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#1 Jun 15 2004 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
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HOw about thos Mega-liths in Europe..


Supposedly they all folow the same unit of measurments and align with each other over 1000s of miles. Alot also align perfectly with certain stars and planets... And also other Pre-historic art follows the same pattern.... and this stuff is like over 10,000 years old.


Check out Skara Brae...
http://www.ancient-scotland.co.uk/skarabrae.html



ON that note, how about the fact that the Mayan knew how big the Plaet Earth was.
http://www.design51.freeserve.co.uk/astronomy_frame.html

The Minoans also knew this too..
http://www.phaistos.demon.co.uk/disc.html



OH and how about those African looking statue heads of the Olmecs:
http://www.micahwright.com/olmec.htm

Look at the Sphinxes face as well... see a similarity?
http://www.unmuseum.org/sphinx.htm

sorry, the Sphinx is older than 6000 years.... Rain erosion points to that..... The person who is credited with it's construction HIMSELF said that he merely uncovered it....

HOw about Names from South America and Egypt being similar:

Atlán, Autlán, Mazatlán, Cihuatlán, Cacatlán, Tecaltitlán, Tihuatlán, Atitlán, Zapotlán, Minititlán, Ocotlán, Miahuatlán, Tecaltitlán, Tepatitlán, Tihuatlán, Texiutlán, and the like.
Notice that the Nahuatl Tlán root of these place names is exactly like the Tlan in "Atlantis." Tollán is just another variety of "Tlan" and the Sanskrit word Talan. The N part of both the Mexican and Sanskrit equivalents means "People." In both what was once North India (Southern Russia, Chinese Turkestan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.) and Meso-America, the N suffix was often omitted, especially if the name of the place ended in Tal/Tala.
In Mexico we find places like Tlaxcala; Mixquiahuala; Sinaloa; Guatemala; Cosalá; Ayutla; Mitla; Tonalá; Chapala; etc. Similar endings, from Southern Russia down to Pakistan, are Nepal; Coushala; Sinhala; Bhopal; Tal; Shawl; Kabul; etc.

Besides the Tlán root, other Meso-America place names end in Tán and An: Yucatán; Juchitán; Champotón; Celestún; Comitán; Tehuantán; Rostán; Mexcaltitán; Tehuantán, etc. The regions from Southern Russia down to Pakistan. once part of India, also have place names ending in Tan and An: Afghanistan; Pakistan; Multan; Rajasthan; Tajikstan; Bhutan; Hindustan, plus many others. As in Mesoamerica, these Tan/An endings are stressed. Only in what were once ancient India and Mesoamerica are these Tan/An endings found so abundantly. There are many other similar linguistic correspondences between the two regions.



IT has been thoroughly proven that trans-Atlantic travel was possible in those days.

Also there is a culture in Polynesia I believe that can make the same kind of wicker boats thta were made in ancient Egypt.. and were capaple of ocean travel.

and much much more



Are all of these things coincidences? AN I jsut really having a mere case of selective perception?
Waht's going on here? How long can the scientific and archeological communities continue to ignore that groeing facts that history NEEDS to be re-written.

ok,now belittle me for being so guillable.



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#2 Jun 15 2004 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
No the truth of the fact is this, We are a civilization millons of years older than we think we our.We came here from Mars originaly, Went through several "Dark Ages" An lost most of are major techonligies, Man is just coming back around the wheel again to where we were one million yrs ago, on Mars. Or I could be day dreaming..... Just a mad day dream ya thats it.....
#3 Jun 15 2004 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
Either that or we are what happens when aliens sneeze into primordial ozze
#4 Jun 15 2004 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
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jademage wrote:
primordial ozze


That explains a lot...Smiley: lol



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#5 Jun 15 2004 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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I love their music! The Megaliths are one of my all-time favorite bands!

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#6 Jun 15 2004 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
I knew I miss spelled that just busy at work, an all. An thats Ozzie by the way.
#7 Jun 15 2004 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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#8 Jun 15 2004 at 12:17 PM Rating: Good
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jademage wrote:
I knew I miss spelled that just busy at work, an all. An thats Ozzie by the way.


Lol.
Actually, it's Ozzy.

Hilarious.


Edited, Tue Jun 15 13:20:27 2004 by Tare
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#9 Jun 15 2004 at 12:21 PM Rating: Excellent
Kelvygayo - stop trying so damn hard to be noticed. Just reply to threads with some thought and intellect. Be yourself and make tacosid jokes. You do those things and you'll get noticed eventually.
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Kelvygayo - stop trying so damn hard to be noticed. Just reply to threads with some thought and intellect. Be yourself and make tacosid jokes. You do those things and you'll get noticed eventually


Honestly though, whats wrong with starting a new thread?
#11 Jun 15 2004 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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Im doing more than a little bit of prehistory for university. And ive been doing it for the last couple of years. Ive read and done papers on pretty much all the things you have brought up and while when skimmed on the surface and not looked at in depth, they can look similar or that they all have a common root they do not.

There is overwhelming genetic evidence to point out that the "indigenous" people of north america came from mainland Asia. That they traveled across Beringia or the land bridge that was the Bering strait which was exposed at a couple different times during history. That there were a couple different migrations of peoples into the americas over the land bridge over a period of thousands of years.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_migr1.htm (the quickest artical i could find on it, also kind of interesting because it links partially with the egypt angle that Kelvy takes.)

