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#777 Apr 07 2011 at 9:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not going to pull a Jophiel

Good to know I touched a nerve :)
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#778 Apr 07 2011 at 9:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
I'm not going to pull a Jophiel

Good to know I touched a nerve :)


Way to give yourself undeserved credit. Or, is this part of your delusional contradictory success tactic?
#779 Apr 07 2011 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
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I'm not going to pull a Jophiel

Good to know I touched a nerve :)


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#780 Apr 07 2011 at 9:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Way to give yourself undeserved credit.

You don't need to admit to it. Your referencing of me was enough to know you felt the sting :)
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#781 Apr 07 2011 at 10:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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#782 Apr 07 2011 at 6:14 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Way to give yourself undeserved credit.

You don't need to admit to it. Your referencing of me was enough to know you felt the sting :)


Still
nothing?!

Trying to change the subject I see... get back to avoiding addressing your contradiction.
#783 Apr 07 2011 at 8:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
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Almalieque wrote:
Way to give yourself undeserved credit.

You don't need to admit to it. Your referencing of me was enough to know you felt the sting :)


Still
nothing?!

Trying to change the subject I see... get back to avoiding addressing your contradiction.
Awww, he's picking up the gbaji ellipsis! It's like watching a fledgling leave the nest.
#784 Apr 08 2011 at 2:02 AM Rating: Default
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Sweetums wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Way to give yourself undeserved credit.

You don't need to admit to it. Your referencing of me was enough to know you felt the sting :)


Still
nothing?!

Trying to change the subject I see... get back to avoiding addressing your contradiction.
Awww, he's picking up the gbaji ellipsis! It's like watching a fledgling leave the nest.


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#785 Apr 08 2011 at 2:19 AM Rating: Good
Still. He's got a long way to go...
#786 Apr 08 2011 at 2:35 AM Rating: Default
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Kavekk wrote:
Still. He's got a long way to go...


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#787 Apr 08 2011 at 6:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Still. He's got a long way to go...


Almalieque wrote:
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Color me surprised that you wouldn't get it and need an explanation.
#788 Apr 08 2011 at 6:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Still nothing?!

Awww... so cute! when you keep trying to flip that one around.

I say "you keep trying" because I gave up trying to make you admit that you never had an argument. I made it abundantly clear to everyone else and, just like with Gbaji, my goal can't be to make people like you admit that they're wrong, only to expose their error to everyone else.

But you keep taking things I said and saying them back at me! That'll get me!

Edited, Apr 8th 2011 7:35am by Jophiel
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#789 Apr 08 2011 at 6:46 PM Rating: Default
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Nadenu wrote:
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Still. He's got a long way to go...


Almalieque The All Knowing wrote:
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Color me surprised that you wouldn't get it and need an explanation.


I'm not sure why posters here think someone should understand every single post in regards to them. I may come off as all knowing, but that doesn't mean I can't misunderstand something.... sheesh.

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Awww... so cute! when you keep trying to flip that one around.

I say "you keep trying" because I gave up trying to make you admit that you never had an argument. I made it abundantly clear to everyone else and, just like with Gbaji, my goal can't be to make people like you admit that they're wrong, only to expose their error to everyone else.

But you keep taking things I said and saying them back at me! That'll get me!


You really have a serious case of denial if you think I'm "flipping" anything. The best thing about these threads is that you or anyone can simply go back and reread it. So, if you or anyone believes your current claim, then they are in denial, plain and simple.

You clearly brought up and a claim and then contradicted yourself. That's why you dropped the conversation and tried to get me to ignore the fact that you contradicted yourself.

I'm sorry, but since I have the capability to read, there is nothing you can say to get me to believe that I'm "flipping" anything. But, if you want to ride off of your "popularity" as "accuracy", then so be it. Your "popularity" doesn't interfere with my ability to read.
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You really have a serious case of denial if you think I'm "flipping" anything.

:D
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#792 Apr 09 2011 at 10:49 AM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
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You really have a serious case of denial if you think I'm "flipping" anything.

:D


See, now you're even flipping your REAL emotions... "D:"
#793 Apr 09 2011 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Almalieque wrote:
I'm not sure why posters here think someone should understand every single post in regards to them. I may come off as all knowing, but that doesn't mean I can't misunderstand something.... sheesh.

