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#27 Feb 24 2004 at 3:55 PM Rating: Good
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The Brits may think of this as a civil war, but for us it was almost a century too early. :)


bah. minor detail.
#28 Feb 24 2004 at 4:01 PM Rating: Good
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Sometimes I think that people slam the white straight male population because it is almost the politically correct way to release agression from being treated unfairly.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Everyone does it, although it doesn't make it right. It took years to program, and it'll take years to de-program. The only thing that pisses me off is when people don't try, don't question what they're taught.

We're all in the situation we're in by the grace of God, or a quirk of luck, however you choose to see it. To think that it could not have been us, born male, white, female, gay, Arab, handicapped, etc. is egotistical beyond consideration.
#29 Feb 24 2004 at 4:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I think they should string the ****** up again (speaking of Jesus). I don't think his message got through to us the first time...

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#30 Feb 24 2004 at 4:47 PM Rating: Good
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Ummm, yeah? Jesus?

How's it going?

Oh, pretty good, can't complain.

Well, I'm calling to ask a favor actually.

If you wouldn't mind dying for our sins again, that would be super!

No, we really will try this time. Promise!

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#31 Feb 24 2004 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
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hahaha...I'm glad I'm not God. I probably couldn't keep myself from spilling a tall glass of water on us and starting over again. He must have a TON of patience looking down on us (and now living among us) now. I couldn't even fathom how much patience one would need..
#32 Feb 24 2004 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
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The Patriot?


yes thats the one, um if it's not civil war which war was it? genuine curiosity btw.

[quote = Moe]thought that was a mini-series on HBO by Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg.[/quote]

no that was a spielburg film with Tom Hanks called 'Saving Private Ryan' the Mini series was Mel Gibson and not even 1/10000000000th as good.
#33 Feb 24 2004 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
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The Patriot was about the Revolutionary War.

The HBO MIni-series was Band of Brothers and didn't have Mel Gibson in it. There was a movie called We Were Soldiers. It was a Vietnam era movie if I remember correctly (never actually saw it).

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#34 Feb 24 2004 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
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American Revolution...Civil War..eh, close enough.

EDIT: I own We Were Soliders .. AWESOME movie. I liked how they showed both sides of the war.

Edited, Tue Feb 24 17:12:18 2004 by Empyre
#35 Feb 24 2004 at 5:30 PM Rating: Good
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the Mini series was Mel Gibson

I'm pretty sure that the mini was sans-Mel Gibson, was produced by Tom Hanks, and was pretty damn incredible from a sentimental patriotic American point of view. :)
#36 Feb 24 2004 at 5:37 PM Rating: Decent
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EDIT: I own We Were Soliders .. AWESOME movie. I liked how they showed both sides of the war.


I liked how they were running around through bluegrass and birch trees.

In Vietnam.
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#37 Feb 24 2004 at 5:44 PM Rating: Good
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I liked how they were running around through bluegrass and birch trees.

In Vietnam.


I like to try and keep an open mind when watching a movie and avoid picking apart little details. Makes it a little more entertaining and comes close to surving the purpose the movie was intended to provide.

Of course on the second or third time around watching the movie with a bunch of people, sometimes its fun to play the MST3K approach.
#38 Feb 24 2004 at 5:50 PM Rating: Good
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Empyre-and notice every interview brings up the fact that the woman that plays Mary is jewish...


Well - Mary WAS Jewish! And so was Joseph and Jesus and almost everyone else in the area who wasn't Roman! I think people forget this a lot of the time...
#39 Feb 24 2004 at 5:54 PM Rating: Good
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I think it's more about the actress being Jewish, and being involved in this controversial film project, or according to some, a party to anti-semitism.



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#40 Feb 24 2004 at 6:01 PM Rating: Good
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I think it's more about the actress being Jewish, and being involved in this controversial film project, or according to some, a party to anti-semitism.

I know - I just think it simply makes SENSE to have someone who is Jewish play some of those key roles. Otherwise it's like those old "cowboy and indian" movies of the 30's and 40's that did not include any actual natives!

