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#52 Jul 14 2015 at 7:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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But in practice, this has meant that they actively work to release people they think might be illegal before the Feds can issue a warrant. Citation needed

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#53 Jul 15 2015 at 3:16 AM Rating: Good
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If I am reading my gbajibibleTM right, you are a Nazi.

Did I get that right?

Edited: Because Nazi is as foul as vagina............I guess?
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#54 Jul 15 2015 at 7:34 AM Rating: Good
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if it were up to me, San Francisco would have held him at the fed's request.
That's because you're a stupid liberal and believe things should make sense.
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#55 Jul 15 2015 at 7:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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Eh, if they wanted him that bad they should've gotten a warrant.
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Jophiel wrote:
if it were up to me, San Francisco would have held him at the fed's request.
That's because you're a stupid liberal and believe things should make sense.
As I said, if it were up to me...

If it were up to me...

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#57 Jul 15 2015 at 8:51 AM Rating: Good
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Quick google shows it was less holding him and ICE was asking to be notified of the release. Either way, it seems like departmental dick measuring that needs to be ironed out.
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Quick google shows it was less holding him and ICE was asking to be notified of the release. Either way, it seems like departmental dick measuring that needs to be ironed out.


It's a bit worse than that actually. Apparently, he had just finished serving a federal prison sentence and was already in ICE custody to be deported when the SF DA office (I think that's who?) requested that ICE hand them to their custody to pursue some old drug charges he had in SF. After a month or so, the SF DA decided to drop the charges, and despite having been asked by ICE to inform them if they were going to release him, chose not to inform them and just released him on the streets.

As I stated earlier, this suggests an active effort to prevent deportations, apparently with no regard for who the person in question is. While I suppose it's possible that the SF DA really did want to pursue a drug charge against him, it's also possible that this technique (request a transfer for a deportee on a local charge and then drop said charge in order to prevent deportation) is just a standard thing that some folks do as part of the fight against deportation. It's just hard to see stuff like this and other immigration actions (like that whole nuttiness at UCSC) and not see a pattern of certain people taking ridiculous actions in the name of fighting for the right of illegal immigrants to stay in the US. I could totally see someone that invested in this fight actively seeking out people on a deportation list and then finding any way possible to "save" them.

You'd think at some point someone would step back and ask if this is really the kind of person we want in the US in the first place? Forest and trees and all that, right?
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While I suppose it's possible that the SF DA really did want to pursue a drug charge against him, it's also possible that this technique (request a transfer for a deportee on a local charge and then drop said charge in order to prevent deportation) is just a standard thing that some folks do as part of the fight against deportation.
I find it amusing how much of a hard on you have for small government and things being handled locally, but your first assumption is that the local government is corrupt.
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#60 Jul 16 2015 at 7:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can tell you that the awesome efficiency of the SF City Council is such that, if their goal were to actively prevent deportations, this would be a ghost town.

No one is saying this wasn't a colossal ****-up. It patently was. But the whole evil conspiracy to keep criminals walking the streets among us? Doesn't scan.
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#61 Jul 16 2015 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
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You'd think at some point someone would step back and ask if this is really the kind of person we want in the US in the first place?
Keeping multiple felony convicts who've been deported numerous times out is one thing. Piggybacking on it to build a wall to keep out all the Irish is another.
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#62 Jul 17 2015 at 7:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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So, I found this interesting, in a really depressing way.

Our beloved sheriff is an... interesting person. High drama in his personal life, high drama in his public life. I don't know what bearing this really has on the shooting, but it's a pretty toxic situation all around.

Ah, local politics. It's the best show in town.
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#63 Jul 17 2015 at 8:01 AM Rating: Good
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Ah, local politics. It's the best show in town.
We've been pretty quiet lately. I think all we really have is Mayor De Blasio vs Uber and the "Ten Hours of Catcalls" lady suing a bunch of people for using her likeness or some such.

