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#1 Mar 24 2004 at 4:27 AM Rating: Decent
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&e=8&u=/nm/20040323/pl_nm/security_bush_charges_dc

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#2 Mar 24 2004 at 5:12 AM Rating: Default
[b][/b]ATTENTION: THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS ARE MY OPINION ONLY[u][/u]

I knew from the moment it was announced that Bush "won" the election, that we as a country would wind up in war. I mean, c'mon...it's in his blood. He wanted to pick up where daddy left off. Even I never would have guessed that Bush had the capacity to sink the US into the hole that he has.

IF all these reports are true, and everything is there to back them up...then...I truly cannont describe the feeling knowing that Bush LIED to start a war. Oh, I'm sure it's not the first time someone has done this, nor will it probably be the last...but is there no line this man won't cross? I mean, seriously...what IS this man's (tragically flawed) ideal of American Society?

If ever any president DESERVED to be assassinated, this man is a perfect candidate.
#3 Mar 24 2004 at 7:34 AM Rating: Good
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Then came the bombshell from former weapons inspector David Kay that the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction that Bush launched the war to find and destroy probably did not exist.
This was a "bombshell"?
#4 Mar 24 2004 at 8:56 AM Rating: Default
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This was a "bombshell"?


I suppose to some people it was. A lot of people in this country actually believed all the crap that Bush handed out about Iraq being a threat to this country. Some people still do.
#5 Mar 24 2004 at 9:00 AM Rating: Good
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And deathwysh ducks as the point flies straight over his head

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#6 Mar 24 2004 at 11:02 AM Rating: Good
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Psychojester,
It needs to be highlighted that what you wrote comes dangerously close to criminal. The discussion of the killing of a sitting president draws not only the attention of the authorities, but can open you up to charges as well. The Secret Service takes scoffingly flippant comments like those quite seriously.

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#7 Mar 24 2004 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
psycho,I cannot believe that you are really that stupid.
#8 Mar 24 2004 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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Making statements like that IS considered a federal offense.
#9 Mar 24 2004 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
Yeah, I am not sure it simply borders, Totem. I would be willing to bet that based on the post above Mr. Jester could have a secret service agent jump feet first up his *** and start tap dancing on his adam's apple.

Jester, regardless of how flip or "in jest" or ridiculous you intended the statement to be, rule number one when posessing a "right to free speech" is knowing when not to use it.
#10 Mar 24 2004 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
I would never wish death on the man. But I bet I could take him in a fist fight. Smiley: laugh
#11 Mar 24 2004 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
See? There are ways to threaten a man without actually coming out and advocating a bullet to the temple. :)
#12 Mar 24 2004 at 12:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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i think he was talking about a head-to-head deathmatch over a LAN..this is a gaming board ya know. (sorry...felt someone had to stick up for him and couldn't think of any other way to do it). Smiley: wink2
#13 Mar 24 2004 at 12:48 PM Rating: Default
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If ever any president DESERVED to be assassinated, this man is a perfect candidate.
I fail to see how this is a threat. in no way did he say i am or i will.
#14 Mar 24 2004 at 1:41 PM Rating: Good
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I fail to see how this is a threat. in no way did he say i am or i will.


That's the great thing about being a British citizen. You guys can probably get away with that.
#15 Mar 24 2004 at 1:54 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm guessing the criminality comes in the whole "incitement to" aspect of making such an observation. A court might interpret the public posting of such an opinion as a suggestion.
#16 Mar 24 2004 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi im an un-original ******* who has no opinion about anything because they havent taught me how to do that yet in remedial finger paints. I just hope if I do a search of "Bush" and "Iraq" on google and post the results I will be vaguley associated with something interesting.
#17 Mar 24 2004 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Yanari wrote:
A court might interpret the public posting of such an opinion as a suggestion.


Wow - who knew we had such power of suggestion over the other posters here?

Kaaaooo...make me some coooookieees....

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#18 Mar 24 2004 at 1:58 PM Rating: Good
Power of suggestion, inciting, something similar. I think that's the crux of how they'd try to handle that. Similarly to the way they go after clerics who incite cells to martyrdom.
#19 Mar 24 2004 at 4:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Mrens, I have made my opinion about Bush many times. I have even put my money where my mouth is. That $25 from Totem seems more like a sure thing every day.
#20 Mar 24 2004 at 10:33 PM Rating: Good
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/shrug

Old news really. Or I should say, old news being brought up again because there's no new news that works (and we've got to distract folks from the battering that Kerry's getting right now).

Several points:

1. Two people is not "all these people". Certainly, you can find two people somewhere, even in Washington (heck. Especially in Washington) who will have a view in opposition to the administration. If you don't think Kay and Clark have their own agendas, think again.

2. Contrary to popular belief, we did not go to war with Iraq soley based on a single statement Bush made in a single speach. I'm fairly sure that Congress did not vote to declare war based on a single page of paper with the words: "We know Iraq has WMDs" written on it. While I'm obviously not a member of congress, I would assume they were handed huge piles of papers and reports with evidence of a great many things about Iraq which when taken in total led to the decision to vote for war.

3. Whether Bush "ignored" the threat of terrorism prior to 9/11 or not will probably be debated for decades to come. And we'll probably never have a good answer. However, I will suggest that he's only being charged with "ignoring the threat of terrorism" because 9/11 happened during his term. That's 20/20 hindsight folks. Bush did no more or less "ignoring" of the threat of terrorism then any other president for the last 20+ years. However, one can argue substantially that he did not ignore terrorism *after* the events of 9/11. Cold comfort to those who died on that day, but I suppose the loss of lives in the Cole bombing, the embassy bombings, and the first WTC bombing just wasn't as much of a hardship, right? While it would be nice to be forward thinking, most of human history is the story of what people do in response to something, not in anticipation of it. I don't think you can crucify Bush on this issue IMO. It puts him in the same category as such "horrible" presidents as Abraham Lincoln and Franklin D. Roosevelt.



Dunno. If there was some new information in there, it might be more interesting. As it is, it really just looks like someone rehasing old claims because the timing is expedient.
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#21 Mar 25 2004 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I would never wish death on the man. But I bet I could take him in a fist fight.


I'm not so sure. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

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#22 Mar 25 2004 at 6:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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You know what's wierd? I woke up suddenly this morning in a cold sweat with an irrisistable urge to make some cookies and ship them to Canada.

Wierd huh?
#23 Mar 25 2004 at 9:28 AM Rating: Default
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Death would only turn Bush into a revered figure like Kennedy. What's really needed is to see him utterly disgraced. Ya know, stumbling around drunk with a coke straw stuck up his nose on national television, insisting that he can still run the country.

#24 Mar 25 2004 at 9:37 AM Rating: Default
Well - there have been countries&leaders where this didn't work either *lol*
#25 Mar 25 2004 at 2:04 PM Rating: Good
Whats funny is dumbass has yet to fix his post. If it were me, not that I would be even that brainless, I would have removed it. To leave it up on a public chat board where people like me, who hate dumbasses like him could tip off the athorities for a nice bit of cash, is just stupid...

/wanders off to find the number for the fbi office in town

Anyone know how much of a reward we get for the downfall of a would be presidential assassin???
#26 Mar 25 2004 at 2:53 PM Rating: Default
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you missed the point and total overflew the accusation a few hundred miles back katie. go ahead tho...i'm sure the authorities would thank you..

..for wasting their time. you could be a nice addition to an alarmist list, tho.
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