The problem would be that you misunderstand everything, but only admit it on the simple stuff that even a child would have understood. On more complex issues, you just stagger awkwardly forward with your arguments and make a massive blunder of the entire conversation.
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I'm not sure why posters here think someone should understand every single post in regards to them. I may come off as all knowing, but that doesn't mean I can't misunderstand something.... sheesh.

The problem would be that you misunderstand everything, but only admit it on the simple stuff that even a child would have understood. On more complex issues, you just stagger awkwardly forward with your arguments and make a massive blunder of the entire conversation.


Example please?

What I took from that statement is "You don't agree with us on many topics".

Even if you thought I only admitted to simple stuff, that's more than what majority of the other posters do. Posters have said contradictory things but for whatever reason only targeted their responses to me. People will spend much more effort NOT explaining something to me than explaining to me what I don't understand. So this fantasy belief of me misunderstanding everything is just that, a delusional fantasy created to make you feel more valuable in life.
#795 Apr 09 2011 at 2:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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People will spend much more effort NOT explaining something to me than explaining to me what I don't understand.

Nah, people try once or twice, see that you're more interested in defending yourself than seeing anything new and give up. Sometimes they just make fun of you for a while after that for the lulz.

I know you'll insist that this isn't what's happening but so it goes. Being on the winning side of that equation, I don't have any real incentive to bang my head trying to convince you otherwise. If it makes you feel any better, Gbaji is the same way and is, like you, convinced that the only reason he gets so much **** (far more than other conservatives) is because he's some special little martyr-flower who no one else understands and not because of any particular character traits on his part.

Maybe you and he can get together some day for a little pity tea party.
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#796 Apr 09 2011 at 5:08 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
People will spend much more effort NOT explaining something to me than explaining to me what I don't understand.

Nah, people try once or twice, see that you're more interested in defending yourself than seeing anything new and give up. Sometimes they just make fun of you for a while after that for the lulz.
That's how it was for me. A post or two trying to get him to understand and then the rest trolling him. I can't even be bothered to troll him anymore though.
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#797 Apr 10 2011 at 10:12 AM Rating: Default
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Nah, people try once or twice, see that you're more interested in defending yourself than seeing anything new and give up. Sometimes they just make fun of you for a while after that for the lulz.

I know you'll insist that this isn't what's happening but so it goes.


The number one misconception with posters on this forum is the belief that opposing opinions equal stupidity. Do you honestly believe that I don't realize the truth in your statement? The fact that you are implying that I don't understand that concept makes it even more ironic when you refuse to accept that I'm equally "toying" with you.

I've said numerous times over, I love to debate and it becomes blatantly obvious when the poster doesn't make any effort in explaining their position IN A DEBATE, then they have no position. I'm not talking about two or more attempts of an explanation, I'm talking about ONE attempt.

Nadenu (Samira? I forget) made a comment about "where does it stop?". I responded and their response to my comment was "You don't understand and I"m not going to explain" which really meant "I was wrong but I'm not going to admit to it".

I knew I hit the nail on the head, so that's why I said "oh, ok explain it to me". I realized that it was a possibility that I did misunderstand it, but not likely. Their lack of explanation supported my claim.

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Being on the winning side of that equation, I don't have any real incentive to bang my head trying to convince you otherwise.


Winning side? Well, if you argue both sides, you are technically "correct" in at least one way.

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If it makes you feel any better, Gbaji is the same way and is, like you, convinced that the only reason he gets so much sh*t (far more than other conservatives) is because he's some special little martyr-flower who no one else understands and not because of any particular character traits on his part.


Whether you admit it or not, we are "special", not in the sense that you are implying, but in the sense that we are the minority in most views. That isn't an opinion but a fact. The more we disagree on topics, the more that builds against our overall "image".

As I pointed out in this thread and many others, when posters only focus on countering my arguments when other posters equally disagree, you can't deny the obvious. In this thread, someone made this absurd statement that Europeans came to the "U.S" and called it "America" so because it was called "America" first, then they deserve the right to be called "American". Not only is that obviously wrong, no one else believes that, yet no one made any countering statement to it. At the same time, posters spent 2-3 pages arguing with me on the usage of "America/n".

