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#27 May 05 2006 at 1:50 AM Rating: Good

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Ambrya wrote:

Chtulhu wrote:

Ambrya wrote:

Shadowrelm, this is the second time you have posted a rant like this

You new around here, or did you mean the second time within the past few days?

I remember him posting on this exact subject a few weeks ago. I know he has posted other rants, but on this particular subject, it's been a while.

It was the exact same subject, but here's what bothers me:

It's obvious that shadowrelm practices selective reading. He picks his battles, ignoring the good points and questions that others pose which deflate his argument.

The last time he posted this rant, many people, myself included, said the same things that we're saying now. We mentioned the merits of teaching estimation skills, and the theory and thought process education techniques.

Now it's obvious that he simply didn't read any of those posts, because he's posting the exact same crap a couple months later. Fact is, he just likes to complain. He doesn't want to hear feedback.

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#28 May 05 2006 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent

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Ambrya wrote:

shadowrelm wrote:

barely coherent rant

Shadowrelm, this is the second time you have posted a rant like this and it's the second time I've found myself thinking that the idea that YOU, who cannot even capitalize properly, much less spell basic elementary-level words like "administration" or "finished" properly, should make even a pretense at caring about the state of the education system, is a joke.

Estimating, and even guesstimating, has a very distinct real world value. There is a reason it's taught in schools. For example, you go to the grocery store. You have $100 to spend on groceries. Everthing in the grocery store is priced $xx.99 or $xx.97 or $xx.95. If you buy 5 items at $3.97 each, is it not more REASONABLE to estimate that you are going to be spending $20 on those items, than to take the time to come up with $19.85 exactly?

The reason your daughter failed her test is because she didn't follow directions. The teacher gave directions telling her to solve the problems using a particular method that has a valid, real-world application, and therefore is important to know. Rather than doing it the way the teacher instructed her to do it, she did it another way. Therefore, she did not follow directions. Therefore, she got the answer wrong. It's no different than failing an algebra test because the teacher tells you to show your work and instead you just write down the answer. Even if the answer is correct, IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS, YOU DON'T PASS THE TEST. Because part of the testing process is not just judging whether or not you have the ability to come up with the right answer, but whether or not you have the ability TO PERFORM THE PROCESS NECESSARY TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT ANSWER. It's not always about the answer. Sometimes, it's about learning to THINK a certain way in certain situations. That is a valuable real-world lesson that our children NEED to learn.

Instead of teaching your daughter to be a whiner when something doesn't go her way, and instead of teaching her disrespect for the judgement and authority of her teachers, teach her the value of doing things the way she's told to do them.

And STFU, estimating skills were taught in our school systems long before Bush took office and the FCATs came into common use.

Lady Ambrya, you rock.

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