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#1 Sep 28 2005 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
I'm posting this to warn you of a selfish, spoiled, and rude player named Ruca on Cerberus.

I'd never met this person before last night. She asked me to party (as my 71 PLD) and I gladly accepted. The party layout was BRD, RDM, BLM, WAR(her), MNK, and PLD(me). We headed off to Ro'Maeve to fight Weapons in Moon (the party was JP by the way, with Ruca knowing a bit of English).

Well the actual party went pretty well...a little more than 5K xp per hour or so, and little down time. I was excited because I only had 12K until 72 at the start of the party.

So what happens?

Well when I'm about 3K tnl, she says they will be disbanding in about 15 minutes because she has work. It sucks, but no big deal...work happens, I understand that.

15 minutes go by and we continue partying...I think to myself "cool! They are going to stay for my level ^^".

Not long afterwards (5-10 minutes), I am about 2K tnl, and she says "last chain" in the translator. I again get dissapointed...but I know people have busy schedules so I just say "@2K ^^;".

But no, this wasn't about schedules.

On Chain 4 guess what? Ruca gains level 70, and she says "Disbanding Party" immediately afterwards...I am 1.1K tnl...one chain. Amazing how her work starts right after she levels huh?

She wasn't staying for me to level, she was only staying for herself. It takes all kinds to stick around for 12K XP, then immediately leave when you level regardless of how close other people are. The "Time for work" excuse was bullshi[i][/i]t.

As many people would be, I was livid. She'd made up an excuse to leave immediately after she leveled. I couldn't believe people that were this ******* selfish actually made it to 70. As she was asking for D2, I disbanded the pt, did a /angry, and warped myself with a scroll (it was late to be looking for a replace). Afterwards I /tell'd her saying "{Black list} {You can have this}". She only responded with "ty". After which I of course /blist'd her.

So be warned: Ruca will get what she wants from a party and leave when it suits her. Your XP needed to level doesn't mean a damn thing. Avoid this person like a diseased monkey, she isn't far from it.

Still 1.1K tnl....grrr >_<.
#2 Sep 28 2005 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
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/sigh........ I think I know who Ruca is.

I have PT disbanded with me 200-300 exp from level, and PT disbanding (for whatever reason -- lame or reasonable) after someone levels is not something really that uncommon. I think everyone have a fair share of such situations. Try not take that too seriously ^^ Just chill down.
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#3 Sep 28 2005 at 12:13 PM Rating: Default
That sucks man...I vote that Ruca be racked and quartered. Kidding, obviously. Amanada...you are seriously the most level-headed optimist I've ever seen on these forums. As much as I don't understand it...kudos. You're a little ray of sunshine. No sarcasm, by the way. I've been on the *** end of mispercieved sarcasm before, but no more.
#4 Sep 28 2005 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Death to "negativism" (Yay I joined the langauge used by my Presdient!)

It is a game, just chill and have fun. Don't take things too seriously. Weather is awesome today in DC, may be everyone should check it out :D
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Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
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#5 Sep 28 2005 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
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Look at it this way, Chances are he/she will be visiting 69 again and there is a good chance you will not since your next party will get you 2k+. he/she is proablly not high enough with XP to have an R3 with moghnacement XP save his/her level.

I know I hate "just" getting a level cause as most people know, I am extremely helpful and I die alot doing so. I can't count the Number of times I begged Samiex to come give me an R3 just to save my level 70. Damnable HkTk eyes. ><

Get a party tonight, nail that level 70 and get insurance, you'll be much happier that way, then watching your self delevel and losing gear that you couldn't wear at 69. ^^ Peace.
#6 Sep 28 2005 at 1:57 PM Rating: Decent
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I love Dahlgren's altitude. <3

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Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand

A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
#7 Sep 28 2005 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
Hmmm. Ruca is a good friend of mine, and is a member of PM. She is a JP player, and I think there was only a misunderstanding here. As long as I have known Ruca she has been nothing less than helpful and kind. I believe some of this may have been taken out of context, and we're only getting one side of the story.

But don't you dare be immature and just take one side of a story and form an opinion. That's irresponsible and childish.