So, you can live in delusion all you want, but it's blatantly obvious what's going on.

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That's how it was for me. A post or two trying to get him to understand and then the rest trolling him. I can't even be bothered to troll him anymore though.



That's because you fail at trolling, Mr. "I'm ignoring you".
#798 Apr 10 2011 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Almalieque wrote:
Nadenu (Samira? I forget) made a comment about "where does it stop?". I responded and their response to my comment was "You don't understand and I"m not going to explain" which really meant "I was wrong but I'm not going to admit to it".
That's what starts happening after attempting to explain something a half dozen times to somebody. After a while you just cut your losses and stop bothering because we know you're either going to not get it or adamantly defend yourself in the face of evidence to the contrary anyway.
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#799 Apr 10 2011 at 12:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
The number one misconception with posters on this forum is the belief that opposing opinions equal stupidity.

The number one misconception with stupid people is the rigid belief that they're just misunderstood. Jus' sayin' is all.
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we are the minority in most views.

Moe is a minority in most views. Totem is a minority in most views. Neither of them inspire ten page spreads of inane debating. There has been other conservative posters on the forum who didn't leave everyone with the impression that they were morons. There's been liberal posters like Shadowrelm whose politics aligned towards the majority yet, due to their inability to understand a basic point, were constantly derided by the majority of posters.

I know that "But... but... it's only because I don't think just like you!" is the easy cop-out to keep yourself feeling like a special misunderstood flower but maybe you should look beyond the easy answers.

Edited, Apr 10th 2011 1:08pm by Jophiel
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Almalieque wrote:
The number one misconception with posters on this forum is the belief that opposing opinions equal stupidity.


The number two misconception being the belief that your opinion in fact not stupid.
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Almalieque wrote:
Nadenu (Samira? I forget) made a comment about "where does it stop?". I responded and their response to my comment was "You don't understand and I"m not going to explain" which really meant "I was wrong but I'm not going to admit to it".
That's what starts happening after attempting to explain something a half dozen times to somebody. After a while you just cut your losses and stop bothering because we know you're either going to not get it or adamantly defend yourself in the face of evidence to the contrary anyway.


If that were true, then you wouldn't even bother stating anything in the first place. Besides, at the end of the day, it's not about what you are saying, but the amount of effort placed in saying it. If you're placing the equivalent or more amount of effort not saying something as you would just saying it, then it's not about "cutting your losses". If it were, what exactly are you "cutting"?

Jophiel wrote:
The number one misconception with stupid people is the rigid belief that they're just misunderstood. Jus' sayin' is all.


Who's claiming any misunderstanding? Jus' sayin' is all..

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I previously wrote:

I know you'll insist that this isn't what's happening but...

...so it goes. *Shrug*


Almalieque right in response to your comment of people posting for Lulz wrote:
Do you honestly believe that I don't realize the truth in your statement?


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Moe is a minority in most views. Totem is a minority in most views. Neither of them inspire ten page spreads of inane debating. There has been other conservative posters on the forum who didn't leave everyone with the impression that they were morons. There's been liberal posters like Shadowrelm whose politics aligned towards the majority yet, due to their inability to understand a basic point, were constantly derided by the majority of posters.

I know that "But... but... it's only because I don't think just like you!" is the easy cop-out to keep yourself feeling like a special misunderstood flower but maybe you should look beyond the easy answers.


Actions speak louder than words. When there are posters on a thread who disagree with each other, but are not debating each other, only me, then what do you call that? You can label it a "cop-out" all you want, but I call it how I see it.

Posters were arguing against me about what other posters said instead of directly at them. If you want to label that something else, then be my guest.


If you feel so confident about your belief of me being "stupid", then give me examples. All you or anyone else have said is "You fail to comprehend a basic point", which is a whole lot like saying "You're misunderstanding me". Yet, somehow me saying that makes me stupid, but when you say it, it makes you right. You haven't provided anything that I haven't already provided to the discussion. As a result, this is nothing more than a "You don't agree with me, therefore you are stupid". I can just as equally say "you don't understand the most basic point". Does that some how now make me right and you wrong?

Get real.

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