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In raelity though, if employers were forced to pay decent wages, and insurance, and health care, they would probably move those jobs to countries where there is cheap labour.

And thats pretty much what they do already.

And anyway, the current protests stem from a law that Congress wanted to pass. That law would turn illegral immagration into a crime ("felony"), and would turn anyone helping them (by giving them a house/job) a felon too. It basically would criminalise 5% of the total US work force directly (illegal immigrants) and a much higher percentage indirectly (those that "help").

Some (mildly) intresting stats
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I dont really get why you are anti-illegal-immigrants. It's not like they commit crimes, they do ****** jobs for little money. If thats no a neocon's wetdream, I dont know what is...

Your parents.

Otherwise, it reads "you are parents are illegal..." And then people complain about those illegal immigrants...

Oh, the irony.

And, to answer your question, no.

Oh come on. They commited a crime by comming here illegally.
If they are allowed to stay here and go about there way then its just a slap in the face to everyone who is trying to go about it the legal way.

I completely agree.

And so do some other people.



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Seems much better than wanting to criminalise them all, especially considering how packed the prisons in teh US already are.

Well gues what? Tough f'ucking ****.
Just because the law is not convenient or in accord with your schedule doesn't mean you can disregard it. Rally to reform the law, not to support breaking it.

Once upon a time, there was both the Underground Railroad anda push for a Constitutional Amendment. It's hard for most Americans to concieve of growing up in a place, with a mindset, where the government is not there to help you but to hold you back, and where laws mean nothing if you have enough money to pay off whoever's on your back. For the poor and disenfranchised of the world, illegal immigration to the United States isn't something they undertake lightly. It's a desperate act. Learning to trust the laws and the governments takes time.
Immigrants that have been here a while learn to trust the United States as a law-abiding place, but if they have been raised with a lifetime of something else, it's not logical to think that they would understand that people are expected to respect the law here, and that sometimes, there are no mitigating factors. This, however, is part of the assimilation process. It doesn't happen overnight.

Spoken like a true liberal. I hate you guys.

Edited, Tue May 2 11:54:55 2006 by NephthysWanderer

Citizens who have no respect for the law and break it are arrested. Why should it be different for illegal immigrants?

So tax evasion and stealing social security numbers is not a crime to you?

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I see reforming the system and making it work better, but becoming a citizen of our nation should be no walk in the park. It should be hard and it should require more than you walking in and saying, "I'm here make me legal". Also I like the trial basis thing. We give you 3 years to asimilate or get the fu[/Aliceblue]ck out.

If we find that you have come here and have not attempted to get the process rolling in all the years you've been here, I see that as a free ride back to which ever country you are from. If you are found a second time in our country with once again not going through the process.. I say we feed you to the fish. If you are atleast trying to follow the law and are going through the process more power to you and welcome to America.

We don't care how things were done in your country. This is America. We shouldnt have to print our laws in your language. We shouldnt have to change our anthem to YOUR language. We shouldnt have to have someone who speaks your language around just for your convenience. You want to live here and be Amerian, LEARN TO FU[Aliceblue]CKING SPEAK ENGLISH. You want to do it with an accent? I dont care but for the love of Bob make the effort.

Be like Moe and grow to expect it. Then you won't waste bile you could spend on hating folks who use up your wipes!

I don't think it ever could be, although I do agree that many social services such as free education, healthcare and language assistance(much like welfare) that are intended as a stepping-stool end up being expected and abused.
So does the government, and even if you have started the process, they'll deport you and ask you to do it long-distance.


I don't think the first two have ever been done, and the last is actually federal law. It says that you won't deny services provided with federal funds to people based on race, gender, or national origin, and language falls under that last part.

I actually agree, if only because many things are denied to those who don't have the means to speak up for them.

That what I think is wrong. I think we should offer more help to the ones who are trying to become citizens the right way. If you are following procedure then you should be automatically granted leniancy and given an extention. If you have never seen the office or filled out paper work to either work here legally or become some kind of resident/citizen, then you should be on the first bus back to where ever you came.

Edited, Tue May 2 13:21:40 2006 by Katie