What some people don't understand are the cultural differnces in ways of thinking. IN JP pt's, if someone has to go, someone has to go.

Now to be objective about this; there were 5 other's ( including yourself ) there, why is it only Ruca's fault you didn't get your 1.1k? You didn't look for a replacement? How do you know Ruca wasn't looking for a replacement and couldn't find one? Maybe she just neglected to inform you she couldn't find a replacement.

Don't be childish. And don't make player warning posts about something as trivial as this. You make yourself look like an ***. And you're the one that sounds spoiled, rude and selfish. Grow up.

Edited, Wed Sep 28 16:33:29 2005 by confucion

Edited, Wed Sep 28 16:28:43 2005 by confucion

Edited, Wed Sep 28 16:35:24 2005 by confucion
#8 Sep 30 2005 at 12:28 PM Rating: Default
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I find it amusing that you'll make an enitre post about this when you are level 71 and this kind of thing happens and has happened to everyone since the Dunes.

What you need to do is stop crying, EXP with your party of five or heaven forbid, solo low EP mobs for a whole 1k EXP, and grow the fu[b][/b]ck up.
#9 Sep 30 2005 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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This should help you out when you are close to leveling. It works well for me.

Think of being close to level as being a very big exp buffer. Unless you're camping an HNM, there is no way in hell you could delvl with 36,000 or so xp into lvl.

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The "Time for work" excuse was *********


And this is where I disagree. It could be used as a lie, but it's not wise to be late for work because someone needs thier level. This in itself is being selfish on your part.

#10 Sep 30 2005 at 3:42 PM Rating: Excellent
imo, WORK IRL > game, so if the player really had to go to work then he HAD to go to work, regardless of how close you are to leveling. if given the choice of being late for work (work which supplies me money so i can play this game) just so that you can get your level and face possible issues at work OR bail when i HAVE to bail and get in on time for work, well sorry dude, i am no way going to stay.

this would be different IF the person used the "Time for Work!" excuse then you see him/her in another xp pt, or mission etc.

i always try to give at least a 30 min warning before i bail on a pt - (although last 2 weeks ago my ISP or POL- can't really be sure i was a DC/can't reconnect/POL error 1502 magnet ><).

The situation still sucks, however the only person getting stressed is you. just carry on doing your thing and get your next round of xp. 1k is roughly a single chain 5 or less so you should get in the first round of your pt.

this game is supposed to be fun ^^.



#11 Sep 30 2005 at 6:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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i can sympathize with u as everyone else here prob can and has had the same problem before. But i dont think the "time for work" comment was automatically BS. I know i have a job and i have been late plenty of times cause i was like 400tnl or 1k tnl. I tell myself that i will go after i level. I guess it is a little selfish to leave when u level and not stay for someone else. I have stayed sometimes and have been late for other ppls levels if i can.

But come on be happy u are 1.1k tnl an idiot party of bad players can get 1k. Plus you are a damn pld lol u prob got a party as soon as u got on the next day. Dont be so quick to Blacklist ppl, esp if the person hasnt been rude to you. But lol i can understand u were probably really pissed at the time pretty sure u will cool down or have cooled down.
#12 Sep 30 2005 at 9:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Let's not turn this thread into a flame.... FFXI is darn game. Why hurry to level? If you have fun, and have a good PT, just take it, and go home with a high note and be happy. Why get so worked up about the details.

Some of the posters presented the idea "When you gtg, you gtg" in a litte too direct manner, but I agree with that. If someone gtg, just let them go for whatever reason. You can never proof someone is leaving because of a BS, a lie, or truth. Then let it be that way, and think you have a fun time, and be happy.

IMO, Too many players take the game way too personally nowadays. And hence this leads so much unneccessary dramas and anger. Just have fun, and be patient. Why rush in a game? Why get angry in a game? Why gossip BS about another player? If you don't like someone, just leave them be. No need to talk around to others -- that is why I hate those "Who is good? Who is bad?" threads.

