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#52 Jun 05 2004 at 12:14 PM Rating: Excellent
Yeah, after reading the title I was hoping the post context would read: "In glorious three-way sex."

Oh well, one can only dream I guess.
#53 Jun 05 2004 at 3:45 PM Rating: Decent
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If that's what it means, why wait until "one day"?

Let the greco-roman in whitey tighties commence and please provide extensive video coverage!
#54 Jun 05 2004 at 11:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I have no idea why you would have expected me to back you up regarding Caddila, as I was never one of the people who were bothered by it. I seriously doubt Pat was either considering how vehemently he defended her. In fact I can only recall yourself and Vicaire ever mentioning that you thought it was inappropriate at all.

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I agree you did suck as a guild leader. But yet you kept your finger on the pulse of the guild long after you officially gave up the title. That was part of the problem.

Moreover if Druan loved you so much why did he deguild and join FoS?


That is the unfortunate effect of stepping down from guildleader and remaining in a guild. People still view you as influential and come to you with their concerns. Short of deguilding myself, which I had no desire to do (nor did anyone else but yourself suggest they wanted me to), there was absolutely nothing I could do about this.

I expect the this was at least part of the reason Pat and Dru left as well, though I will not presume to speak for them as you do so often. I've spoken to both of them privately as well, but as the conversations were, indeed, private, I prefer to leave them that way and allow the persons speak for themselves if they choose, thanks.

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I agree that Jinyx is a nice guy. Too bad you guys drove him to quit playing. Much like you did to Druan.


Jinyx still plays. Stop talking out of your ***, if that's even possible.

The rest of your spew is just a mix of your personal opinions and your sadly misinformed speculations about my personal life, and really isn't worth addressing.


#55 Jun 06 2004 at 12:05 AM Rating: Good
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Of course its not worth addressing...because you dont have an answer for any of it.

Ok...Jinyx still plays... He just chose to leave the guild. Personally I do not blame him. For the most part you and a few others had really turned it into a guild of total humps.

Nothing I have said about druan was particularly private. I have stated opinions that he pretty much shared on our site. On the other hand, it was Caddila, if you recall who posted the text of an entire private three way conversation that druan asked me to attend between the three of us.

Of course you defended that action as well. No suprise there though. You always had the feminine version of a hard on for caddila for reasons I can not fathom.

In short you were instrumental in destroying SoC. It no longer exists in part due to your crappy decisions. You can get pissy and say that I was a poison to the guild..but at the time in which I was an officer it was a thriving and healthy guild.

Now it does not exist.

It is my most horrid nightmare that you may one day obtain a clerical position with the University of Virginia athletic program. After getting in you could beg your way into a basketball watergirl job, then end up as Pete gillen's secretary. Perhaps parlay that into the athletic directors office and then as a job as the Assistant A.D. After dramatizing the department and indirectly causing the A.D. to step down you would assume that he wanted you to have his job. Then due to the fact that the rest of the office does not have the heart to tell you "no" you take over and make a mess of the works...firing the controversial yet successful head coach.

That would be followed by the bungling of the football team, and eventually you would just declare that there will be no more sports at UVa.

These are things that make me wake up shivering in the night...until of course i realize that your lack of intelligence and education make it a virtual impossibility.

Heres hoping you never go back to school.

Tacosid


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#56 Jun 06 2004 at 4:52 AM Rating: Decent
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I am going to explain this to you Tacosid by using an analogy that may not be perfect , but it will do to make my point.

Shards of Chaos was like a vehicle full of passengers that had broken down. None of the passengers knew how to fix it, and in fact it was unfixable. For a long time the passengers sat in the broken down vehicle getting more and more pissed off and frustrated, and arguing with each other as tempers got frayed.

You like to talk about the passengers and how they argued. And yes the arguing became intolerable, and many people were responsible for arguing. You were the most intolerable, so eventually you were booted out. For a while the broken guild was a more pleasant place to be, but crucially still broken down. Regardless of whether you had been booted or not, Shards would not have got much further than it did.

It is inevitable in this circumstance that eventually people are going to leave and get into a vehicle that works. This is what most people have done. The people who have quit the game are in the minority, most of us are still having fun.

I prefer to talk about why the guild was broken down and unfixable. The passengers and their petty little ***** fests are actually irrelvant to that. I will leave that to you, because after all you enjoyed and thrived in it.

