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#1 Mar 29 2006 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
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On a more sensible topic do you think Hillary Clinton will ever be president? What about Condoleeza Rice? Are we ready for a woman president? I ask this because I'm honestly curious other peoples views.

What about a non-native American President?
#2 Mar 29 2006 at 3:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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The One and Only Katie wrote:
On a more sensible topic do you think Hillary Clinton will ever be president? What about Condoleeza Rice? Are we ready for a woman president? I ask this because I'm honestly curious other peoples views.

What about a non-native American President?


What's so different about a woman president, really? Condy's more manly than Bush is.

And, I don't think we've ever had a Native American president...
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#3 Mar 29 2006 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
Sorry, by non-native I meant not born an american citizen.
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I think the ignorant **** was saying "non native american' in relation to someone born outside of the united states such as Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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#5 Mar 29 2006 at 3:29 PM Rating: Good
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I think the ignorant **** was saying "non native american' in relation to someone born outside of the united states such as Arnold Schwarzenegger.

First one that came to mind when I read that. I think that he wants to run, but there would have to be legislation passed in order to allow it and I'd be surprised if we were "there" yet. Same for a woman President. Hillary may not be The One, since she is quite polarizing even in a lesser position.
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It's only to bad that the ignorant **** fails to realize that a non-american born citizen can not become President.
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you HAVE to have been born here to be President.

It's the rules. Smiley: schooled
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#8 Mar 29 2006 at 3:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Are we ready to amend the Constitution to allow Ahnold to run? I doubt it.

I think we're edging closer to accepting the idea of a woman as President, but I doubt we're quite there yet. Maybe in time for the end of the world in 2012.
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#9 Mar 29 2006 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
Hmm. I was talking to an old friend of mine who is not a natural born citizen. His parents moved here from Mexico when he was 2. We went to school together and I remember a conversation we had long ago about how he found it unfair he couldnt run for president but his younger sister could because she was born here. Went on to rant about how he could serve in the military but not run for president.

I think that in my lifetime we may see someone come to office who wasnt born American.
#10 Mar 29 2006 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
The writer of Demolition Man wrote:

Huxley: I’ve been an enthusiast of your escapades for quite some time now. I have, in fact, perused some newsreels from the Schwarzenegger Library, and that time you took that car...

Spartan: —Hold it. The Schwarzenegger Library?
Huxley: Yes. Schwarzenegger Presidential Library. wasn’t he an actor when you...

Spartan: —Stop. He was president?

Huxley: Yes. Even though he was not born in this country, his popularity at the time cased the 61st amendment, in which they said...
Spartan: —I don’t wanna know.



I think Orin Hatch was supporting a bill that would allow those born outside the US to become president. That was a few years ago and I don't know what ever happened with it.
#11 Mar 29 2006 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
No **** sherlock. The "ignorant ****" is trying to bring around the discussion of changing the law. Are we ready for it. Thanks for being ignorant fu[Antiquewhite][/Antiquewhite]cks who cant understand that.
#12 Mar 29 2006 at 3:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sorry, by non-native I meant not born an american citizen
Not short of a Constitutional amendment. Arnold's term in California hasn't exactly proven to be a steamroller of change and support so I don't imagine any changes coming soon to pave the way for him.

Hillary? I'm hoping she doesn't run in '08. Regardless of whether or not she is some ultra-liberal, she's polarizing enough that I'd rather see a more "moderate" candidate. If I felt she was supremely qualified I'd say to run her but I just don't see what the gain would be.
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#13 Mar 29 2006 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Hilary is too polarizing. Smash stated it 2 years ago and its still true. The lady has been doing her best to appear the moderate though.

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I'm sure what we would need to happen would be some aspiring candidate who was born elsewhere and moved here at a very early age (2 for example) to get that amendmant. Something that's borderline enough, and someone that seems 100% american, to make the law seem silly.

Not some dude with an Austrian accent who's barely chugging along as governator.
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#15 Mar 29 2006 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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We are such a backwards country.


why the fu[cyan][/cyan]ck does it really matter if our president is male or female?