Moving on;

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HOw about Names from South America and Egypt being similar:

To which i will reply with the following:

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Q: Are Amerindian languages descended from Hebrew, Ancient Egyptian, or Scandinavian languages?
A: No. The people who claim this are trying to prove that American Indians arrived in the Americas very recently (see Setting the Record Straight About Native People, below.) I have seen many websites claiming to "prove" that Amerindian languages are descended from Semitic or Germanic languages. 90% of these websites are deliberately lying, making up nonexistant "Algonquian" words that resemble words from Semitic languages. A quick glance at a dictionary of the Amerindian language will reveal these websites for what they are. The other 10% are using linguistically unsound methods--searching two languages for any two vocabulary words that begin with the same letter, essentially, and presenting them as evidence. Using this method, English can be "proved" to descend from Japanese--English "mistake" sounds a little like Japanese "machigai". In fact, if you randomly generate some vocabulary with a computer program, you will be able to find a few words with surface resemblance to any language you want. Real linguistic analysis requires dozens of vocabulary relationships which are regular and predictable, as well as similarities in phonology and syntax, to show that one language is related to another. No linguist has ever shown a relationship between any Amerindian language family and a Semitic or Germanic language.


Now about Olmec heads and the Sphinx. First the majority of scientist would say it was built around 2500 BC. There are a few people that use Rain erosion to try to come up with another name. Rain erosion is an extremely poor method of dating anything, now dont get me wrong im not a science snob, but it hasnt been proven, properly tested or tried, or widely used. There are to many factors to make it reliable or predictable. The factors would be as follows 1.Material that is being eroded, 2.position of object (is it way out in open or sheltered) 3.Precipation over time 4.Change in climate over time 5.with Sphinx you would also have to factor in sand causing erosion over time and the fact that for long periods of time the sphinx was covered by sand and not subject to rain erosion at all.

There are lots of examples of the Olmec giant heads most are "snarling" and wearing "warrior helmets" which dont really fit with picture of Sphinx.
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#12 Jun 15 2004 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Man.... I'd post this **** as anonymous.. I'm not trying to be noticed YOU Mr. Bean Look Lookalike..

I'm trying to point out some historical anomolies.. and see waht people think of them and here some good debates about it.... You think I have the opportunity to dabate about this **** anywhere else?? You think I'm doing this for attention???? Umm sure.. delusions of grandeur much??
maybe I should just take up residence in some stupid little goth wiccan forum.....If i Really wanted attention..

"OHHH the wierd guy posted more **** about freaky stuff.... he's the Cooolest..."


Pshhhhh

Somtimes this place has the intellcual capacity of a fu[b][/b]cking cicada...


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#13 Jun 15 2004 at 12:28 PM Rating: Excellent
Nothing. I'm just busting on him, is that illegal now as well? :)
#14 Jun 15 2004 at 12:37 PM Rating: Excellent
That's cool, I didn't know you where into dead chics too.
#15 Jun 15 2004 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
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No linguist has ever shown a relationship between any Amerindian language family and a Semitic or Germanic language.


But anthropolinguists have broken down Amerind and Asian languages to the point where the similarities are striking.

Just sayin'.

Eb
#16 Jun 15 2004 at 12:38 PM Rating: Excellent
BTW lighten up *****. If I wanted to put you down I'd have slammed your *** so hard your **** would be your nose.

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ok,now belittle me for being so guillable.


After all he did ask for it.

Edited, Tue Jun 15 13:45:11 2004 by Stok
#17 Jun 15 2004 at 12:51 PM Rating: Good
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Basically what i was getting at Kelvy is that you are using some very flimsy coincidence to make some big conclusions.

You neglect the huge but tedious amount of archaelogical work that has been done that quite clearly shows, not just with some far stretched leaps of faith but clearly over time with change in little things like pottery styles, art, trade and what was traded and where.

These theories arent just supported by saying 'hey i found object 1 at point A and i found something just like it at point Z thousands of miles away". They are supported by people saying "hey if found object 1 through 100 at point A and i see it also at points B,C,D etc and i also have a clear idea of how it moved from each and how it changed over time i can also back this up with a wealth of evidence that boggles the mind"

Olmec and Egyptian pottery style differ greatly, religion, trade, art etc. Also there is absolutely no evidence of Olmec culture popping up over night. It started slowly and built up into complex society over a period of hundreds and hundreds of years. Same with Minoan and Mayan.

Its like Christian Scientists trying to disprove the Theory of Evolution. They make assumptions and leaps of logic with no evidence to prove what they are saying. Thats what your pretty much doing, and as for archaelogical record of civilization rising it is much more solid and easy to prove than that of evolution.

Edited, Tue Jun 15 13:54:56 2004 by bhodisattva
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#18 Jun 15 2004 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
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But anthropolinguists have broken down Amerind and Asian languages to the point where the similarities are striking.

Just sayin'.

Eb


Ethnolinguists not anthropolinguists, there is no such thing as anthropolinguists just talking as an Anthropologist myself but i got what your talking about :P
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#19 Jun 15 2004 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
Corrected.

There is a field of study called "Anthropolinguistics" but no "Anthropolinguists".

Eb

I only studied it in college.


#20 Jun 15 2004 at 11:30 PM Rating: Decent
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the only reason the eveidence is flimsy, is because the peopolel rich enough to dig for it don't care, and the people like me who wonder about it, can't afford it.
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