Let me start off by saying this is not a rant but more like me not understanding why certain choices are made.
Well i always read the "Goodbye, Leaving the game, or 'To whoever cares' threads. These are the threads where ppl say that they are leaving the game and why they are leaving. I can completely understand ppl wanting to let friends know they are leaving the game and saying goodbye to everyone even if they didnt know them. We can then give them a /salute and a goodluck it was nice knowing you =)What i fail to understand is the reasons why ppl quit the game.
Here are some reasons that i can understand leaving the game for (not limited to only these:
1) The person can no longer afford to pay to play the game.
2) The game is no longer fun for you.
3) Parents/guardians feel you shouldnt play the game anymore
(nothing u can do about that but plea to them)
4) I am being deployed somewhere (military).
5) I dont have time to play cause of work/family.
Here are the reasons we mostly likely get in the "Goodbye Thread"
1) I spend too much time on the game.
2) The game is consuming my life.
3) I dont spend enough time with RL friends.
4) My grades are dropping.
Those are the two basic classes of reasons we get. Now what i am saying is that maybe we need to exam this second class of reasons. If you look closely u will see that all them involve them spending too much time on the game. In my opinion they are running from or not realizing the real problem. It seems to me these ppl need to learn moderation and "spending time wisely" more then quiting the game. All the problems in the second class can be fixed by spending less time on the game and not quiting it.
By not fixing the problem you are guaranteed to run into it again later in life. It can be another game or just about anything that u spend ALL your time doing and not doing what you are suppose to be doing.
I offer this advice to anyone thinking of quiting.
First realized whether u are quiting because of a need or because you spend all your time neglecting certain aspects of your life. If it is the second one then you need to limit your time on the game and completely cut yourself off from it. Learn to stop playing and do the needs that you have been neglecting first. Take time out to do other things like homework, housework, hanging with friends, lol whatever it is u feel that u havent been doing cause u having been playing. Please dont pansie out and quit continuing the circle of you running from the problem. And yes i can understand that limiting play can be hard but come one either u are an adult or growing into one either way u NEED to learn moderation and "Spending your time wisely".
Maybe i dont understand something? If you feel i have left something out or am just wrong let me know and let me know why?
I am not trying to start an argument, just trying to let ppl see this problem or let me know why i do not understand it.
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I don't think it's for anyone to judge others' reasons for quitting. Quitting a game...it's a GAME. Who cares why they left, it's their call to make. Good luck, take care, keep in touch and all that, but quit if you feel you have to. RL > any game.
Think what you'd like, but quitting is quitting, and I don't see the point of judging their reasons behind it.
(Not meant as a flame, but I just don't think the way you do, obviously.) :P
Think what you'd like, but quitting is quitting, and I don't see the point of judging their reasons behind it.
(Not meant as a flame, but I just don't think the way you do, obviously.) :P
I know someone that was given the choice of College and Work or Playing FFXI. Well, they quit school as well as thier job and got a character to level 75. Some people are just a waste on society. Leaving the game for declining grades is a mature and healthy desicion and in the long run, will benefit a person more then a high level cartoon in a video game.
I am without words...
Add:
FFXI is way too over-rated... Much worse than sports stars, heh at least they are working for a living.
I do not want to know who give in job and school for a game....
Edited, Tue Oct 4 13:57:35 2005 by scchan
Add:
FFXI is way too over-rated... Much worse than sports stars, heh at least they are working for a living.
I do not want to know who give in job and school for a game....
Edited, Tue Oct 4 13:57:35 2005 by scchan
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
I have to say that I think the OP was misunderstood. My understanding of the intention was people need to be in control enough of their own lives to be able to better balance the two. More that people should be smart enough to not let their lives suffer because of a video game.
Back to OP...
I used to play FF like crazy, but I cannot anymore. One thing I hate FF is that take way too much time to get things done... And if I quit FF, that would be main reason -- I cannot find time to do what I want to do.
I am tempted to stop by EB or Bestbuy to pick up a copy of WoW... Too bad I hate WoW's graphics... FF characters are more of my taste...
I used to play FF like crazy, but I cannot anymore. One thing I hate FF is that take way too much time to get things done... And if I quit FF, that would be main reason -- I cannot find time to do what I want to do.
I am tempted to stop by EB or Bestbuy to pick up a copy of WoW... Too bad I hate WoW's graphics... FF characters are more of my taste...
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
...Those who quit this game are making the best decisions of thier life...those who play in moderation do not have to worry about self destruction..nor a degenerating social life..
I think that's what he was trying to say. I'm not really defending anyone, I just felt that people maybe read into the post too much.