#41 Feb 24 2004 at 6:50 PM Rating: Good
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some people are a little less offended by things. guess its just up to the person. the whole native uproar at Outkast wearing feathers at the awards show...I don't really get it and native blood flows through my veins.
#42 Feb 24 2004 at 8:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I love Mel Gibson, as an actor, director and fellow native upstate New Yorker so I do want to see this movie. I'm not religious and I don't give a **** about the moral and social ramifications, but it looks like a good, violent adventure movie. I don't think Mel ever indicated that this was going to be a documentary, but a dramatization. Dramatic movies based on real events will have a factor of creative liberty involved. As stated before, Braveheart, The Patriot etc. are full of factual errors. Hollywood is not exactly the best place to look for history lessons.

Now, with all this said, I probably won't even see this movie until either my office mate rips a copy and watches it at work, or it is shown on cable. Hell, I haven't even seen Return of the King yet, and I'm a Tolkienite!
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#43 Feb 24 2004 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent
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why the big furor over the intimation that the jews were responsible for killing Christ?


You have the wrong idea. The movie will show how we all are responsible because of our sins, yes I understand you don't have the same beliefs as me. While it may have been Jews who killed Jesus, it was because of our actions that He died.
#44 Feb 24 2004 at 11:40 PM Rating: Decent
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it was because of our actions that He died.


I never understood this of the Christian belief. How can a god that is omnicient and all powerful feel the need to sacrifice his son to save mankind from himself <god>.
#45 Feb 25 2004 at 12:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I never understood this of the Christian belief. How can a god that is omnicient and all powerful feel the need to sacrifice his son to save mankind from himself <god>.


I don't quite know myself. Have you ever followed something that you don't know why it works, or how it works, or how it was even created, but yet you trust in it's authenticity?
#46 Feb 25 2004 at 1:11 AM Rating: Good
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Have you ever followed something that you don't know why it works, or how it works, or how it was even created, but yet you trust in it's authenticity?

Everytime I saw a cute woman in a bar. I trusted that she was indeed a woman and not some skeeter waiting to spring the twig and berries on me. I was usually drunk, but hey, Faith was good back then.
#47 Feb 25 2004 at 1:32 AM Rating: Good
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Missed you, Grady.

Glad to know you're still alive, assh*le.

The wizard told me you said hi. Sucks I keep missing you in game.



Edited, Wed Feb 25 01:32:25 2004 by Dalliance
#48 Feb 25 2004 at 9:14 AM Rating: Default
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Everytime I saw a cute woman in a bar


LOL...isn't that the truth.
#49 Feb 25 2004 at 10:42 AM Rating: Decent
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This movie is apparently going to get a big thumbs up from the super deity himself. This is copied from a news story today:
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We anticipate that there will be a tremendous outpouring of God's favor on this movie."

I got quite a chuckle out of this quote. Apparently the christian god is now in the business of giving movie reviews. Who knew?

I won't see this movie in the theater. It's just not piquing my interest. After all, this story has been done and done and done in the movies. Maybe if it's on TV one day I'll watch a few minutes of it while I wait for my Futurama rerun to come on.

And Rixtar, Mel Gibson is fairly well known for his religious enthusiasm.
#50 Feb 25 2004 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
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I never understood this of the Christian belief. How can a god that is omnicient and all powerful feel the need to sacrifice his son to save mankind from himself <god>.[/quote]

plot- Way back in the book of Genesis, when adam and eve first sinned. after they sinned they realized they were naked so they ran and hid when they heard God coming to them. of course God found them and it certainly wasn't acceptable to have them running around naked so long as they KNEW they were naked (kinda like how a kid dont know any better) so he killed some animals and used their skins to make clothing for them both. this is where the practice of sacrifice is initiated because sin is so horrible in God's sight that blood MUST be spilt to pay for (or cover) the transgression. and although the price is paid for their sin, it is an imperfect sacrifice so they must continually bring sacrifice to the Lord to keep themselves atoned for. (that's where Jesus comes in later) as you read further into the next four books of the old testament, God gives more specific instructions for sacrifice but this is the main gist of it. but eventually, God tells us that he is sick of seeing all of this blood being continuously spilt only to have to do it all over again because, lets face it. Man is an imperfect being. so thru the prophets God told of a perfect lamb that would have no flaw and the sacrifice of that lamb would atone for all sin so long as the person would accept this gift. Jesus was that perfect lamb.

ok, not sure if i got side tracked... now that i'm geared up for sunday i'll be happy to try to answer any other questions you or any one else might have. if i cant answer, i work for an awsome chaplain in the army. he prolly can.
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#51 Feb 25 2004 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
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oh yeah, meant to add... my email address is ibzamshamgar@yahoo.com
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