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It's just hard to see stuff like this and other immigration actions (like that whole nuttiness at UCSC) and not see a pattern of certain people taking ridiculous actions in the name of fighting for the right of illegal immigrants to stay in the US. I could totally see someone that invested in this fight actively seeking out people on a deportation list and then finding any way possible to "save" them.

You'd think at some point someone would step back and ask if this is really the kind of person we want in the US in the first place? Forest and trees and all that, right?
You know, last night Angela Merkel was on German TV and a young female refugee in the audience told her that all of her friends were going off to uni and she wanted to also but she was afraid she was going to be deported. Merkel responded by telling her, in sum, "well we can't just take in everyone, sorry about that" and she's facing a **** storm this morning because of that.

I know, different country. But the same thing happens here - there are unlawful immigrants (an illegal is a sick bird) who's children establish a life here, make contributions, and are afraid of being deported. Wherever you stand on the issue, you need to understand that there's an anti-gbaji somewhere looking at that kid, who just wants to go to uni and make a positive contribution to the country, and saying that "You'd think at some point someone would step back and ask if this is really the kind of person we want to kick out of the US in the first place?"

I guarantee that anti-gbaji would agree that the dickhead in SF is not the kind of person we want in the US in the first place. But unrelated, individual cases do not make for strong evidence one way or another. Also, maybe if things weren't so bad over there, "they" wouldn't want to come over here.

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I'm not sure about a shit storm, the news I read about it seemed to paint her in a sympathetic and thoughtful light. She didn't ignore the question and showed compassion. I'm sure there are sources trashing her though.

Edited, Jul 17th 2015 12:34pm by Xsarus
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Back on Trump, the Huffington Post says that they will be reporting on Trump in the entertainment section of the website instead of the news/politics section.

I think this is pretty dumb. Regardless of anyone's suspicions on why he's running, Trump is a declared candidate, filled out the paperwork, leads the GOP polls and is as much a candidate as anyone right now. He should be covered the same as the rest of them. If they haven't yet, I expect HP to back off this decision... "Heh, just kidding guys..."
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Having an opinion on the editorial decisions of the Huffington Post would necessitate that I give a non-zero amount of fucks about the Huffington Post in the first place. They can report on him in the Classified section for all I care.

Salon, on the other hand, needs to fire their entire writing staff into the sun.
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I'm not sure about a shit storm, the news I read about it seemed to paint her in a sympathetic and thoughtful light. She didn't ignore the question and showed compassion. I'm sure there are sources trashing her though.

Edited, Jul 17th 2015 12:34pm by Xsarus
Well, I heard about it on my morning ride on the BBC news and this is their headline at the moment: Angela Merkel attacked over crying refugee girl. Much as I hate the way the BBC announcers insist on mis-pronouncing every word that ends in "a" or "aw" as though it ended in "er" I have to say it's the best news feed available to me in the car. I'm not taking a position on it, it just came to mind as an example for me.

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Apparently Trump asserted that Rick Perry should be required to take an IQ test to qualify for candidacy, and that Perry misused the word "demagoguery" with regards to Trump. Oddly, he seems to have used it exactly as he should have.
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#70 Jul 17 2015 at 5:38 PM Rating: Good
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Apparently Trump asserted that Rick Perry should be required to take an IQ test to qualify for candidacy, and that Perry misused the word "demagoguery" with regards to Trump. Oddly, he seems to have used it exactly as he should have.


Surprised he's not suing him for it.

I'm curious though, does Trump really need the Fox News deal? Wonder what his end game is for this candidacy. He doesn't really believe he has a chance to win, right? For as crazy as these people may seem, I doubt most of them are truly "idiots".
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Well, his approval/disapproval has basically reversed itself among Republicans so, whenever he bows out, he's at least spread his brand to a bunch of chumps.

