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lol no ****. Almost ran off to California with my High School sweet heart. Glad I didnt. When he came back he was one ****** up *************, besides that he awol when I found out he was cheating on me..... ******! Grr... do you know those people will threaten you if they think you might have the slightest idea where their missing marine is?
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Oh go @#%^ yourself before you start trying to analyze my train of thought.. it wont get you anywhere.
Very true, since you've yet to have a train of thought make it out of the station.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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My husband is airforce.
Him big man...many teeth! Bite hard! Make you hurt bad call me names!
I voted for the other guy.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120086/
anyone ever see this movie?
anyone ever see this movie?
cherrabwyn, i would like to know what ur husband's AFQT is, cus i "gaaauuuurantee" that mine is higher, but yes i'm ARMY, and yes most of us r dumb, that's why i joined(easier to advance in rank). and yes i am young(22) but am already an officer, and plan on making a carreer out of it. so by the time ur husband retires at the rank of a high SGT or low officer, i'll be a high officer making more than he has ever dreamed. and btw my old MOS before i went through ROTC was 98K(intel, company lvl, PFC) and am now an XO for that same battalion. so u and ur hubby have fun being less rich than me, hahahahahaha
Good for you. Life isn't all about money. The way things are going at the moment... if you live to see your retirement, I'll be surprised. Also, seeing as how you seem to think that I would be impressed by your $$$ leads me to believe you are either the most immature, self-centered, arrogant ******* that Uncle Sam ever hired, or the most ignorant. Then again most of the butter bars are. I would also like to ad that it is very doubtful your IQ would be even as high as a squirrels. So, dont feel bad if I laugh out loud at you, kk?
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and yes i am young(22) but am already an officer,
I would just like to clear something up that I'm kinda surprised no one pointed out.
Uh...Wrong. The south seceded from the union because the union was trying to force Industrialism down the south's throats. The south was strictly an agricultural industry area. The more the north came down saying "Build more factories!" the more the south would say "Shut the **** up and go home yall!"
Personally, I have no problem with the Confederate Flag. My problem does lie with those that want to put more into it than what's there. For instance, I remember my U.S. History teacher trying to teach the class that slavery was sole reason for the Civil War. One wasted class period and a ******** of resources later, I proved her otherwise. Damn did she hate me for that.
But it all really boils down to one simple rule: Perspective rules reality. That's it. People are going to believe what they believe because that's what they've accepted as reality. Whether it's that way by choice or conditioning.
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THe South was Traitors.. Plain and Simple.. If you want to get Political about it.. that's all it represnets.. Rebellion....
Uh...Wrong. The south seceded from the union because the union was trying to force Industrialism down the south's throats. The south was strictly an agricultural industry area. The more the north came down saying "Build more factories!" the more the south would say "Shut the **** up and go home yall!"
Personally, I have no problem with the Confederate Flag. My problem does lie with those that want to put more into it than what's there. For instance, I remember my U.S. History teacher trying to teach the class that slavery was sole reason for the Civil War. One wasted class period and a ******** of resources later, I proved her otherwise. Damn did she hate me for that.
But it all really boils down to one simple rule: Perspective rules reality. That's it. People are going to believe what they believe because that's what they've accepted as reality. Whether it's that way by choice or conditioning.
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Actually, doing anything against the "pagan" as far as removing items of possible religious significance would constitute religious discrimination. The confederate "flag" mentioned was, at the time, nothing more then a war banner. The confederation had several flags but did not accept that one as the "flag of the confederation". I had a good friend who was a southern history buff when I was stationed in Germany, the confederation did not stand for slavery, they had a bill in the works to make slavery illegal prior to the war, but put it on hold to keep the support of many rich slave owners.
The reason the north used the term "union" was that they believed the United States would need to be merged into one country with one government in order to survive, the south wanted to remain a loose confederation of states, similar to the UN in a way, where the states had all the power and the unified government was more of a treaty to work together to protect the sorvienity of each state. Should the south have won the right to remain as small independant countries within a shell of a government we would have seen much earlier exactly how little such a union could accomplish.
