WTF. Iran teen gets death for saving herself from rape?Follow

Sorry if this is old news but I just heard about it now.
A teen from Iran 18 saved herself and her 16 year old niece from rape by stabbing one of the 3 men trying to rape them with a knife. The man died and now they both are sentanced to be hanged for murder just for defending themselfs.

Full story here http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/13139/Iranian_Teen_Sentenced_to_Die_for_Self_Defense

Can the world be any more farked up?

wwdragon

This is Iran we're talking about here.

This is far too true. It seems that they get a pass for things that the rest of the world would be chastized for...new law requiring "uniforms" based on religious prefrence anyone?


<edit> missed a whole word...

Edited, Sun May 21 12:48:30 2006 by brotherskeeper

people suck

Edited, Sun May 21 13:13:39 2006 by Kelvyquayo

Has anyone bothered to tell this to GW yet? might make the world a better place.

nice to have you back PJ.

I don't think anybody in this thread advocated invading Iran over this. Jumping the gun a bit?

True, it's their law, and it isn't our place to forcefully change it. But I can only hope that the rest of the world can somehow influence Iran diplomatically to gradually pull them away from what oughta be recognized by everybody as a massive violation of human rights.

We're never going to perfect our own society so completely that we never violate human rights either. It's impossible to reach a state where we're flawless, and thusly able to tell everyone else what to do. Even if we did, people would criticize us for our sketchy history of abuses.

I'm sure as hell not going to defend the current administration. But in a situation like this, when the lack of human rights in Iran is clear, I think every country, not just the US, should take an active role in trying to dissuade that behavior as diplomatically as is possible. When people are dying for unjust reasons, criticism needs to come from somewhere, and people of any country can't be tip-toeing around the issue because they're afraid to incur criticism for their own human rights abuses.



Edited, Sun May 21 15:27:17 2006 by Eske

Our criticism will come from other countries that have their own problems, too. Shouldn't they be taking care of their own **** before telling us what our problems are?

It's a vicious cycle. The only way to break it that way is for people within the country to advocate what is sometimes a dramatic upheaval of their current system. But in many countries, they lack that positive momentum. This could be because society or government violently stifles any forward progress, which is often the case in a country like Iran. They do not have the freedom to orchestrate such change, as we do here in the US.

That is why I think that pressure needs to come from outsiders.

I should clarify that I think having a good human rights record will make your case to these countries more believable. But I do not think there is a morality reason that we cannot criticize. At the worst, we will open ourselves up to criticism, which we oughta be doing anyway.

For the record, i've advocated turning Iran into a shiny glass crater for years now. ***** that invasion ****, we need a nuke testing ground

My own idea, while similar to Kao's, is a bit broader in scope. Pretty much everything between Pakistan and Egypt.

I picked up a copy of the Koran at the local book store. I've read through and enjoyed the Dhammaphada, Tao te Ching, Bhagavad Gita etc. Also since I have owned and trudged my way through Hodgsons three volume "The Venture of Islam" I figured 'why not?".

Talk about pure ***** in text form.

To be fair alot of it had to do with Penguin Classics probably using a dry, overly literal translation. I know their translation of the Divine Comedy is only passing when compared to Modern Classic Libraries version using Wordsworth's translation.

Poor translation or not it reads like the repetitive ramblings of a 6th century loon. Just read Al-Nisa (Women) which is oddly more about inheritance laws than "women". The few parts that mention women though clearly are explicitly misogynistic.

When you have Shari'a law based off the Koran and its companion Hadith being administered by an extremist theocracy its no suprise when ***** like this happens.

My 72 virgins were bought and paid for by Plat Sellers!!!

no its pure muslim law you are talking about. females have no rights in islam.