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#1 Jan 27 2004 at 2:19 AM Rating: Good
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Is your ex being better these days? Making an effort with your son? Just always remember your post on that subject...
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#2 Jan 27 2004 at 2:25 AM Rating: Good
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Nope. She never did see him around Christmas time. I got an email from her mother asking about him and saying she hoped he could come down soon, but until mommy dearest can get off her *** and make the effort herself, I don't see any reason to change my stance.

No real news on that front mainly because she hasn't done anything to make news. I guess I'll wait and see if she makes a token effort come March for his birthday.
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#3 Jan 27 2004 at 2:29 AM Rating: Good
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Geez man. What a bee-atch! How do you stop yourself from raging out? Isn't it funny how things turn out? I mean did you suspect she was like that when you got together? Prolly not. Does your son notice her apathy? I hope not. Smiley: disappointed My bio-dad sucked too growing up and now he wants thing to be all better. Fuggit!
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#4 Jan 27 2004 at 2:41 AM Rating: Good
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She was never a model of motherhood, even when we were together. I did most of the work when he was a baby, so far as diapers, feeding and playing with him goes. Still, it was sad to see him try to get her attention because she's his mom and get rebuffed for it because she was too busy pissing away on the computer or something. She made some resistance when I was going to court for custody, but I honestly think that was more to spite me than a real desire to have him full time. I don't doubt if she did get him, her parents would be doing the actual work of raising him.

In a sense, I almost see it being better this way. She has a pretty minimal influence on him and he spends more time up here with family who show him love and support than to be with his mother and probably have to fight to get her sincere attention. It's a shame for certain, but it could be worse and I definately got the better end of the deal. Really, she's especially missing out now because when he starts school in the fall, there's only going to be less and less time to fit her in, particularly if he wants to play sports or whatever that might keep him away from visiting her for the entire summer.
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#5 Jan 27 2004 at 2:45 AM Rating: Good
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I love that you are raising him, Jophiel. You da man...

That's really sad. Do you think it was just that she wanted her freedom and felt constrained with family and all that? I have no doubt that she will regret her actions. One day she will realize she has been a royal a-hole and want to win him back... but it will be too late. I'm happy for you, Joph; that you are rid of her.
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#6 Jan 27 2004 at 2:57 AM Rating: Good
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Eh, maybe she wanted her freedom, but once you have a kid there's a thing called maturity which dictates that there's more important things now than what you want. It'd be easier on me to not have to raise him and it'd be a hell of a lot better on my social life to not have a four year old scampering about. But c'est la vie, you know? What I want, or what she wants, is no excuse to slack off on our obligation to the person we brought into the world.

Don't get me wrong, I don't regret having him in the least. It's not like I'm sitting around glaring at him and thinking I could be out on the town if not for him. I'm just making the point that maturity and obligation > personal wants and desires.

So, basically, I blame it on her being immature and selfish. There's really no nicer way to dress it up than that when you turn your back on your own child. Thanks for the kudos on raising him. Luckily, he's a good kid so he makes it fairly easy on me. I'm no super-parent by a long shot and if he was a "problem child", I might be in jail right now for locking him in the root cellar Smiley: wink
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#7 Jan 27 2004 at 3:01 AM Rating: Good
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I doubt that, Jophiel. Kids are the product of good role models and you are providing that. Kudos, you deserve 'em. That's a damn hard job. I can barely get myself out the door in the morning....

I woulda thought a 4 year old scampering around would be a good thing. Kids are cool.

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#8 Jan 27 2004 at 3:07 AM Rating: Good
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Women want a guy who is good with kids. Just not someone else's kids Smiley: wink
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#9 Jan 27 2004 at 3:12 AM Rating: Good
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I'd like someone else's kids. No birthing to do then. YAY! Especially good kids. That would be good times.

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#10 Jan 27 2004 at 3:21 AM Rating: Good
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What's thirty-five pounds cost to FedEx from Chicago to Canada? Smiley: lol

Seriously though, I admit it works from both ends. Children are the ultimate in "previous relationship baggage" and a lot of people, male and female, view that with slightly less enthusiasm than they would the plague.
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#11 Jan 27 2004 at 3:26 AM Rating: Good
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Hmmm, well, must be my "maturity" in years showing. People can sure be funny...my step-dad loved my mom and accepted her with three kids. He took us all in, and he was wonderful dad. I wouldn't be so quick to decide against someone because they have a kiddie. I hope I'm not the only one.

LOL...ship him up! I have an extra pair of long underwear he can have.
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#12 Jan 27 2004 at 4:28 AM Rating: Good
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Seriously though, I admit it works from both ends. Children are the ultimate in "previous relationship baggage" and a lot of people, male and female, view that with slightly less enthusiasm than they would the plague.


Not everyone.

A lot of people would make horrible partners or mates.

It's the few that are the exceptions, and those exceptions just may view a man with a child as a bonus package.

Especially those who can't have kids.

Someone who views you as something with baggage (whether it's a child or something else) isn't worth your damn time anyway.
#13 Jan 27 2004 at 7:44 AM Rating: Good
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Seriously though, I admit it works from both ends. Children are the ultimate in "previous relationship baggage" and a lot of people, male and female, view that with slightly less enthusiasm than they would the plague.


This makes me think of my aunt, who is perhaps the most beautiful, generous, and sweet woman I've ever met. I wish she was my mother to be honest. She wanted children more than anything in the world and when she found out that she couldn't have any, her husband left her in a heartbeat. A few years later she met a lovely man whom all of us adore. After a few dates, she found out that he already had three children from a previous marriage. Match made in heaven I think, she loves those kids.

Anyway, maybe you'll find a mom-in-waiting someday :)

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#14 Jan 27 2004 at 9:55 AM Rating: Good
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Not everyone
Hence the generalization warning Smiley: wink

Right now I'm not even putting a token effort into finding the future Mrs Jophiel, so don't think this is the Jophiel Single Guy Pity Thread.. hehe. I got sidetracked from griping about the ex Smiley: grin
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#15 Jan 27 2004 at 7:07 PM Rating: Decent
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You are so lucky, compared to her, and she is just too stupid to know it. You have your son and his love, and she threw it away.

When I was dating the absolute most turn-off were guys who were like your ex in maturity and treatment of children. You would have gotten big bonus points for the way you raise your son.

When you find the new Mrs. J. she will love both of you very much.
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