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#1852 Dec 30 2011 at 6:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ugly, I was thinking the same thing. Ironically enough, the Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary (for those learning English) has it better:

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the practice of unfairly treating a person or group of people differently from other people or groups of people


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#1853 Dec 30 2011 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
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The solution is to educate the ignorant public. If the public still persists, then you simply say "no". Just because the public decides to legalize theft and murder, doesn't mean that it should happen.


The problem is that educating the public is against the interesting of politicians. If the public was really educated we'd have an American Bastille Day and public executions on the National Mall.. instead of a bunch of hippies camping in parks..
...but the country would would have to shatter like a mirror before that ever happened. Those will be exiting times.

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Somewhere in our government, there has to be someone to deny such idiocy.


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#1854 Dec 30 2011 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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I have no idea what on earth Kelvy is talking about. Who's side is he on here?

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#1855 Dec 30 2011 at 9:46 AM Rating: Good
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Discriminating against something (logical or not) doesn't make you a bigot. Don't fault me for using words that you don't understand.

Well, maybe I'd understand it if you used it correctly?

Edited, Dec 30th 2011 9:48am by Allegory
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I have no idea what on earth Kelvy is talking about. Who's side is he on here?

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#1857 Dec 30 2011 at 10:10 AM Rating: Default
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The solution is to educate the ignorant public. If the public still persists, then you simply say "no". Just because the public decides to legalize theft and murder, doesn't mean that it should happen. Somewhere in our government, there has to be someone to deny such idiocy.



You mean the same government that just passed into law the ability for the state to confine any american citizen without disclosing reason, or attaining verdict of a jury. Ya lets rely on the most corrupt facet of america to determine what is and isn't corrupt.

Also Banging guys in the *** or laying some rug is not murder, or theft. Generally it is an act of expression consented to between 2 or more willing persons. If it isn't consented you have laws in place for that too. I suppose you have never hear of rape, or sexual abuse/harrassment issues before.
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#1858 Dec 30 2011 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
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[quote=Eske Esquire]I have no idea what on earth Kelvy is talking about. Who's side is he on here?

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Considering the thread is about DADT, assigning a side for Kelvy to rant on isn't really necessary. Is it?
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#1859 Dec 30 2011 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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#1860 Dec 30 2011 at 10:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Discriminating against something (logical or not) doesn't make you a bigot. Don't fault me for using words that you don't understand.
Well, maybe I'd understand it if you used it correctly?
He can only make so many flashcards.
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#1861 Dec 30 2011 at 10:56 AM Rating: Default
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Discriminating against something (logical or not) doesn't make you a bigot.


Merriam-Webster wrote:
Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices


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Discrimination: a : the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually b : prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment


I'm not the smartest tack in the box, but those two words seem to fall together.


Then I must question your understanding of English.

The first definition keys on being obstinately or intolerant. Those are the key words. In other words, no matter what you say, s/he will not change their opinion.

Having the belief that there doesn't exist a single scenario where it's ok to discriminate against homosexuality or sexuality for that matter, would fall in that category.

The second definition does not contain the words obstinately or intolerant anywhere.

As I said, my former McDonalds boss at one time didn't hire any black people because of their skin color. She racially discriminated, but that didn't make her a bigot, because as soon as there were more white people, she hired black people as well.

Discriminating doesn't make you a bigot. I'm sorry if you fail to understand that concept.
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Considering the thread is about DADT, assigning a side for Kelvy to rant on isn't really necessary. Is it?


I'm not taking any persons side. I'm just calling it as I see it.
Somewhere buried in this thread is my opinion of gay people in the military. The laws of what they do sexually should be same as the laws of what anyone else does sexually. I think in the military no one should be given special treatment. If people want to have sex in the barracks the consequences should be no different regardless of how or who they are boning.

contrary to popular beliefs all Christians don't pick and choose which sin is worse than others. The biggest sin that I see is hating people and being disrespectful and insensitive to others.
I try not to judge; but I will certainly speak my mind.

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#1863 Dec 30 2011 at 10:59 AM Rating: Default
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Kelvyquayo wrote:
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The solution is to educate the ignorant public. If the public still persists, then you simply say "no". Just because the public decides to legalize theft and murder, doesn't mean that it should happen.


The problem is that educating the public is against the interesting of politicians. If the public was really educated we'd have an American Bastille Day and public executions on the National Mall.. instead of a bunch of hippies camping in parks..
...but the country would would have to shatter like a mirror before that ever happened. Those will be exiting times.

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Somewhere in our government, there has to be someone to deny such idiocy.


You have a better chance waiting for Jesus to return than waiting for someone in government to put his neck(career) on the line.



All may be true, but it doesn't contradict my claim.

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Well, maybe I'd understand it if you used it correctly?


Why don't you tell me how it was used incorrectly?