There are two fundamental reasons for Shards of Chaos being broken:

1) Time Zone split - impossible to do the longer raids necessary End-game velious onwards, also impossible to raid more often to allow us to gear up more quickly
2) Mix of hardcore and super-casual players progressing at different rates individually. Raiding guilds work best when most members have similar levels, AA and equipment. This leads to two problems, cliques form around who can group with who, and raids success becomes very reliant on the 4 or 5 best equipped, levelled and AAed people being there - which makes these people too important to the guild.

These two factors led to slow progress, high attrition and cliques which in themselves created drama and were self-perpetuating.

There were other factors that were a problem also, but were potentially fixable:

3) Lack of a solid tank that played regularly - stopped us taking on difficult challenges - knights don't cut it, especially poorly equipped ones like we had
4) Very poor recruiting strategy. Sitting in PoK sending tells to random unguilded people, and handing out guild tags so easily, meant poor recruit quality on average, who also didn't have much respect for the guild - the best way to recruit is to get people to come to you.

A combination of the above factors was the cause of much of the drama. You go carry on talking about the drama Taco. Your extensive knowledge of the people involved, and the babyish behaviour brings you no closer to having any idea how to run a guild though. FoS mark II was always going to completely fail. Despite the clean sheet you had to mold it into something feasible.

Do I think I could now form a guild and do a better job than I did? Definitely. The guild would be modelled on Forgotten Nemesis though. Not Shards of Chaos.
#57 Jun 06 2004 at 8:46 AM Rating: Good
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The analogy is closer to this.

The SoC crowd was cruising along in a car that obviously had problems. There were several so-called "qualified" mechanics that were attempting to work on the car.

The first was Valkyrie. Val the mechanic had no clue how to work on the car, yet demanded to have final say in whatever was going to be done. She was often presented with the exact problem to the car...which was basically just one bad tank of gas which had very recently been put in the tank. Despite knowing the EXACT problem, Val tried fixing other, completely functional parts of the SoC vehicle. In the process she made the car much less efficient than it already was.

Caddila was the mechanic that wanted to switch a perfectly fine normal car and make it run on diesel fuel instead. She did everything she could to change the very fabric of how the car ran and Val and the others thought her idea was peachy.

Patrician became the head mechanic and while he was strong at making decisions on how the car had ran, he thought diesel fuel could power the vehicle and went and fired the best mechanic that had worked on the car other than perhaps Smash and definately Druan.

Tacosid was the mechanic that new that the car just had a single bad tank of gas. He attempted to show this to the other passengers multiple times. He knew the problem, pointed at it, showed how to fix it. Moreover each time people inevitably got sick of how the SoC vehicle ran, Tacosid was the guy who went out and convinced people that the SoC car was still indeed heading in the right direction. Tacosid had been working on the car longer than any of the other mechanics, but when it became evident that he would not be happy until the actual problem was fixed, allowing the car to run smoothly...he was fired. Tacosid went and started another car who ran on Spite instead of gas. It went on fine for months.

Eventually the FoS car ran out of spite and Tacosid turned the auto repair over to Lamprey. Lamprey did not know how to work on cars and did not care to learn. The FoS vehicle was put in the scrap yard only about 4 months before the SoC version.

This is closer to the truth...though your analogy pat was not entirely inaccurate.

Tacosid

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#58 Jun 06 2004 at 10:13 AM Rating: Decent
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This thread has done nothing more than re-enforce my opinion that Tacosid is a whiney *****.

#59 Jun 06 2004 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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What in the hell have you ever added to this forum Tarv?

I have seen you be the yes man for Moebius, and now you are stooge for the SoC people. If you are not careful your anti-taco hard on is going to work against you.

Its almost as if, in your desperation to be noticed, you are hoping to garner some notoriety by always taking the side of the team that is going against my opinions.

You know what? Its not working...no one cares or celebrates when Tarv logs on to agree with their opinion. You are one of the countless posters that have appeared on this forum, completely devoid of personality whose one grand claim to fame is that he often gets to agree with the people who actually have a recognizable persona here.

Good work, keep it up.

Tacosid
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#60 Jun 06 2004 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
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I would consider your argument if some of the people you question were not in another guild that is very successful. Unlike, for example, you.

But no, you are more stupid and self-absorbed than I thought.
#61 Jun 06 2004 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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Anybody else's mind in the gutter when they read the title of this thread?