During my time in the military I saw many things that spoke of open racisim that were accepted because the ones saying or doing the thing were "minorities". Many times I saw symbols of "black power" or similar items ignored in walkthroughs while confederate symbols were ordered removed or hidden. One person was a collector of historical replicas, and had two opposing "racial" items sitting next to each other on a shelf, but was only told to remove the "white" version and was able to have that order revoked by the command when he explained the historical meaning and was able to show that he was a collector.
The main problem with any symbol is that everyone will see something different in it, I was once asked to keep a muslim prayer rug in a wall locker when not in use rather then hanging on my wall. I am not muslim, I have studdied the middle east for many years and have a few items purchased from visits to the area while assigned to the military.
My recommendation is not to go in to any meeting fighting, rather go in willing to explain your feelings on the symbol, be willing to place the item in a location that is not visible, such as in a closet or other location. Most important, keep your cool, I have had black NCOs call me "whitey" or other racist slang, and tell me that I could not know what it means to be descriminated against, yet by keeping calm while they showed who the real racist was I was able to get support of my supervisor and others to overturn what was termed "reverse racisim".
Loosing your temper when faced with racisim is easy, but it can be used as "proof" that you are the one who is racist. If you remain calm, polite, and respectful you can get more done, and sometimes even have those in higher positions placed under review. One racist black senior NCO was removed from his position because of me, he was loud and insulting while I was calm and respectful, his supervisor saw what happened and investigated without my knowledge. After finding similar problems being created for white soldiers by this NCO he was removed. It was only later that the supervisor told me how my professional demeanor under the NCO's verbal assaults had made him realize there was a problem.
The reason the north used the term "union" was that they believed the United States would need to be merged into one country with one government in order to survive, the south wanted to remain a loose confederation of states, similar to the UN in a way, where the states had all the power and the unified government was more of a treaty to work together to protect the sorvienity of each state. Should the south have won the right to remain as small independant countries within a shell of a government we would have seen much earlier exactly how little such a union could accomplish.
During my time in the military I saw many things that spoke of open racisim that were accepted because the ones saying or doing the thing were "minorities". Many times I saw symbols of "black power" or similar items ignored in walkthroughs while confederate symbols were ordered removed or hidden. One person was a collector of historical replicas, and had two opposing "racial" items sitting next to each other on a shelf, but was only told to remove the "white" version and was able to have that order revoked by the command when he explained the historical meaning and was able to show that he was a collector.
The main problem with any symbol is that everyone will see something different in it, I was once asked to keep a muslim prayer rug in a wall locker when not in use rather then hanging on my wall. I am not muslim, I have studdied the middle east for many years and have a few items purchased from visits to the area while assigned to the military.
My recommendation is not to go in to any meeting fighting, rather go in willing to explain your feelings on the symbol, be willing to place the item in a location that is not visible, such as in a closet or other location. Most important, keep your cool, I have had black NCOs call me "whitey" or other racist slang, and tell me that I could not know what it means to be descriminated against, yet by keeping calm while they showed who the real racist was I was able to get support of my supervisor and others to overturn what was termed "reverse racisim".
Loosing your temper when faced with racisim is easy, but it can be used as "proof" that you are the one who is racist. If you remain calm, polite, and respectful you can get more done, and sometimes even have those in higher positions placed under review. One racist black senior NCO was removed from his position because of me, he was loud and insulting while I was calm and respectful, his supervisor saw what happened and investigated without my knowledge. After finding similar problems being created for white soldiers by this NCO he was removed. It was only later that the supervisor told me how my professional demeanor under the NCO's verbal assaults had made him realize there was a problem.
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THe South was Traitors.. Plain and Simple.. If you want to get Political about it.. that's all it represnets.. Rebellion....
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Uh...Wrong. The south seceded from the union because the union was trying to force Industrialism down the south's throats. The south was strictly an agricultural industry area. The more the north came down saying "Build more factories!" the more the south would say "Shut the @#%^ up and go home yall!"
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THe South was Traitors.. Plain and Simple.. If you want to get Political about it.. that's all it represnets.. Rebellion....
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Uh...Wrong. The south seceded from the union because the union was trying to force Industrialism down the south's throats. The south was strictly an agricultural industry area. The more the north came down saying "Build more factories!" the more the south would say "Shut the @#%^ up and go home yall!"
traitor
1. One who violates his allegiance and betrays his country; one guilty of treason; one who, in breach of trust, delivers his country to an enemy, or yields up any fort or place intrusted to his defense, or surrenders an army or body of troops to the enemy, unless when vanquished; also, one who takes arms and levies war against his country; or one who aids an enemy in conquering his country. See Treason.
