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#1 Jan 26 2004 at 2:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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How old were you when you saw your first human corpse? In real life, of course, not on TV, etc. My brother-in-law's sister died today (I maybe met her once) and, while I'll be attending the wake out of respect to my BiL, Jophiel Jr. shall remain at home. My sister apparently told my mother that he should come, but I don't see much point in bringing a four year old to stare at a dead body of someone he never even met. This isn't entirely about the body, mind you; wakes are typically not very exciting places for kids to begin with and I'd no sooner bring him for the **** of it than I'd bring him to watch someone do my taxes for two hours.

Anyway, it made me wonder about it since we already discussed when you learned about how you came into the world. When did you experience how we leave it?
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#2 Jan 26 2004 at 6:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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I actually have never seen a dead body that I can recall. Most of my grandparents that have died either did so when I was really young, and was considered too young to go to the funeral, or more recently when I was in the middle of Senior finals at college and could not make it home in time for the funeral. missed it by 1 !@#$% day. So I guess I really haven't experianced that aspect of it.
#3 Jan 26 2004 at 7:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Never seen one either. Don't think ive ever been to a funeral either, my family usually just has the body cremated then has a wake, with no "Viewing of the deseaced" which just seems creapy to no end.
#4 Jan 26 2004 at 8:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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I saw my first one around when I was eight. My aunt had a beach house that was a couple of kilometers from this beautiful beach, but the beach directly in front of her house had this sort of precipice, and the kind of current which would grab you and pull you under if you went in more than 10 or so meters.

Well this young couple had gone swimming, later then newspaper said the girl was playing coy and swam a little too far, and the current pulled her under. Her boyfriend, a 23-year old teacher swam after her and literally tossed her close enough that she got a foothold and climbed out, but he was swept under. My friends and I were riding our bikes by when she asked us for help because he was drowning.

I biked back to the house and got my mom, a nurse, while my aunt called the police. That poor guy swam all that morning, through the night... Almost 16 hours... He kept trying to make it to the shore and would get picked up and beaten into the cliff. The helicopters couldn't get him because they couldn't keep a hold of him, and once he was swept near the rocks they couldn't fly as close as they needed to without fear of crashing...

Well needless to say my mother had sent me home, but I biked out right before daybreak because my mother hadn't come home, and I was worried, and I was a dumb kid that didn't know any better. There was a bonfire. Seems that now that he had died, the girl was waiting for him to wash up, and my mother and aunt were waitng with her. I saw the body out of the corner of my eye as my mother hustled me away, but I remember the awe and respect I felt for that poor guy. He was so purple and cut up, and he tried right until the end. I often think of him.


Next body was when my friend's father died. I walked up to the casket with him because he was shaking. Poor kid. Family was Mexican and the deceased had things pinned on him, mementoes for the afterlife, and afterwards he told me that he wished he hadn't given in to the temptation to look at the casket, because it was the last memory he had of him and it wasn't a good one.

Yeah, I'm not down for the casket viewings.

Edited, Mon Jan 26 08:56:11 2004 by Atomicflea
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#5 Jan 26 2004 at 9:15 AM Rating: Decent
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havent seen a single corpse, or even been to a funeral.

i have, however, fu'cked up enough virtual ***** to thoroughly make up for the holocost.

really sucks for that guy at the beach... dying after 16 hours of struggling doesnt sound very appealing.
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#6 Jan 26 2004 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
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****, I thought somebody had "taken care" of Katie for me.

Bah, shows how much respect you all have for your Queen. Smiley: bah

First time I saw a dead body, it was my Step Grandfather's, he was a crotchety old man, never talked to me, and even when I was around 6 I could realize he was an ***-hole.

Didn't care too much when he passed away.

He looked like Hank Hill's father, just about as tall too, but it wasn't for a cool reason like Hank's father, he was just short. Maybe that was why he was so angry, I'd be ****** if I was that short.
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I was 26.

I remember very clearly coming home that night around 12:30 a.m. As I was coming up the long driveway I noticed that nearly every light in the house was on, so I was already uneasy by the time I got inside. The owner of the house, my best friend, had been dumped by her boyfriend that night, which was just one in a long list of hurts she had endured.

I immediately went back to my bedroom to let my puppy out. He was still a baby and I had to keep him in a kennel when I was gone. As I walked by my best friend's bedroom (which was directly across from mine) I saw that her light was on and she was lying on her bed, with her feet on the floor. It looked very uncomfortable and I figured she had drank too much and passed out. As I took the dog out I decided I would wake her up or move her into a more comfortable position when I returned.

I put the dog back in his kennel and went into her room. I can't even begin to describe my thoughts at this point. The way they escalated from calm to panic.

