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#27 Mar 29 2006 at 4:08 PM Rating: Decent
So with that out there. Who will run for president in '08? From them who would you vote for and why?
#28 Mar 29 2006 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Who knows, think you will see a clearer picture after upcoming elections.


Hilary, Jeb Bush, Frist, Pataki, Allen, Romney,


If you are lucky you will get McCain. If you had been really lucky and owned a time machine you could have stopped Bush greaser Karl Rove from ruining McCains political run in the primaries in 2000 via slander.
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#29 Mar 29 2006 at 4:19 PM Rating: Decent
I'm thinking anyone with the name Bush I'm going to avoid.
#30 Mar 29 2006 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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bodhisattva wrote:
Who knows, think you will see a clearer picture after upcoming elections.


Hilary, Jeb Bush, Frist, Pataki, Allen, Romney,


If you are lucky you will get McCain. If you had been really lucky and owned a time machine you could have stopped Bush greaser Karl Rove from ruining McCains political run in the primaries in 2000 via slander.

I'm angling for McCain if anything, just because he tries so hard not to appear like the total buffoon he is. I would that Bush had put out that kind of effort.
#31 Mar 29 2006 at 4:23 PM Rating: Decent
Mike Huckabee is rumored to be planning a presidential run.
#32 Mar 29 2006 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Jeb Bush is probably not going to happen.


The whole failure when it came to Schiavo as well as a number of other things that have happened as well as his whole being the brother of an increasing unpopular president kind of knock him out of the running and it seems for the most part he doesnt want to take that step.
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#33 Mar 29 2006 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
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I do not care what the sex of our next president is, as long as "it" is not Hillary.
#34 Mar 29 2006 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm predicting Jeb Bush vs. Roger Clinton in 2012.
#35 Mar 29 2006 at 4:40 PM Rating: Decent
Anyone know of any good websites to research these canidates? I'd like to try to make an informed decision when I vote in 2008.
#36 Mar 29 2006 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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I think it's too early yet. The list right now is rather daunting.


Side note-I heart Obama. I hope he runs someday.
#37 Mar 29 2006 at 4:45 PM Rating: Decent
See I've heard of Obama, but I dont really know much about him.
#38 Mar 29 2006 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Side note-I heart Obama. I hope he runs someday.



Then you have turds like Tot3m who get there **** in a knot over Obama because he criticizes the whole 'bridge to nowhere' in Alaska and didnt name a democratic pet project while bringing up the issue. OMG so partisan!!
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#39 Mar 29 2006 at 4:47 PM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Katie wrote:
See I've heard of Obama, but I dont really know much about him.

Check him out. He's the current junior senator from Illinois.
#40 Mar 29 2006 at 4:55 PM Rating: Decent
The One and Only Katie wrote:
Teasing sonofawho[Antiquewhite][/Antiquewhite]reson! /rant off


On a more sensible topic do you think Hillary Clinton will ever be president? What about Condoleeza Rice? Are we ready for a woman president? I ask this because I'm honestly curious other peoples views.

What about a non-native American President?


I'd be interested to see how Hilary would act as a president, if only for the phycological experiment. However, my morbid curiousity would, under no circumstance, seduce me into damning the nation so harshly in an election.

Condoleeze Rice? No, I don't see her as a president so much as a justice. It'd be interesting to see her in the Sumpreme Court, though I doubt that'd ever happen.

As a guy going through his college years, and many college girls, I can assure you I'd be rather uneasy with a female president. While I realize people often mature as they grow older, the females, at least in college, are so erratic and prone to fits of hormonal rage that I'd not trust them with anything more than their thin, feeble bodies.

While I am in favor of unbiased commentary, I'll stand by the sentiment that many, as in disproportionally, females are unstable. Biases are applicable when scientifically proven; female instability has been proven so many times that its considered scientific fact, justified with hormones.