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He can only make so many flashcards.


Why would I make any flash cards?

Edited, Dec 30th 2011 6:59pm by Almalieque
#1864 Dec 30 2011 at 11:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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He can only make so many flashcards.
Why would make any flash cards?
Start with the letter I, shortstack.
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#1865 Dec 30 2011 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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Allegory wrote:
Well, maybe I'd understand it if you used it correctly?


Why don't you tell me how it was used incorrectly?


Ah, his old fail-safe. When cornered on an obvious mistake, pretend not to understand it and kick the can a little further down the road. He's hoping that when you provide the exposition, there'll be an ancillary point that he can seize on to distract from the mistake.

Edited, Dec 30th 2011 12:28pm by Eske
#1866Almalieque, Posted: Dec 30 2011 at 12:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ha.. now that's funny.. So, when he did a "fail safe" by not countering my claim, only saying, "you're doing it wrong", you say nothing. Given his lack of detail, I ask for clarification. Now, you claim that me asking for further clarification beyond than "you're doing it wrong" is a "fail safe".
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Almalieque wrote:
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Wait, what? How does this even make sense in your tiny @#%^ing mind?

There are no logical reasons to discriminate against anyone for anything without it being tantamount to bigotry, you @#%^ing moron.

And no your inane drivel about black and white actors does not count. What is wrong with you? Why are you so
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Discriminating against something (logical or not) doesn't make you a bigot. Don't fault me for using words that you don't understand.

Discriminating against something solely on the basis that it is that thing makes you a bigot. You fucking cretin.

If I didn't like you because you are black, that would make me a bigot. Happily, I don't like you because you're a cunt so I'm fine.
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#1871 Dec 30 2011 at 6:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
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Almalieque wrote:
Allegory wrote:
Well, maybe I'd understand it if you used it correctly?


Why don't you tell me how it was used incorrectly?


Ah, his old fail-safe. When cornered on an obvious mistake, pretend not to understand it and kick the can a little further down the road. He's hoping that when you provide the exposition, there'll be an ancillary point that he can seize on to distract from the mistake.

Edited, Dec 30th 2011 12:28pm by Eske


Ha.. now that's funny.. So, when he did a "fail safe" by not countering my claim, only saying, "you're doing it wrong", you say nothing. Given his lack of detail, I ask for clarification. Now, you claim that me asking for further clarification beyond than "you're doing it wrong" is a "fail safe".

HTF does that make sense? If anything, simply saying "you're doing it wrong" without any explanation is a "fail safe". If you're so certain of yourself, you would at least define it and point out your point.

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#1872 Dec 30 2011 at 8:31 PM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
Why don't you tell me how it was used incorrectly?

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You, along with others, do not believe that there exist a single logical argument in support of any form of discrimination of homosexuals, which by definition makes YOU THE BIGOT, not me.

I don't so much have to tell you how you have used bigot incorrectly as you have to demonstrate how you remotely used it appropriately at all.

Because everyone here can see you're bad at making logical arguments, we're bigoted against you? You'd have an easier time selling us as hating you for being black. We all know at least Soracloud hates black people.

Edited, Dec 30th 2011 8:32pm by Allegory
#1873 Dec 30 2011 at 9:56 PM Rating: Good
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We all know at least Soracloud hates black people.

Edited, Dec 30th 2011 8:32pm by Allegory

It's true, he srsly haets those guys.
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#1874Almalieque, Posted: Dec 30 2011 at 9:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm sorry if you fail to comprehend the difference. The words have two completely different definitions. If you are a bigot, then you are discriminating. If you discriminate, that doesn't make you a bigot. All you have done was provide an example of the former. I provided an example of the latter and I'll do it again.
#1875 Dec 30 2011 at 10:13 PM Rating: Default
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I don't so much have to tell you how you have used bigot incorrectly as you have to demonstrate how you remotely used it appropriately at all.


So, in other words, you have nothing? Ok, that's what I thought. Just want to make sure. You come off all tough like you know something, then you coward away in more irrelevant words. If you can't provide a definition and explain how those words were used incorrectly, then obviously you're full of ish. Especially if you're using the same amount of effort NOT doing it.

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Because everyone here can see you're bad at making logical arguments, we're bigoted against you?


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You, along with others, do not believe that there exist a single logical argument in support of any form of discrimination of homosexuals, which by definition makes YOU THE BIGOT, not me.


Your failure to comprehend that sentence only supports my above argument.

1. This had nothing to do with anyone agreeing with me. People have stated (i.e. OmegaVegeta) that there are no logical reasons in any scenario to EVER discriminate against homosexuality EVER. Yet, supports discrimination against every other human trait. That, by definition makes him bigoted in favor of homosexuals.

2. No where in that sentence did I allude to being bigoted against. That's purely something that you made up.
#1876 Dec 30 2011 at 10:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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