There was blood pooled all around her right side, more blood than I have ever seen. Her eyes were closed and the phone was lying next to her. But she still looked merely asleep, which my mind refused to let go of. I thought she had slit her wrists and was still alive, just passed out ... she had to be alive ... so I called her name and touched her arm. It was cold. My mind still demanded she was alive, and I grabbed the phone to call 9-1-1.

As I was talking to the operator, I went back in her room and realized, to my ultimate horror, that what she was holding in her hand wasn't a knife, it was her snub nose .38. I knew at that moment that she was dead.

All of this is as vivid to me as if it happened yesterday. I don't think about it hardly at all anymore, I remember her happy and full of life.

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Edited, Mon Jan 26 12:48:34 2004 by Angua
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Yikes. Didn't mean to dredge that up, Angua. That's not a "wish you hadn't posted" but a "hope I didn't upset you".

I have to admit I'm a little suprised at the responses here. I probably first attended a wake somewhere between six and eight years of age. Since then, I've attended at least twelve to fifteen wakes/funerals, all open casket from what I can recall. Been a pall bearer several times, done readings at funerals, etc. It's just always been a part of life for me.
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i have only seen 1 corpse which was in South Africa aged 10 he was shot about 100 yards away and my mum went to see if she could help but he was already gone, it was kinda sureal because he was lying on his back and there was just a smal patch of blood on his jacket but he was lying in a big pool of blood. I was hustled away pretty fast and it didn't really effect me so bad.

A good friend of mine form my ship however had a terrible experiance when the navy where covering the fire strikes last year, he was called out to an RTA wher some guy had died and his wife was fatally injured but still alive next to him. She apparently tried repeatedly to wake him up and they couldn't move her because her lower body was crushed and if they did she would die on the spot. She lasted about an hour before she lost consiousness but she had realised he was dead by that point.

My friend was really cut up about it and got really depressed and the Navy, caring as they are, gave him a week off and told him to get back to work, no counciling or anything.

I saw him last week and he still looked pretty bad, he said he is getting better but it has changed how he looks at things and still wakes up screaming on occasions.
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#10 Jan 26 2004 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
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Yikes. Didn't mean to dredge that up, Angua. That's not a "wish you hadn't posted" but a "hope I didn't upset you".


Don't worry about it, Joph. It doesn't touch me anymore when I talk about it, it's like reciting some well learned verse. I've had many tragedies in my life, and for the most part I can look at them in a fashion that doesn't make me feel anything.

Flea - your story was really awful. Thinking of that poor guy and all those people there to help him but they couldn't. Ugh. =(
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First and only dead body i have seen was my fathers. He had been battleing Brain cancer for 6 months and we get "the call" from the hospital at 7am on the 12th of february 1995. we went to the hospital to see him for the last time. because he wanted to be creamated, at his funeral he was in an urn.

RIP poppa

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#12 Jan 26 2004 at 1:21 PM Rating: Good
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Hmm..saw my dad after he died in a motorcycle accident. Mom couldn't deal with that at all so I had to take care of things. I felt bad because his body was so broken. He didn't look like himself. I never want to see another dead body, or look upon the faces of the people I have loved in life when they are dead. And when I die, whether I am 30 or 87, I want my casket to be closed, with my brother sitting on top, pouring the shots. People will have to file past my casket and drink a shot of vodka. Smiley: grin

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#13 Jan 26 2004 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
It isn't pleasant, for sure.

My first was when I was 8. It was my mother. She fell down some stairs, was in a coma for 3 days. The family decided that was enough, as she most likely would have had severe brain damage if she came out.

I'm a proponant of closed-casket ceremonies myself.
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#14 Jan 26 2004 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Never seen a dead human as far as I know of. Never been to a wake or funeral. My mom once thought that my brother had died in his sleep, but he was just passed out after a week-long bender.
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I was 12 when I saw mine. My cousin is one sick F*ck. He works in a hospital as a mortician, though at the time I didn't know it. My parents and aunts always called him a nurse. Well, one day I asked him what it was he did, and he decided that I was old enough to know. He brought me to the hospital and brought me down to the sub-basement where he worked. Lying on the table was a 16 year old girl that had died in a car accident. She was sliced open down the middle and everything that was inside was sitting on a tray next to her, arrawyed so you could see (examine) all of it. She had only been there 15 minutes and they had just got done. Not pretty site I'll tell you that. To this day I refuse to go to any open-casket funeral, mostly because I know what they did before hand.
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You know how some old folks go to a zillion funerals, well my Grandmother was my babysitter, and I went to funerals as long as I can remember. I have both good and bad memories. For many families it is almost a social event, like a wedding, only less cheery. There's food and friendship and comfort. I am not saying this is bad, you all tell funny stories about the person and share good memories, and hug and comfort each other. Some relatives expect the children to come so they can all see them, not so the kids can stare at the body (by the way, as several people have pointed out already, if you haven't seen the dead outside of a funeral home, it is not the same cleaned up sterile thing, and I haven't seen nearly as bad as described here).