This said, generalizations have exceptions, such as Condoleeze Rice. I'm not sure if I'd vote for her on grounds of her interest in the subject area, but this may well change. She seems to have proven herself a stable and reliable human being, even if, still, a human being. Should she, or another like her, make a case for presidency, I'd be all ears.

I want a strong but senisble and emotionally dettached leadership.
#41 Mar 29 2006 at 4:59 PM Rating: Good
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ReofblMobile wrote:

I want a strong but senisble and emotionally dettached leadership.

Boy, do I have a leader for you.
#42 Mar 29 2006 at 5:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ignoring the issues that the general public falls asleep during anyway...

Obama has the advantages of being charismatic, having a lot of good press and media rhythm, a bona fide hardscrabble story of growing up the son of poor immigrants to become a Harvard educated senator and is an articulate speaker. He also doesn't have any skeletons that have popped out of his closet to discredit him.

If he ran, I'm sure the opposition argument would be his lack of experience, his youth and a bunch of claims of rampant liberalness where Obama would demand we all have gay sex with long-haired hippies while eating stem cells gained from late term abortions. Oh, and the whole "black" thing would work against him in some circles though you wouldn't hear it overtly.

Edited, Wed Mar 29 17:22:02 2006 by Jophiel
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#43 Mar 29 2006 at 5:19 PM Rating: Good
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As to a woman president, I've never been opposed to it. However, I've recently realized that any woman in position to be a potential candidate is typically someone I can't stand. Perhaps for a woman to have the dedication and perserverance (not to mention intelligence)to run, they have to be a bit of a ****. It's a vicious cycle I tell ya.

As to a non-native running, ***** that.
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#44 Mar 29 2006 at 5:22 PM Rating: Decent
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ReofblMobile wrote:

As a guy going through his college years, and many college girls, I can assure you I'd be rather uneasy with a female president. While I realize people often mature as they grow older, the females, at least in college, are so erratic and prone to fits of hormonal rage that I'd not trust them with anything more than their thin, feeble bodies.

I want a strong but senisble and emotionally dettached leadership.


Wow, you're a feminist's wet dream and a fantastic speller to boot!

Ok skippy, how about former New Jersey Gov. James McGreevey, I hear he could use a job, and he sure seems strong, sensible and emotionally detached, just ask his wife!
#45 Mar 29 2006 at 5:23 PM Rating: Decent
Jophiel wrote:
though you wouldn't hear it overtly.


I'm not so sure.
#46 Mar 29 2006 at 5:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
though you wouldn't hear it overtly.
I'm not so sure.
Well, you wouldn't hear it overtly from most groups looking to retain large-scale credibility.

And I'm not even taking a subtle jab at the Pubbies here -- if it was Condi Rice, Colin Powell or whoever, you'd still have people voting against them because of their race regardless of political affiliation.
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#47 Mar 29 2006 at 5:30 PM Rating: Decent
Why didnt Collin Powell run?
#48 Mar 29 2006 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
Jophiel wrote:
Well, you wouldn't hear it overtly from most groups looking to retain large-scale credibility.

And I'm not even taking a subtle jab at the Pubbies here -- if it was Condi Rice, Colin Powell or whoever, you'd still have people voting against them because of their race regardless of political affiliation.


I was thinking more of individuals than large scale groups. I know several people (some in my own family) who would not vote for a black person and they'd make it clear that race was the reason why.
#49 Mar 29 2006 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Why didnt Collin Powell run?


As Joph said; enough would vote against him on the basis of race alone that the best he could hope for is a failed bid. Despite his time in the military and his extensive service to his country I see no realistic way for him to carry the nomination from the party in which he is affiliated.

It served his purposes better to become a member of Bush's cabinet, albeit one with a limited duration.
#50 Mar 29 2006 at 5:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Plus his schism with the current Bush administration.
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#51 Mar 29 2006 at 5:46 PM Rating: Good
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That will make running in 2008 difficult, at a minimum. I think Powell may be finished with politics. There isn't a lot left for him to do.
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