It did briefly occur to me that, if that came to pass, I'd be sleeping with 1/3 of this board.
#62 Jun 06 2004 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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I have seen you be the yes man for Moebius,

Just to clear that up, I have never considered anything Tarv has posted to be in any way shape or form obsequious. He and I simply correct each other on our opposing Vie en Rosé. For instance, he doesn't know what football really is and I don't understand Cricket.

In direct contrast to your interaction with, well, damn near everyone else here.
#63 Jun 06 2004 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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i thought tarv was a chick. i always pictured as an angry ****.
#64 Jun 06 2004 at 1:53 PM Rating: Decent
I think a better ananlogy would be that you guys once had this crappy monk who stirred up a bunch of crap and left, cause its all my fault.

Oh wait you had this um car and it was going fine and um it got broken like and I farted while sitting in and like everyone got pissed cause of the stink and that is why it broke.

So see it really is my fault.
#65 Jun 06 2004 at 2:34 PM Rating: Decent
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i thought tarv was a chick. i always pictured as an angry ****.
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#66 Jun 06 2004 at 5:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't address your accusations about my personal life because frankly my personal life is none of your ******* business.

However Mike and I do derive a great deal of personal amusement from your speculations, so please feel free to continue.
#67 Jun 06 2004 at 6:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hey. EQ2's comin soon!!

Hmm...



If you're pondering what I'm pondering your evil ******* rating just went way, way up.
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#68 Jun 06 2004 at 6:54 PM Rating: Decent
Hmmmm....

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The Asylum: No holds barred forum for deep OOT discourse. Not for the faint of heart.


Now, if you take that one step further by defining OOT:

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Out Of Topic: A forum for the Allakhazam community to babble about non game related subjects.


So please shut the fu[/i]ck up about whatever failed guild yall are babbling about, or take it to the Main EQ Forum, because in the end, no one really gives a sh[i]it about it or who's fault it was. Just leave a goddamned dead horse alone.

#69 Jun 06 2004 at 8:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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FoS, and later SoC was formed out of origional OOT members. it was born here, and now that it has died, perhaps an epilogue here is not out of order. As a former member myself, I have my own thoughts about why it died and who was ultimatly responsable for killing it, which I do not plan on airing here.
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#70 Jun 06 2004 at 9:57 PM Rating: Good
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Well said Kaolian.

Just to translate that one for you, he told you to shut up PJ. Go back to the threads skeet starts if you are not happy reading this one.

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#71 Jun 06 2004 at 10:00 PM Rating: Good
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However Mike and I do derive a great deal of personal amusement from your speculations, so please feel free to continue.


I am surprised Mike has time to read the forum what with the hours you expect him to work.

Does he enjoy financing your right to play WoW beta? In retrospect I can understand why he came off as a short tempered jerk...what with his personal life and all.

By the way, I openly invite Mike to put his two cents worth in here.

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#72 Jun 06 2004 at 10:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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All of the SoC debate isn't really about a game anymore, it's more like debating history. If you want to come here and yell about how people in some old failed FFXI guild suxxored, it's not really game related either.





Not that I would really want you to.
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#73 Jun 06 2004 at 10:33 PM Rating: Decent
Dread Lord Kaolian wrote:
FoS, and later SoC was formed out of origional OOT members. it was born here, and now that it has died, perhaps an epilogue here is not out of order. As a former member myself, I have my own thoughts about why it died and who was ultimatly responsable for killing it, which I do not plan on airing here.


I am sorry Kao, I miss you most of all scarecrow, it was all really my fault <sigh>
#74 Jun 06 2004 at 11:09 PM Rating: Good
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I don't address your accusations about my personal life because frankly my personal life is none of your @#%^ing business.


Do you know how I know all this personal information by the way? Because you told it to me.

Tacosid
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#75 Jun 07 2004 at 12:41 AM Rating: Decent
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If you're pondering what I'm pondering your evil ******* rating just went way, way up.

I'm just saying I have a lot of spare time and all...
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#76 Jun 07 2004 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
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"It did briefly occur to me that, if that came to pass, I'd be sleeping with 1/3 of this board." --Flea

So in light of your post in another thread admitting you are one and the same as Skeeter, I would take this to mean you spend alot of time alone on Friday nights ************ furiously to internet ****?

Spank much?

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