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#1 Mar 29 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/29/children.slain/index.html

In short.. a woman killed 2 of her sons and almost the third with a rock. Apparently God told her to.

Thought of a few questions..wanted to hear some opinions.

1.) Is this woman a terrorist? God told them to kill people too.

2.) Who does an insane atheist say told them to do it?

#2 Mar 29 2004 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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(1) No. A terrorist is someone trying to enact some form of social or political change by threatening violence upon people. This woman doesn't match the description at all.

(2) Beats me. Burl Ives?
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#3 Mar 29 2004 at 4:15 PM Rating: Good
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An insane atheist? Well, I would say insanity rests comfortably in the lap in the "sane" religious zealot of this case, wouldn't you? Atheists have a wider selections of entities to blame their actions on. Dogs, microwaves, radios...you name it!

Where you get the terrorist connection, I have no idea. She's a little too white, suburban mama to be a terrorist.

Edit: because spelling and grammar are important, people.







Edited, Mon Mar 29 16:16:47 2004 by Tare
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#4 Mar 29 2004 at 4:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Burl Ives?
Jophiel, you take that back!

Burl
#5 Mar 29 2004 at 4:29 PM Rating: Good
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So you're saying it's not the voice of Burl Ives in my head, telling me to kill?

That's a relief!
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#7 Mar 29 2004 at 8:15 PM Rating: Good
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when i was about 19 there was a lady in a trailer park on the other side of the tracks that tied her daughter to a bed and starved her to death. said she was demon possessed and the only way she could get them out was to starve her.

but all that seems like nothing compared to things nowadays. legally insane is a copout. everyone needs to be accountable for what they do...crazy or not. just my $0.02
#8 Mar 29 2004 at 8:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Things haven't changed so much over the course of itme, really.


"Why did you mass murder thousands of people?"
"God told us to"
#9 Mar 29 2004 at 9:07 PM Rating: Decent
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I saw a funny comic where some religious zealot was at the gates of Heaven with a sign that said "God is on our side!" Saint Peter looked him in the eyes and said "What part of 'thou shalt not kill' did you not understand?"

People do things in the name of God, especially kill, but the funny thing is that God specifically said NOT to do these things. Usually it's just a government using religion to control the people. In the case of this woman, she's sick and needs help, but she certainly shouldn't be free.
#10 Mar 29 2004 at 9:12 PM Rating: Decent
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when i was about 19 there was a lady in a trailer park on the other side of the tracks that tied her daughter to a bed and starved her to death. said she was demon possessed and the only way she could get them out was to starve her.

Why is that I'm not shocked to learn you grew up near a trailer park.
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#11 Mar 29 2004 at 9:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Part of the horror (or the beauty) of psychosis is that it nixes all thought of morality, so it's like telling a two-year old that they aren't being logical. The mind can't grasp it. Does this mean it's okay to kill if your pigeons don't all nest under the same roof? Of course not.
#12 Mar 29 2004 at 9:52 PM Rating: Decent
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2.) Who does an insane atheist say told them to do it?


The neighbor's German Shepherd comes to mind.


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but the funny thing is that God specifically said NOT to do these things


The problem with gods is that they are usually 'do as I say, not as I do' kinds of folks that routinely slaughter anyone that displeases them. This makes it very easy for their followers to justify their own slaugterings.
#13 Mar 29 2004 at 10:00 PM Rating: Good
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Why is that I'm not shocked to learn you grew up near a trailer park.


where did i say near ****? or don't you understand the saying "the other side of the tracks"? Smiley: oyvey
#14 Mar 29 2004 at 10:04 PM Rating: Decent
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or don't you understand the saying "the other side of the tracks"?

I understand it to mean "an area geographically near me which I make an effort to specify I'm not from".

Or did I get that wrong you **** smoking *** cowboy?
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#15 Mar 29 2004 at 10:29 PM Rating: Decent
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*** cowboy? Smiley: lol

Empyre, you woke up Smashy....uhhh ohhhh.

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#16 Mar 30 2004 at 2:40 AM Rating: Good
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I understand it to mean "an area geographically near me which I make an effort to specify I'm not from".

Or did I get that wrong you **** smoking *** cowboy?


well i guess your entitled to your own definition. its just too bad definitions between adult and childrens dictionaries don't always align the same. but those pictures sure are purty.

but **** smoking *** cowboy? you can do better than that.

