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#1 Apr 10 2006 at 1:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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The folks at CNN wrote:
Leftist candidate Ollanta Humala, who was taunted by residents of his district when he voted Sunday, was barely ahead in Peru's presidential election, and a runoff election became inevitable when none of the top candidates received a majority of the vote.

A candidate needed at least 50 percent to claim victory. The runoff election is to be held within a month after final results are tallied.

With 67.3 percent of the ballots counted, Humala, a 43-year-old former army officer, had 28.7 percent of the vote in a field of 20 candidates Monday, according to the national elections office.

Conservative Lourdes Flores, 46, had 25.8 percent of the vote, and Alan Garcia, 55, a socialist who led Peru from 1985 to 1990, had 25.1 percent.
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Like Chavez, Humala is a former army colonel who led a failed military coup in 2000. The candidate has said he would forge closer ties with Venezuela, if elected.
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Humala is the latest in a line of self-styled champions of the poor who have come to power recently in South America. He opposes trade globalization and has called for a review of Peru's contracts with overseas companies, particularly the multinational mining companies digging for Peru's natural resources.

He has campaigned on promises to legalize coca leaves, the raw material used to make cocaine, and to forge close ties with Chavez.

And like President Evo Morales in neighboring Bolivia, Humala says he would put the interests of Peru's mostly poor Andean indians first.

Flores is a commercial attorney and former congresswoman vying to become the first woman president in the nation's history. In a recent interview with CNN, she said Humala's message is dangerous.

"Peru can't go down into the abyss with Humala," said Flores, who favors close ties with the United States.

Under current President Alejandro Toledo, another leftist, Peru's economy showed healthy growth and exports boomed. But the benefits never trickled down to the poor: Government statistics show that about two-thirds of the 28 million Peruvians still live in poverty.

There were 16.5 million Peruvians eligible to vote. Another 400,000 Peruvians voted from outside the country. Votes cast in some remote areas of the country where there have been mudslides could take longer to collect, officials said.
I trimmed out some bits about Humala getting shoes thrown at him.

I won't pretend to know enough about South America to form an opinion on what effect another strong Leftist leader, particularly one allied with Chavez, would have on the region or the United States. Humala's anti-international commerce stance would seem to blow the Free Trade Agreement out of the water as far as Peru is concerned.

Currently, Peru runs a surplus export of about $3 billion ($16 vs $13) but the United States is a major portion of that. The eventual completion of the Camisea Natural Gas Project may shift the tide there if Peru can start exporting its rather abundant natural gas reserves.
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#2 Apr 10 2006 at 6:02 PM Rating: Good
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I trimmed out some bits about Humala getting shoes thrown at him.


Why would you cut that part out? Smiley: tongue
#3 Apr 10 2006 at 7:20 PM Rating: Good
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Humala says he would put the interests of Peru's mostly poor Andean indians first.


FOR SHAME!!!

Imagine an elected leader choosing to not lick the asses of Rich foreigners so that he can pump thier money into his own invested capitol gains!! INDIANS!? He's going to try to help the poor dirty Indians!? Waht does he expect? That they will suddenly find a life of promise and future on their own land and perhaps attempt to participate in a culture that they have long sinse been alienated from and perhaps begin a process of helping to integrate thier values into a modern existance besides the common working man of their country!? PSSSSSSHHHH!!!!! Legaizing Cocoa leaves? A sacred indian hippy plant that the Rich foreigners make SO MUCH money off of!?! BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT's ILEGAL!!? HUH!!? Doesn't he know that their TOTALLY UNCORRUPT police force will take care of everything and make sure everything goes whre it should and into the right pockets? WHO IS THIS FLAKE!? Why doesn't he just put on some war-paint and start throwing spears at the Cruise Ships passing by if he wishes to actually THINK FOR HIS POOR people LIKE A NUT rather than play King of the Hill with the rest of his Upper-class neighbors. Why doesn't he just thumb his nose at Civilization itself and start renovated all those ruins over there!? Because helping the poor isn't going to help to gradually increase the progress and bounty and moral values of his people are anything!! There called RESERVATIONS! Use Them!

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I will Smiley: grin
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#4 Apr 10 2006 at 7:53 PM Rating: Good
Kel, you spelled illegal wrong. Smiley: laugh
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Shakespeare's got nothing on me..

THAT's a motherfu[Aquamarine][/Aquamarine]cker that needed to use a spell-checker!
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#6 Apr 10 2006 at 7:59 PM Rating: Good
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Never fails to amaze me that people will vote for folks like Garcia. Then again, the Marion Barry thing was also a shock.
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Then again, the Marion Barry thing was also a shock.


Was it the crack-smoking, the coke-snorting, the hookers, or the video tape of it all?


or wait... was it the fact that he STILL got elected? AND was the mayor of our nations capitol?


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#8 Apr 10 2006 at 8:04 PM Rating: Good
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He has campaigned on promises to legalize coca leaves, the raw material used to make cocaine, and to forge close ties with Chavez.


Now that's just scary.
#9 Apr 10 2006 at 8:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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This thread would have been wayyyy cooler if it was "In accordance with AtomicFlea's prophecy"
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He has campaigned on promises to legalize coca leaves, the raw material used to make cocaine, and to forge close ties with Chavez.