I haven't been keeping up on whether or not he's actually tried to build a campaign apparatus. State campaign offices, volunteers for petitions to qualify for the ballot, all that sort of stuff. That would be a better indication of how serious he is. Speaking more generally, man, decent help has to be hard to find with 16+ candidates in the race. There's only so many decent campaign staff to be hired and go around.
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Back on Trump, the Huffington Post says that they will be reporting on Trump in the entertainment section of the website instead of the news/politics section.
As much of a joke as Trump is, that still seems unreasonable. Then again, Reagan would have probably gotten similar reactions if the twenty-four seven all access web clickbait networks existed back then.
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Salon, on the other hand, needs to fire their entire writing staff into the sun.
I found their op-ed argument that seeing Martin Luthor King Jr assassinated would be just as traumatic for Magneto as being in a concentration camp quite compelling.

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Salon, on the other hand, needs to fire their entire writing staff into the sun.
I found their op-ed argument that seeing Martin Luthor King Jr assassinated would be just as traumatic for Magneto as being in a concentration camp quite compelling.


That doesn't sound compelling at all.
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Note to prospective presidential candidates: insulting a veteran and former POW, specifically about his military service, regardless of his ideology, is not a great way to score political points.
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Note to prospective presidential candidates: insulting a veteran and former POW, specifically about his military service, regardless of his ideology, is not a great way to score political points.

Well, the response to his post seems overwhelmingly positive. Just a sampling off the top...
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Oathkeeper Martin tell me...as a Vet myself i want to know why in the HELL is our Flag NOT at half mast and half staff for the 5 slain American Servicemen/???
James Betenbough You are a hard nosed son of a gun and you offend the crap out of people, but you're honest. I like ya.
Eugene Gladsky As a Phoenician, I'm tired of McCain. Many of us are. How dare McCain call his own constituents 'crazies'? Thank you for speaking out and speaking up for us, Mr. Trump! McCain is a sad old man and it's time for him to retire.
Benjamin Ars Melon You speak your mind, and that's refreshing to see in politics. You can count on my vote in the primaries. Thank you for giving patriotic Americans of all backgrounds a voice!
Randon Loeb Stand your ground Donald J. Trump! Let these crybaby phonies expose themselves!
Elena Di Dear Mr Trump, I pray that Your Love for America and TRUTH continues to Lead you to VICTORY and Undo the evil Laws Forced upon us by this Anti-American Hoax president that mocked & disgraced the Courage and Virility of manhood in our nation! God bless you!
Larry Sybesma Present Administration has caused more unrest and moral decline than any other in the history of America.
Greg Hense-Dorroh I was a democrat thanks to you I'm a republican now or whatever you are, keep being awesome!!!
Irene Collier I agree with Trump.. All our military are heroes not just those who were captured... Donald Trump did not say anything wrong, matter of fact he said the truth.... Go Donald, you still have my support...
Rosemary Hartman As a disabled veteran, I appreciate & thank you for that!
Tim Brady Keep it up Donald Trump. Behind you 100%. So tired of politicians saying one thing and doing another or walking all around the question or not answering it at all. Stay strait and honest and speak your mind. Keep our vets in mind cause they the reason we still have what we have.
Chris Castleman Trump For President Of the United States of America. No one has ever done it as well as it is about to be done.
Jane L Stroede Senator McCain has unfortunately marred his own legacy with his own words and conduct, or lack there of over the past years. He has used his earned war hero status as both sword and shield...much like those who play the race card...and it has hurt him....See More
Ellen Renee' Shelton Donald, everyone is running scared of you and they are digging down into the bottom of their barrels to try to bash you! You stay strong and keep on doing exactly what you are doing! You are at the top and not them. I don't like McCain either because he threw the presidential race when he chose Palin to run with him. Keep on Donald!! Make America Great Again!! You can do it!!
Bud Chuplis I had expected more from him. Was very disappointed in him. If we can't have a vet I will be happy with a true PATRIOT that restores American PRIDE!!


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Elena Di seems a bit overwrought. That many caps and exclamation points do not bode well for her mental state.

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