We are like one of the last Western nations to have a stupid taboo on this.
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Hilary is too polarizing. Smash stated it 2 years ago and its still true. The lady has been doing her best to appear the moderate though.


She's polarizing enough that it would probably cause my father in law to have a heart attack / hang himself if she won.

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#17 Mar 29 2006 at 3:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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We are such a backwards country.

Why the fu[cyan][/cyan]ck does it really matter if our president is male or female?

We are like one of the last Western nations to have a stupid taboo on this.


Good ol' Boys Republic?
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#18 Mar 29 2006 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
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they should have just let the South go.... now it's like an oil stain.
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#19 Mar 29 2006 at 3:44 PM Rating: Decent
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The Democrats suffer from the same problem that the opposition parties in Canada suffered from all throughtout the 90's. They are to busy demonizing and attacking the other guy and not spending enough time to show how they would be a viable alternative.

Unless they are willing to sit down and address how they are preceived by the public and deal with certain issues they are never gonna get in unless the Republicans do something monumentally bad (like Liberals with Ad-scam scandal in Canada).
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Kelvyquayo wrote:
We are such a backwards country.

Why the fu[cyan][/cyan]ck does it really matter if our president is male or female?

We are like one of the last Western nations to have a stupid taboo on this.

Western? If you include all of Western culture, there is an overwhelming majority who have never had women in their country's elected leadership position. Some even balk at them inheriting it.



Edited, Wed Mar 29 15:51:34 2006 by Atomicflea
#21 Mar 29 2006 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
Hey now! Not all of us from the south think that backwards. Everyone has their hang ups. I honestly fear we are becoming more and more like the eastern countries we are fighting. So often lately I'm finding religion is dominating the direction of our country and it scares me. Maybe I'm finally growing up and paying more attention to the things going on around me, but where did the line between God and Government go?
#22 Mar 29 2006 at 3:51 PM Rating: Good
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Demonzing the South is pointless. It's the same sectarian mindset that narrows thinking and allows for snap judgements that limit people's ability to work together. I'm actually a bit hopeful. I think that for once, the nation as a whole is not too comfortable with the way things stand. I'm hoping some change comes out of it. I certainly intend to vote with that idea in mind.
#23 Mar 29 2006 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
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So often lately I'm finding religion is dominating the direction of our country and it scares me.


I'm from the south also (Arkansas) and I am 100% convinced that Kerry lost the last election on the gay marriage issue. I talked to so many people where the only issue they knew and/or cared about was gay marriage. The churches were campaigning hard against it, too.

I was actually discussing the election with some people and they called me a "sinner" because I wasn't strongly opposed to gay marriage. Every one of them voted for Bush strictly based on this issue.

Is this the type of thing you are seeing?

I have no problem with people voting based on whatever they feel is important, but I'm just amazed that this would be such a big issue to so many people.
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It's usually easier for people to make decisions based on one issue. I see immigration as the big deal for the upcoming Congressional and Presidential elections, and I know that many people will only focus on this one issue when it comes time to make a decision.
#25 Mar 29 2006 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
The gay marriage issue, the abortion issue, just alot of things. Where I live you move forward by belonging to a church and getting in the "good ol' boy" groups. I refuse to live by that.
#26 Mar 29 2006 at 4:05 PM Rating: Decent
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The religious right/christian fundamentalists were beat down and discredited during the 80's. Leaders of the evangelical church were in scandals, they lost legal fights on 'morality' a number of times. They were left on the side lines with a bloody nose for awhile.

However the game plan has changed as has their method of attack. A smarter more insidious fight is out there right now, just look at the re-emergence of the attack on Evolution but this time through Intelligent Design. Or to a lesser extent stopping moves to legalize Gay Marriage not by expounding it as an abomination against god but rather by making sure marriage was defined as between a man and a woman.


The religious right is back stronger and craftier than ever. I think people are just starting to pick up on that and how Bush has pandered to them for a support base.


Edit - Religious right is also getting pissed because when it comes down to it that GW is more on the side of Corporate America than the Almighty Church. Examples being port control with Dubai or his immigration policy for temporary visas both things religious right pubbies arent too fond of.

Edited, Wed Mar 29 16:12:48 2006 by bodhisattva
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