Are you ******* kidding me?Follow

The main diffrence is that you'd have a good chance of beliving in the purple dog without any evidence.

Thats the rub for anyone not suckered into a religion.

and that (among countless other factors) is where what defines your ability to converse with any sort of worth and your ability to churn stomachs with fodder turns from a line in the sand to line of runway beacons.

What exactly makes what Smash said "stomach-churning fodder", Empyre? Isn't it true that if you have faith that purple dogs exist that you would be more apt to believe there was one kicking around? Why do you think it's called "blind faith"?

Smash's comment basically summed up the difference between the two camps.

but is not a fact an Absolute correct answer by definition? That is what I'm arguing, your statements that:



I'm not arguing my beliefs here...as much as I regret that expressing some of them prematurely on this board haunts me every day.



the two have very little to do with each other, but your stereotyping religious views with the expressed views of organized religion. why so many will classify anyone with religious views into the same category as organized religion boggles my mind. I understand its easy to do, but its a huge stereotype that cannot be justified beyond the fact that it's easy.

Sure, some of my beliefs are the same as some christian beliefs..some of them also are supported by buudhism, catholism, etc. I just happen to think of the christian image and definition of God to satisfy that human desire to put image to everything. It doesn't mean that I believe the same thing as every bible thumper you've ever been inconvenienced by.



Well then there are also some things we can see eye-to-eye on then.



Tell me you've never believed in something you've read and it turned out to be wrong, disproven, unproven, or tale? Are those stories true? I don't know..i'd like to believe they are. Outside of the bible they are bound in, they are letter and poems written by men and women throughout history.

Was the spiritual experience that viewed the things outlined in revelation an actual spiritual experience in which a man was lifted to heaven and showed the end of times or was it a hallucination due to the fact he was stranded on an island with no food or water? None of us will ever know unless it actually happens, but if it gives me faith in the idea that there is something better after this life, then i'm going to believe it...and maybe that makes me gullible by your definition, but in a world that is sometimes unbearable..its a much appreciated relief.



Now with this statement your going against much of what you said. We don't have proof he rose from the dead. We have record that he lived (the accuracy of these records can be disputed, but people deny the hollucaust ever happened as well) and personal accounts of the things he did.

We didn't have tape recorders and cameras back then...it would be difficult to make any record other than what we have. And anything that could be used to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt has been contaminated by study so much that its hopeless to think it could be useful. But to us that believe in it, we don't need proof. And to those like you who don't care to believe it, you don't have proof.

So why can't we both be satisfied without cutting at the other for what they believe? I think if we had that answer, the fighting in the middle east would stop.

Thanks Skeet, I get it now. I can always rely on you.

You know, he stole that from Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Can't even make his own material.

You can make one for me, though

wow ty for that! im so enlightened

The important part is that it's not a 50/50 thing thate one of us will be right. There's a 1 in 10 to the 100000000000000000th power chance that any sort of god exists. That's probably overly optimistic. The chances that YOUR PARTICULAR version exists are almost non existant. It's more likely that everyone who doesn't believe as you do will get hit by metors every day for a year.

If you like those kinds of odds, I have lots of bets you can spend your money on.

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This thread is the best, I am never letting it drop off of the page. Having a bad day? Just come here and bash the christians/or infidels depending on your take on things. Yay ignorance!


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Skeeter, you're funny!

lmao. its quite amusing how you come up with some of this crap. i'm sure you pulled those stats from a technical doc..prolly the same one that talks about 99.9% of statistics being made up on the spot.

here's a statistic for you. there is a 99 in 100 chance that the stuff that comes out of your mouth is exaggerated, desensitized or just plain bullsh[b][/b]it.

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