Maybe it's my low tolerance for stupidity that caused me to read his post how I did, and maybe I'm COMPLETELY wrong (it wouldn't be the first time LoL) but I took it as a general disgust for people that let a game ruin their life.
Maybe it's my low tolerance for stupidity that caused me to read his post how I did, and maybe I'm COMPLETELY wrong (it wouldn't be the first time LoL) but I took it as a general disgust for people that let a game ruin their life.
IMO there is nothing wrong in reading a post in a deep way or the way that is "not intend to" as everyone have the right the way they think. In fact, that is a GOOD thing. If everyone think the same way... that would suck...
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Misinterpreting is normal. Flaming because you misunderstood is not right. Everyone has the right to express themselves but should respect others when they choose to voice their opinion. There's no need to berate someone, especially because something was misread/misinterpreted.
If you disagree, that's fine, express yourself without attacking the other people. Nobody is trying to make everyone else think the same way they do (that I see anyways). Common respect should be used though. We can have an open debate without it being someone is an idiot or so and so doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.
If you disagree, that's fine, express yourself without attacking the other people. Nobody is trying to make everyone else think the same way they do (that I see anyways). Common respect should be used though. We can have an open debate without it being someone is an idiot or so and so doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.
Quote:
If you disagree, that's fine, express yourself without attacking the other people.
When people disagree with you, they are not neccessary a personal thing... Nor it is someone presenting an idea you do not believe.
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
My love of one person drove me to ruin my life, not this game.... and that one person you ask. Why it is Leetfade of course.....
Why won't you marry me Leet? Elvaan Paladin, love you long time! I am so much cooler and sexier then that Abancai guy you are always hanging out with, what must I do to prove my love!!!!
Snootchie Bootchies. :P
Why won't you marry me Leet? Elvaan Paladin, love you long time! I am so much cooler and sexier then that Abancai guy you are always hanging out with, what must I do to prove my love!!!!
Snootchie Bootchies. :P
o.O
Hey Marry me instead ;p I am looking for any sexy hume or tarutarus ;p
Hey Marry me instead ;p I am looking for any sexy hume or tarutarus ;p
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
But everyone knows Ohio is for Lovers....
At least Hawthorne Heights says so....
(Shamless plug for a good band, check them out.)
and Amanada, I am Elvaan.... no cute taru or sexy Hume here ;;
At least Hawthorne Heights says so....
(Shamless plug for a good band, check them out.)
and Amanada, I am Elvaan.... no cute taru or sexy Hume here ;;
Elvaan... /sigh
I hate my Elvaan mule so much.... If you ever seen Damolautane (my mule) running in San D'oria, slap her plz. Elvaan emotes are so ... eh weird ;p.
I hate my Elvaan mule so much.... If you ever seen Damolautane (my mule) running in San D'oria, slap her plz. Elvaan emotes are so ... eh weird ;p.
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Ok now i'm just skerred. LoL
Ama, I wasn't saying that all posts were derogatory. There are just a few that were just on the lines of "You are wrong for thinking that" which I don't agree with. I'm just one that believes in an intelligent debate vs. a flame war.
Ama, I wasn't saying that all posts were derogatory. There are just a few that were just on the lines of "You are wrong for thinking that" which I don't agree with. I'm just one that believes in an intelligent debate vs. a flame war.
Leet touched my "Tra La La" the other night in the Den of Rancor.
:O
:O
i am appalled.
no, not the OP.
about the affair going on between leet and dahl, however one-sided. poor aba... =p
no, not the OP.
about the affair going on between leet and dahl, however one-sided. poor aba... =p
Someone should have informed me. O.o LoL. Someone should have also informed me about me and Aba. wtf?? LoL. I thought I was engaged to Sabelle and just flirted with Callista.
Hey man, if someone hopped me up on opo opo juice and took incriminating pics of me passed out I need to find them. LoL
And where the hell have you been, Enthuz? LoL
Hey man, if someone hopped me up on opo opo juice and took incriminating pics of me passed out I need to find them. LoL
And where the hell have you been, Enthuz? LoL
Since this thread has turned into exploring in our homosexual desires..
Well of course Dahl, Leet, Enthuz, and Ama, ended up cheating on me.
Eat at Joes.
Well of course Dahl, Leet, Enthuz, and Ama, ended up cheating on me.
Eat at Joes.
>.>
Man is this thread ever going to be misunderstood. LoL
Man is this thread ever going to be misunderstood. LoL
I think everyone will realize, this is the weekly tear apart a random post with nonsense after asnwering the question posed. I am surprised that Krem hasn't jumped in this yet. El, had I know you had such strong feelings for me, you could bazaar with me in Port Jueno. I don't like to keep my greatness to just myself, everyone can have a piece.