....so if I'm the Governor of Alaska or somthing I decide that the country is unfair in rounding up Al Qaida members, and want to make Alaska a "terror free" state and allow all terror suspects to live here in peace..... AND TAKING UP ARMS AGAINST the rest of the country to defend this.... EVEN arming my citizens in an armed REBELLION against the established Federal Authority....
These are not Traitor-ish acts.... Rebelious acts?
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A lot of politically incorrect stuff takes place all over when you are "behind the scenes" and anyone that doesn't realize that lives in Smash's neighborhood. About 12 years ago when I was stationed in Korea I had a sports illustrated calendar on the back of my office door for 6 months and all the female soldiers new it was there, but never said anything. Then a new female soldier came in and saw it after being in the unit for about 2 weeks and complained to the first sergeant that the poster was demeaning to women. So I was asked to take the calendar down, which I did with with a bit of griping of only one person complaining. The reply was that all it takes is for one person to be offended and the calendar or what ever other object had to be removed.
You are at work. Why the hell would you need a swimsuit model calendar at work? Why would you even think that's acceptable? Do you have professional integrity at all? It's pretty common sense that you shouldn't put up partially clad women or men at your workplace. That's what a home is for, ******* (didn't want to end in a preposition). If I were in your office, I'd have asked for you to take it down as well. There's no place for it there. Just because you enjoy something doesn't make it okay for everyone else. What you do at home is your business but what you do in the workplace affects all of your co-workers.
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The crux of the story is that a few days later a buddy of mine, this female soldier who ******* about my calendar and I where driving to the ville. This was the first time I was socializing with this soldier and she was the most foul mouthed, sexist, soldier I ever met. When I asked her about the calendar after a few beers, she told me that what happened in uniform was different than what she was like off duty. She told me she had a professional demeanor to portray on duty and demanded an "equal" environment, what happened off duty was different. To this day the hypocracy still grates on my nerves. But for the sake of unit cohesion, morale and esprit d'corps the calendar had to come down. That was a really good year to.
She's got the right attitude. Act like a professional at work and do what you want at home. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? Your behavior on your job should reflect professionalism.
I really don't understand you at all, Stok. Can you really be this stupid or is it a clever front to lull us before you deliver the knockout punch?
Grady
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix, angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machin ery of night.
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first of all tarv your an idiot, u pretty much have to have a college education to become an officer, and i haven't seen too many 19 year olds graduating from college, have u?
and thanks cherabwyn, now there's even have my own anti-me avitar
i love being an dumb-*** on here it relieves stress!!
oh and btw, my "butter-bars" as u so eloquently stated could kick ur ***,lol......."butter sticks a jab, an upper cut, oh no some one turned up the heat, the butter seems to be melting. what's this there's an oak leaf standing in it's place. javelinsjavelin picks up the leaf and throws it like a shuriken, cutting chera's hubby's rank off of his uniform" the reason i bring this up is that i am a major and my Bat CO is going to leave soon, and he already told me that i'm gonna get the job
and the way things r going i'll be here a long *** time, my battalion collects internal intel(kinda like the FBI) so no funeral in the near future for me!
and thanks cherabwyn, now there's even have my own anti-me avitar
i love being an dumb-*** on here it relieves stress!!
oh and btw, my "butter-bars" as u so eloquently stated could kick ur ***,lol......."butter sticks a jab, an upper cut, oh no some one turned up the heat, the butter seems to be melting. what's this there's an oak leaf standing in it's place. javelinsjavelin picks up the leaf and throws it like a shuriken, cutting chera's hubby's rank off of his uniform" the reason i bring this up is that i am a major and my Bat CO is going to leave soon, and he already told me that i'm gonna get the job
and the way things r going i'll be here a long *** time, my battalion collects internal intel(kinda like the FBI) so no funeral in the near future for me!
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and the way things r going i'll be here a long *** time, my battalion collects internal intel(kinda like the FBI) so no funeral in the near future for me!
Really, which one?