Now that's just scary.
Bolivia has the same law. It's not that far fromt he whole medicinal marijuana thing. Coca leaf tea has been an indigenous remedy for centuries, and chewing the leaves gives a caffeine-like buzz that helps with the high altitudes in the Andes. It's not a harmful drug till you mix all the chemicals in it, and shouldn't be penalized in its base form.
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Not that I honestly believe any of you illiterate turds will read it, but an interesting little editorial about the Leftist swing of S. America, how the U.S. is helping it and what it means.

Jack Fuller wrote:
t is not every day that South American politics penetrates the Chicago City Council chambers. Aldermen, like most people in the United States, barely know what is down there, let alone who is in charge.

The other day Ald. Edward Burke (14th) raised the possibility that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez might be planning to influence U.S. elections through a company that makes voting machines. Burke had a point about Chavez wanting to swing elections; he simply had the wrong geography.

The sneeringly anti-American Venezuelan president, who is squeezing the opposition and the news media at home, is also relentlessly extending his reach in countries of the northern Andes. And the United States, despite its concern about him, is helping.

In Peru, Chavez backed presidential candidate Ollanta Humala (like himself a leader of a failed military coup and a strident populist). Humala leads the returns from Sunday's election and will be the front-runner in a runoff.

In Bolivia, Chavez's tool is President Evo Morales. Like Humala, Morales gained his political edge by appealing to the pride and resentment of the indigenous people, descendents of the Incas, who for so long have been treated not much more generously by the leaders of the country than their ancestors were by the Spanish conquistadors.

A movement of indigenous people in Ecuador has been disrupting transportation by blocking roads (a technique used by Morales in the run-up to his election) in an effort to keep the country's lame-duck president from signing a free-trade agreement with the U.S. It will be a miracle if someone like Morales and Humala, backed by Chavez, does not come to the fore in the next Ecuadorian election.
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Meanwhile, as in Cuba, the U.S. has made it easier for the very forces it most resists. The invasion of Iraq and the toppling of Saddam Hussein touches painful chords of memory in Latin America, with its long history of U.S. intervention. Chavez has played these like a virtuoso, warning that the U.S. government is out to overthrow or assassinate him, that his opposition consists of clandestine U.S. agents, and so forth. Idiocy like evangelist and Republican activist Pat Robertson's call for Chavez's violent removal is a lovely gift to the Venezuelan.

The single-minded U.S. drive to eradicate coca production (the plant from which cocaine is extracted) also helps Chavez in his drive to realize his dream of consolidating power among his neighbors. This most clearly showed itself in Bolivia, where Morales, a former coca grower himself, attacked United States anti-coca policy (a position from which he has more recently been leaning away).
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Eradication has been a costly failure. It has not and cannot cure addiction. It makes the illegal trade more lucrative and corrupting. And it infuriates many people, who feel the United States is dealing with its own inability to control its people's habit by intervening in their countries. This resentment connects again with the intervention in Iraq, the United States' history in Latin America, and Chavez's sinister suggestions of U.S. plots.
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I hope they are wrong about the consequences. But I am sure that until political, economic and cultural leaders in South America begin to rectify the virulent racism and the enormous disparities of power and well-being within their own borders, the Chavezes, the Moraleses and the Humalas will always be there, just waiting for their moment.
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#12 Apr 11 2006 at 9:54 AM Rating: Good
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Lawl. In other words, Humala promises to be the political ingrate candidate who attempts to cozy up to the "cool" kids in school, ie Chavez.

"I promise-o to be-o like-o the cool kids in South America-o. I will-o taunt-o the Norte Americanos and make-o you think-o that I embody-o the machismo of the Latino spirit-o."

Big deal. Just another in a long line of generalmissimos in another Banana Republic.

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#13 Apr 11 2006 at 9:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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I stopped reading at "lawl".
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Last week ambassador William Brownfield's convoy was pelted with eggs, onions and tomatoes and chased by supporters of the president.

The US accused officials in the capital Caracas of condoning the attack, but the mayor's office has denied this.

Mr Chavez told Mr Brownfield to "start packing" before he "kicks him out".




Smiley: lol

sounds like they're just yucking it up
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#15 Apr 11 2006 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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That's because, Jophiel, you are the Asylum equivilent of my observations of Humala. Attempting to curry favor with our board's resident Peruvian just diminishes you, my man. It's an ugly sight. My advice? Be the bland Chicagoan you are and leave the colorful personality to those others who have been born with it.

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#16 Apr 11 2006 at 10:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Totem wrote:
TBe the bland Chicagoan you are and leave the colorful personality to those others who have been born with it.
If sounding like Proof is "colorful personality", sign me up for an extra case of bland.
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#17 Apr 11 2006 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good
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Priceless.
Thanks for the laughs. If equating me with Proof all you got, you've made my case for me, Jo. Look, it's not like I have any antipathy or antagonism against you, nor would I spit on you if I saw you on the street. I wouldn't offend my DNA like that, dude.

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#18 Apr 11 2006 at 10:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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*Shrug* He's the only one I've known to use "Lawls" outside of people in WoW guild chat making fun of Proof for using "Lawls". Maybe you and your buddies say "Lawls" to each other all the time.

I'm not trying to build a case, I'm saying you sound like Proof.

Edit: To be fair, it occurs to me that I've also seen a couple OoT posters use it so maybe your "colorful personality" is "Forum=28 reject".

Edited, Tue Apr 11 12:26:33 2006 by Jophiel
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