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Empyre, you woke up Smashy....uhhh ohhhh.


i suppose i should have some sort of indimidating pressure bearing down on my whole world right now...that i should grab canned goods and head to the fallout shelter. but for some reason..i don't really care.

Edited, Tue Mar 30 02:40:09 2004 by Empyre
#17 Mar 30 2004 at 2:46 AM Rating: Decent
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but **** smoking *** cowboy? you can do better than that.

Sure I could have. Considering that I was responding to the genius whose rapier like wit gifted us all with "****" I didn't feel much effort was waranted in the retort. A measured response, that's my motto.
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#18 Mar 30 2004 at 2:50 AM Rating: Decent
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well i guess your entitled to your own definition. its just too bad definitions between adult and childrens dictionaries don't always align the same.

Really? What does the children's dictionary define it as then?
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#19 Mar 30 2004 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
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iono...you're (that's for you skeeter) the one who seems to put together gems that look like my high school physics papers. (those papers sucked by the way..most of it was copied and pasted from groliers the night before the paper was due)

then you follow it up with a nice hard-hitting insult so maybe people won't take too much time to realize what you wrote before. whatever works for ya sport.
#20 Mar 31 2004 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
It seems nowadays you can get away with anything. If you get into trouble simply plead insanity or better yet blame society for making them do it.

Personally, I think they need to lock this lady up and lose the key. People need to be held accountable for what they do.

#21 Mar 31 2004 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Being from the wrong side of the Tracks originates from living on the downwind side of the RR station. The soot, cinders and grime from the steam engines would land on the houses and clothing of folks living downwind. Consequently they and their clothes were dirty with a few smudge marks or burns.
It is also interesting to note that in some of the Kansas towns of the 1870's (ie Dodge and Hays City) the brothels and saloons were on one side of the track, with the stores, churhes and homes of the middle class on the other.

This little lesson has been brought to you by the staff of President St. Station. The oldest surviving big city RR staion in the US.
#22 Mar 31 2004 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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Great. Now I have "Holly, Jolly Christmas" stuck in my head.

Thanks Burl!

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#23 Mar 31 2004 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Great. Now I have "Holly, Jolly Christmas" stuck in my head.



That's enough to make ANYONE want to kill a few people.

Insanity by Burl Ives, sounds reasonable to meSmiley: smile
#24 Mar 31 2004 at 3:57 PM Rating: Default
Woman is not a terrorist. In all likelihood she is schizophrenic. A classic symptom of schizophrenia is hearing voices in your head, and sometimes even having imaginary people be a part of your life. For an idea of what this is like, I'd suggest seeing the Russell Crowe movie "A Beautiful Mind". For some people, the voices in their head is described as "aliens speaking to me". For someone with a somewhat misguided religious fervor, the voice of shizophrenia in their head is often described as "God speaking to me". Whether its God or Aliens that schizophrenics believe are speaking to them, it's a tragic but not unheard of occurrence for the "voice" to tell them to kill people. If the woman in this case is schizophrenic, she should be confined. But I believe the confinement should be in a mental health facility. This will probably start a whole new debate, so I'll stop that train of thought.

But to answer your questions more directly:

1) She's not a terrorist. More likely she's a schizophrenic. For terrorists, it is not actually god who tells them to kill people. It is a charismatic, manipulative leader who has decided to use religious faith as a means of political/mind control to coerce others into acts of violence in order to achieve the leaders own personal agenda. Yes, Osama Bin Laden is a clasic example of this.

2) As my initial answer says, it can be aliens who tell an insane atheist to do it. Could also be anything from imaginary friends, huge mega-corporations (i.e. Microsoft), or the government that "tells" people to do it. There is a wide variety of ways that schizophrenics have described the "voices" in their head.
#25 Mar 31 2004 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Smasharoo wrote:
Why is that I'm not shocked to learn you grew up near a trailer park.


I would imagine that most cities and towns in the US have a trailer park somewhere - not just the scuzzy, low-class sh[b][/b]ithole cliches, but some are almost decent middle-class - so that anyone, anywhere, is probably relatively close to a trailer park. Unless you're either in the completely barren wastelands of the Dakotas, or the middle of downtown LA.
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