Now I am not advising taking the kids, and I certainly didn't take mine to a lot of them, and when I did take them, I often dropped them off with relatives in the "coffee klatch" areas, well away from the deceased.

However, death is a part of life, and learning to handle it, is important too, without exposing the kids too early to too much.
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#17 Jan 26 2004 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Feb 11 1992 was the first time and since then seen many.The last one was my Mother who died last october at the young age of 60 due to cancer. War and cancer are both ****
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That poor guy swam all that morning, through the night... Almost 16 hours... He kept trying to make it to the shore and would get picked up and beaten into the cliff. The helicopters couldn't get him because they couldn't keep a hold of him, and once he was swept near the rocks they couldn't fly as close as they needed to without fear of crashing...



I guess they've never heard of boats in your neck of the woods. Or maybe just throw the poor ******* a friggin life preserver. Who was running that rescue operation?

The man's fit enough to swim for 16 hours, and they can't get a decent rescue together in that time? That's outrageous.


As for dead bodies, I saw my first when I was about 13, my paternal grandfather died. I had never met him. Since then I've seen far more than I like.

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Saw a floater in Manhattan's East River when I was 5-6 years old.

Saw a nakid dead girl at a bus stop walking to school when I was about 11 in the Bronx. Cops had already arrived and were cutting off the surrounding area with do not cross tape. She had multiple lacerations from what I could see. That did a number on me for awhile.

I had an apt. in Washington Heights for a little while, thats upper manhattan by the George Washington Bridge, and a pretty sketchy place for those of you not familiar with the area, and literally everyday there was gunshots, stabbings, people beaten to death for $10 etc.

I saw this kid (maybe 10 at the most) verbally going at it with a much older kid (I'm guessing 15-17ish) outside the corner store. From what I could make out (I'm walking across the street) they were fighting over a $2.99 cheap no name squirt gun one of them had just bought.

Next thing I see is the smaller one whip out a box cutter and slice the older kid. I saw the fu'cking white meat hanging out of his face!

That didnt even make the news.

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#20 Jan 27 2004 at 5:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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This thread makes me wish that bad things didn't happen ever.
#21 Jan 27 2004 at 7:49 AM Rating: Good
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Everyone in the world died when I was 13 (ok, so not really, but four friends and 1 grandfather). Two were open casket. I think that was the first time I saw a body.

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#22 Jan 27 2004 at 9:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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I guess they've never heard of boats in your neck of the woods. Or maybe just throw the poor ******* a friggin life preserver. Who was running that rescue operation?

The man's fit enough to swim for 16 hours, and they can't get a decent rescue together in that time? That's outrageous.


Well, let's see. It took about an hour for them to send the police, who couldn't go in with boats since they would have gotten tossed against the cliff, they said. The waves were so strong, and he was so close to the cliff that the man trying to rescue him, the one hanging from the helicopter, was also beta into the face of the cliff several times, and when they were done he had to be taken into the hospital with exhaustion, and he had multiple bruises and lacerations...

It was a tiny town in the middle of nowhere. I was amazed that they could rustle up a helicopter... According to my father (ex-helicopter pilot) it was too light a model for what they needed, too easy for them to crash it and it was probably the most expensive thing the local govm't owned... Yeah, it was awful, but the way that guy kept trying was SO inspiring. I'll always remember it. We all die eventually, but hats off to him. It's like a microcosm, that day.
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#23 Jan 27 2004 at 9:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I get to see another one, just answered the phone to find out that my mother in law died.Now I get to tell my wife when she gets out the shower.Hmmm this one can hop over to the bad day thread. Nuts
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Flea - That story is so sad... I can't imagine how that poor guy must have felt.

Angua - Wow. Something like that would have seriously f'ckd me up for a while.

Johnny - Very sorry to hear about this.

As for me, I was young, maybe 8 or 9 and it was my great-grandmother. She died of old age. I've not seen any dead bodies that weren't at the funeral home in a casket already. Guess I've been lucky.
#25 Jan 28 2004 at 1:34 AM Rating: Good
Flea and Angua, those are very shocking stories.

The first corpse I ever saw was my father's. He'd died in a hospital bed a few hours earlier.
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