Belkira wrote:
So, once one sperm fertilizes one egg, they will become a human being without need of assistance form me or anyone? If everyone just leaves it alone, it grows all by itself? Want to rethink that...?
I think that you don't even believe that stupidity. I'll give you credit to be smarter than that. "They" represents a sperm and an egg, not just a sperm. A sperm WILL NEVER grow into a child, never..
Belkira wrote:
But... I didn't. I just told you that if I had parents sh*tty enough to tell me as I was growing up that they wish they had aborted me, then I would've rather been aborted. Regardless, I'll ask my pregnant co-worker to have a meaningful conversation with her fetus tomorrow and find out what it feels about... well, anything. Something tells me that it won't be much of a conversation, but you seem to be implying that a fetus will be sad and hurt if the woman aborts it.
Interesting.
Are you purposely missing the point? You said your parents would be "************ if they told you that, why is that? Why would you care? They weren't talking about YOU, they were talking about a parasite, a tape worm. Why is there emotional attachment to that sentence?
Belkira wrote:
And I was talking about everything, not just the action. I'm being more logical, and more realistic than you are.
If this conversation were over everything, then you would have a point.
Belkira wrote:
No. It's actually based on any number of things, many of which have already been pointed out to you. I do find it interesting, however, that in your defense of yourself, in trying to explain just how wonderful you are and how much you respect women, you managed to blame women on your being single. Interesting, that. It certainly can't be some flaw in yourself, it's got to be just that "good guys finish last." Certainly....
Your entire argument is based on emotion. Your main argument is that you a woman shouldn't be FORCED to carry a child, but changes when a child gets a certain age. That doesn't make sense. There is no logic behind that because you're still forcing the woman to carry the child.
I don't blame women for being single. I could very well have a girlfriend right now or even be married, but I'm not going to have a "trophy wife" just to say that I'm married. There's nothing wrong with these girls, but they aren't what I want in a wife. So, that's a very nice try, but failure as always.
Oh, by the way, I didn't create the slogan "nice guys finish last", I just know it exists. By your statement, it seems that you don't quite understand it.
Sweetums wrote:
Man, I just can't stop thinking about that post. It's practically dripping with contempt. There's a reason I generally can't stand self-described "nice guys."
For one, I don't basically call my friends ****** up. "Effed up issues?" Really? Would you say that to her face? With absolute sincerity?
I don't refer to my friends in the detached, almost objectifying manner you seem to employ. "Pregnant female?" That's something you call an animal in a biology textbook.
I could probably write a book full of "sob stories", too. Anyone who has the most perfunctory relationship with another human being can do that. Well, I respect my friends enough to not label their problems (I'm sorry. "Effed up issues."), in such a dismissive manner, so I can't really say I relate.
I could also write about how I drove over 2000 miles in less than two days to help an old friend escape a miserable situation.
I could write about following a friend home after she had the nerve to stay out past 8:00 on a Saturday night without her boyfriend's permission. He had an unlicensed handgun, and the man loathed me. The only transgression I had committed was being there before he was. I'm not kidding; he would seriously try to keep her from seeing me because he thought she would cheat on him with me. He's explicitly said this.
If you aren't willing to stick your neck out for these women, and only pay lip service to their troubles while judging them behind their backs, you're only deluding yourself if you think these women are your friends. They're your source of validation.
1. What's your reason to hate "nice guys". I'm not self-described, I just acknowledge it. It's actually a flaw of being "too nice". Trust me, being in the Army, "nice" isn't always a good thing. That has always been feedback from people.
2. I said their issues were "effed up", not them. There is a HUGE difference in the two. Stuff happens to people, good or bad. That doesn't make you a bad person. Yes, I do tell them that, it's not like they don't already know. I often tell other stories that I think is worse than theirs just to show that it isn't the end of the world.
3. This is the freakin Internet, you don't know her. I said "pregnant woman", because that's how she was referenced earlier. If that offends you, then you my friend have some serious effed up issues as well.
4. I might have used different terms to represent their problems, but it doesn't change the fact that I'm always there.