Jeez i need to troll Alla more often... Even if Leet had a hot elvaan sister i'd pass.. I'm all hume. even though i've been know to slum with a mithra from time to time.. but i sware she told me she was 19. ;)
Back to the OP:
I'm a very strong supporter of the Agree to Disagree choice. I've known people that have quit because the game took over their RL. There has been many situations myself where the tension or drama in this game has directly carried over into my RL. Now, i'm not taking it out on my RL friends... but it definately has added stress to my daily activities.
I can understand ppl quiting or taking a long break because RL get's to hectic. School, Family, Work... all these things should be respected higher than my 010100100100 life.
I wouldn't say the person is weak because they have trouble balancing their game and real life. Some people have a very addictive personality. Personally, I am not a huge fan of excuses.
All that know me know how much i play this game. I've been playing for about 1 1/2 years and have a little over 80 game days logged. On top of this I've started my own business in february of 2005 and a new band in november of 2004. I work 5 days a week from 9-5 and practice 3 days a week from 6-10. On top of all that i've managed to get a lvl70 Blm, Rank 10 and advancing in ZM and CoP missions.
It's all about the person and their ability to know how to manage thier own life.
Back to the OP:
I'm a very strong supporter of the Agree to Disagree choice. I've known people that have quit because the game took over their RL. There has been many situations myself where the tension or drama in this game has directly carried over into my RL. Now, i'm not taking it out on my RL friends... but it definately has added stress to my daily activities.
I can understand ppl quiting or taking a long break because RL get's to hectic. School, Family, Work... all these things should be respected higher than my 010100100100 life.
I wouldn't say the person is weak because they have trouble balancing their game and real life. Some people have a very addictive personality. Personally, I am not a huge fan of excuses.
All that know me know how much i play this game. I've been playing for about 1 1/2 years and have a little over 80 game days logged. On top of this I've started my own business in february of 2005 and a new band in november of 2004. I work 5 days a week from 9-5 and practice 3 days a week from 6-10. On top of all that i've managed to get a lvl70 Blm, Rank 10 and advancing in ZM and CoP missions.
It's all about the person and their ability to know how to manage thier own life.
leet: been around, just... not as around as i should be. i'd like to blame work, but that's just an excuse. i just didn't feel the need to pop on ffxi as often as i had been before, and at night, after a hard day's work of staring at the screen, it's usually not a very good idea to go home just to stare at the screen again. =)
el: eh!? i didn't! ... wait... some of it is coming back to me... i saw... an elva... wait, hume... no, taru... err... mithra... well, i remember SOMETHING happening. =)
OP: ok, now that i have a bit of time, just a comment or two.
tell a smoker to quit, or a drug-abuser to quit. actually, just tell someone who stutters to quit. we all have our own quirks and addictions and not all are harmful to us. based on this premise, however, there are ones who really need to be cut off entirely from the addiction before actual harm DOES or CONTINUES to happen. this holds true for the most mundane things even, like chocolate, coffee, work *shudder*, and yes, even games.
comment1: in these cases, the "excuse" really isn't an excuse, but more of a reason.
what if these "excuses" really ARE excuses? what if these things that they list as "reasons" could be solved with a little change in mindset?
comment2: "reasons" vs "excuses" seems very like "good" vs "evil"--open to interpretation. but, it is their choice to quit, just like it is anyone's choice to continue playing.
el: eh!? i didn't! ... wait... some of it is coming back to me... i saw... an elva... wait, hume... no, taru... err... mithra... well, i remember SOMETHING happening. =)
OP: ok, now that i have a bit of time, just a comment or two.
tell a smoker to quit, or a drug-abuser to quit. actually, just tell someone who stutters to quit. we all have our own quirks and addictions and not all are harmful to us. based on this premise, however, there are ones who really need to be cut off entirely from the addiction before actual harm DOES or CONTINUES to happen. this holds true for the most mundane things even, like chocolate, coffee, work *shudder*, and yes, even games.
comment1: in these cases, the "excuse" really isn't an excuse, but more of a reason.
what if these "excuses" really ARE excuses? what if these things that they list as "reasons" could be solved with a little change in mindset?
comment2: "reasons" vs "excuses" seems very like "good" vs "evil"--open to interpretation. but, it is their choice to quit, just like it is anyone's choice to continue playing.
My parents made me quit!
And...
http://www.purevolume.com/hawthorneheights
Just so everyone can see that Dahl is right.
Edited, Mon Oct 10 10:57:30 2005 by Luciendarr
And...
http://www.purevolume.com/hawthorneheights
Just so everyone can see that Dahl is right.
Edited, Mon Oct 10 10:57:30 2005 by Luciendarr
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