academic enough to have read the books of the major religions, they all share a central message of tolerance and peace, yet all have a few paragraphs that can be twisted to justify vengeance or judgemental prejudice.
Sometimes it manifests itself in 'christian' countries invading 'non-christian' ones.
Sometimes the bombing of innocednts by morans masquerading as muslims.
Caffliks bombing Proddystants (and vice versa).
I have nothing but contempt for religion. (Spirituality is a different kettle of fish)
Welcome back my ********** friend. Hope the rest of life is working out for you.
On the other hand, she was dumb enough to look for bespoke literature in a discount book store, so you should have buried your jimmy choos in her face. It's allowed (Allah/Jebus/Vishnu/Yahweh would approve)
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Smaller bibles make better missiles, there aerodynamics are much cleaner!
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Smaller bibles make better missiles, there aerodynamics are much cleaner!
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NEVER associate aerodynamics and Scientology in the same post ever again! What did airplanes ever do to you?
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Posted: Jul 02 2007 at 5:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) live and let live. have some fun while your here too if you can. as repressed as she probably was, she could have rocked your world. she wasnt presenting you with a problem, she was presenting you with an opertunity.
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As someone terminally academic enough to have read the books of the major religions, they all share a central message of tolerance and peace, yet all have a few paragraphs that can be twisted to justify vengeance or judgemental prejudice.
It seemed to me that it was a book written 1500 years ago by a man with real issues regarding women and anyone who didn't believe what he did, and never changed an iota.
It was however a more entertaining read than the monstrosity "written" by that Smith dude, people must be really really stupid to fall for that sh*t...
I'm still hung up on the fact that you managed to miss a fat woman in an isle.
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