Passion of the Christ, your thoughtsFollow

Just curious about what others think about this movie. Will you go to see it? Has your opinion changed about Mel Gibson because of it or do you think this will hurt his career?

The movie comes out tomorrow and I am probably going to see it. It looks like an interesting movie from what I have heard. My opinion about Mel Gibson has changed slightly, I didn't think he was one to make a Christian movie but I am reserving much of my judgement until after I see it. IMO I think this movie will hurt his career, I don't think the majority of the public will take it well.

Bah. I'll probably see it eventually, just because of all the hype. I am not religious and I don't respect Mel Gibson as an actor, or director, sooo...why I will see it, I do not know. It has Monica Bellucci in it though, and she rules. Ever see Malena? She was excellent in that...



Edited, Tue Feb 24 14:27:05 2004 by Tare

FYI the jew's big issue is that "Jews killed Christ" has been used over centuries to justify anti-semitism, and they feel that this film promotes that mindset. They want the telling of the story to conform to Vatican II, which Gibson-buddy doesn't believe in, and/or at the very least a postscript saying that the film is not intended as an indictment against jews.
Here's a big wordy exp.

(Edited for those to lazy to follow the link)
ADL's concerns include:

-The film portrays Jewish authorities and the Jewish "mob" as forcing the decision to torture and execute Jesus, thus assuming responsibility for the crucifixion.
-The film relies on sinister medieval stereotypes, portraying Jews as blood-thirsty, sadistic and money-hungry enemies of God who lack compassion and humanity.
-The film relies on historical errors, chief among them its depiction of the Jewish high priest controlling Pontius Pilate
-The film uses an anti-Jewish account of a 19th century mystical anti-Semitic nun, distorts New Testament interpretation by selectively citing passages to weave a narrative that oversimplifies history, and is hostile to Jews and Judaism.
-The film portrays Jews who adhere to their Jewish faith as enemies of God and the locus of evil.




Edited, Tue Feb 24 14:28:22 2004 by Atomicflea

I think they're coming from a place of sincere fear for their kind, much like gays or Arab-Americans. Although I'm not 100% on their bandwagon, anyone who thinks persecution is a non-issue in this country is usually male and white.

Just sayin'

Check and check. Don't forget straight. It seems to be important these days.
Not to derail your thread, but the above being true in my case, I personally am sick of hearing all the ******** and moaning from people who don't fit the class. Nobody has ever given me a god damn thing, and looking around at all the hand outs people who aren't white and male get all I can say is it's pretty f'ucking pathetic all the whining that goes on.

But that's just me. :)

Ah, the "big bad white male" argument. Doesn't anyone ever get tired of using that? Sure persecution is a big thing everywhere but I am so sick of hearing that if you are a guy and are white you are resposible for every bad thing that has or will happen and thus must be punished or looked down for it. Maybe the cheap-shots on the white male population are more prevelent simply because it is the easy or popular group to blame.

*Edit: slight re-wording.

Edited, Tue Feb 24 14:54:48 2004 by rixtar

KILL WHITEY!

- signed The 13 year old white racist wigger.

Empyre-and notice every interview brings up the fact that the woman that plays Mary is jewish.

I'm assuming you mean the white straight male class? Well, I've posted before that I'm brown, and obviously a woman, but I can honestly say I've never gotten so much as a grant for college, all loans which I'm still paying off. I've never edged out someone for a job because of my color.
I am bilingual, intelligent and not bad to look at, and these are things that have sometimes worked to my advantage by helping supplant my lack of money and opportunity. However, I have at one time or another ******* about the fact that because I am a woman, a man feels that he is inherently more qualified for a job than I am, or that I can be paid less, or that a woman feels I would be better off at home with children. I have also ******* about the fact that because I am Hispanic I am thought to be a drain on resources that I have personally never used, and practically illiterate, not to mention the assumption that jokes about my culture and customs are fair game, since they so obviously don't compare to mainstream American culture.

These things are all colossally unfair.

I think it's *****-worthy that because of my faith, people assume I hold certain values. All this can be remedied by opening my mouth and setting them straight, but not everyone wants to listen.

Rixtar and Empyre- Am I saying that white straight males are responsible for this? In no way. I am saying that they are less likely, as a group, to experience it, and develop empathy for it.

its ok..i'm only half white. I have enough native blood in me to get plenty of government support. I don't because I'm too lazy to fill out the paper work, plus I make enough now that I can support myself..someone else can have my share.

Skeet is starting a new job that requires him to supervise workers (i.e., slack off, point) from 7am-3pm. I don't think he'll be posting much during the day anymore.

You're missing out on a free ride. Haskell Nations U in Lawrence, KS doesn't charge tuition if you're a member of a federally recognized tribe. You know you want to go to Kansas!

The Patriot?

I will see it eventually. Of course I like pretty much anything that puts another spin on a well known story.

As for hurting him professionally ? I doubt it. He might not be able to get the work he wants unless he does it himself, but he won't want for work.

He's still got the female drawing power. It's how stupid movies like "What a Woman Wants" make money.

He's guaranteed work as long as he sticks with his hero + half naked + romantic + period piece formula.

The Brits may think of this as a civil war, but for us it was almost a century too early. :)