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
oh and whoever rated me UP, please stop! i'm trying to hit 0.00, so rate me down if u like my statements/ rants
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....so if I'm the Governor of Alaska or somthing I decide that the country is unfair in rounding up Al Qaida members, and want to make Alaska a "terror free" state and allow all terror suspects to live here in peace..... AND TAKING UP ARMS AGAINST the rest of the country to defend this.... EVEN arming my citizens in an armed REBELLION against the established Federal Authority....
These are not Traitor-ish acts.... Rebelious acts?
These are not Traitor-ish acts.... Rebelious acts?
Not if the association with the union has been dissolved. The conflict arose because the Southern states believed they had the right to secede, and the Northern states did not.
A better analogy might be: you divorce your wife. She is Catholic and does not accept the divorce as being valid, but you do. You then have sex with another woman. Have you cheated on your wife? You'd say no, she'd say yes.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
good point
such a tangled web..... is my mind
such a tangled web..... is my mind
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first of all tarv your an idiot, u pretty much have to have a college education to become an officer, and i haven't seen too many 19 year olds graduating from college, have u?
2. Officers regardless of age are only respected when they attually achive rank not 'In 10 years i might be a Captian'
3. My Divisional officer joined up at 16 as an officer so stop talking out of your **** boy.
4. Respect your betters we are called the SENIOR service for a reason.
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4. Respect your betters we are called the SENIOR service for a reason.
You're in the Navy, the British one, right? Does that mean that Village People songs have to wait until tea time before booming from the loudspeakers? Or is it an all night "long" kinda thing?
I can't help it. I love to make fun of the navy. It's just such a big target.
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You're in the Navy, the British one, right? Does that mean that Village People songs have to wait until tea time before booming from the loudspeakers? Or is it an all night "long" kinda thing?
i'm not presuming to know more 'bout it than u....what was it sir or maam(prolly sarg) but i've never seen any officer's below the age of 20, true that the young ones did enlist as officers, but only because of ROTC all the other ways to enlist as an officer r generally way too hard for anyone(including me) but i would like to meet ur "divisional officer" which ever position he holds, lets see division...is he a colonel? is he the CO,XO, a staff, etc. whatever the case i would like to meet him if i havn't already, because this is one smart dude( like doogy houser) and he must be one hell of a leader and i could definately learn from him
'E's British, you tool. Nothing makes sense over there. They drive on the wrong side of the damn road, and they call soccer football.
and to smash i'm doing some work(well not really me, but i check over the work) on a few oddball's that our battalion has been ordered to watch in a certain P.O.W. prison where al queda members r being held(since before Iraq) if that give's u enough clues. if not i suggest asking ur local senator or congressman/woman for any further info
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what was it sir or maam(prolly sarg)
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which ever position he holds, lets see division...is he a colonel? is he the CO,XO,
He is a Lt Cdr.
Present age and educational requirements for a Royal Navy Officer.
WOW, u guys allow ppl in very young!!! we try to encourage our enlistees to be graduated from high school, or 17 w/ a GED(equivilency)but most of the time(95% or more) they r 18 or older. so according to that, u can be a terrorist and still be in the RN/RM. weird. but i'm not gonna argue w/ u about your guy's system 'cause i don't know it well
nope it's still sir/maam if u r an officer(no matter the natioanlity(unless strictly guidelined by commanding officers))
LtCdr i do understand, generally(just to let u know) we don't have that rank in the U.S. army
and i don't know how u guys run ur divisional system(because the term divisional system is different from a division), but ours goes unit(the individual), squad, platoon, company,battalion, etc. also, here a Div CO is called a general, a battalion CO is a Colonel, i beleive a company CO is a captain, etc.
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what was it sir or maam(prolly sarg)
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That LEADER to you junior
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That LEADER to you junior
nope it's still sir/maam if u r an officer(no matter the natioanlity(unless strictly guidelined by commanding officers))
LtCdr i do understand, generally(just to let u know) we don't have that rank in the U.S. army
and i don't know how u guys run ur divisional system(because the term divisional system is different from a division), but ours goes unit(the individual), squad, platoon, company,battalion, etc. also, here a Div CO is called a general, a battalion CO is a Colonel, i beleive a company CO is a captain, etc.
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