End of my words -- i will speak no more. And rate up to TimtakerXs and Emil -- that is the right altitude everyone should learn from
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#13 Sep 30 2005 at 9:35 PM Rating: Default
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V--Oh you post so fast.

Edited, Fri Sep 30 22:55:28 2005 by Zaleshea
#14 Sep 30 2005 at 9:37 PM Rating: Decent
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<3 Zaleshea

/sigh

I really feel that there got to be better things to do than ranting about a game....
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Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand

A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
#15 Sep 30 2005 at 9:48 PM Rating: Default
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And I had edited that with something else, but nevermind >_>(I need to stop editing.)

#16 Oct 02 2005 at 12:47 AM Rating: Decent
Im sorry but I just couldnt help myself.

You mean to tell me that you come here to post about someone leaveing a party right after they lvl? You post a player warning (which im not a fan of anyway) about them? Let me understand something.... all the exp you got up until the "@2k tnl" did that not count for anything? When on the clock you get exp they get exp its all exp and dispersed according to how the game was programmed. No one cheated anyone or did anyone wrong here. Dont come crying to the forums because you didnt lvl and they did....... you still have the exp from the party dont you? Well then your only 2k tnl and can get a solid buffer next time right?

People take this game way too personally and it becomes overly political.

By the way, most JP's ive partyed with always let you know that they are leaveing just before the last chain so Im not surprised at that.
#17 Oct 03 2005 at 6:25 AM Rating: Default
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HOLY CRAP!!! (If I may take a line from Everybody Loves Raymond lol..... I got rated down for calling someone a baby!!!

Let me set the people strait that did the rate down real quick everyone else that this does not pertain to ignore this post because your normal.

The problem in the world today are people like the ones who love to rate down. Your looking for all the political correctness and never want to hurt someones feelings. Why is this a problem you ask? When right is right, and wrong is wrong you call the shots by them being right or wrong... there is no in between. If your not man/woman enouph to recognize that then your liveing in an imagined world, a fairy tale. Without a voice of what is right and wrong and standing up for that you/we become weak.

So if you feel that I was politically incorrect and that my opinion on the above post was not generally accepted call me Rush Limbaugh and smack me silly with rate downs.. Better yet be a man and tell me why. Oh I forgot that would put you in the same boat as me.
#18 Oct 03 2005 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
I'm willing to bet all my gil it's the OP nuking people's karma because he got caught being a punk and crying himself to sleep when he was in the wrong rubbing his **** on Alla over this.

What a little *****.
#19 Oct 03 2005 at 5:09 PM Rating: Default
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I'm willing to bet all my gil it's the OP nuking people's karma because he got caught being a punk and crying himself to sleep when he was in the wrong rubbing his **** on Alla over this.

What a little *****.


Its cool confucion... As I see it karma rateings = a popularity contest. Between you and me the lower my karma the better when it comes to it from this point of view. Never let me be seen as one that simply tries to appease and stroke someones ego or in this case to pat the back of someone that wants to complain and start an entire thread on a innocent player that did nothing wrong and post it as a player warning... you better believe I will step up to defend them because they are not here to do it themselfs. So if they want to rate me down go for it. NEVER let it be said that I do not give an honest opinion or assesment of any situation. If you ask me for an opinion it will be the truth.

When someone comes here to the boards to rail on someone that cannot defend themselfs by being here (they are JP we dont even know if they speak good english much less hang out in NA forums) my friend your a wimp. In short if you want to make it a personal issue send me a pm from here on out we can take care of business.... if your man/woman enouph.

As to the rest of the posters on allakhazam you can be sure that if I know you and know you as a good person I will back you up 100% and defend you from idiot trolls like the OP.
#20 Oct 03 2005 at 6:32 PM Rating: Default
Ya, you're right Jav. The only thing is, if I didn't know Ruca personally ( which I do, she is JP, speaks decent english, and is in my LS ), I probably wouldn't have poked my nose in here. And it was nice to see a few people didn't just jump on the bandwagon. But things like this really ruin the credibility of real player warning threads, because you usually just get one side of the story when there are always three. =/
#21 Oct 04 2005 at 6:11 AM Rating: Decent
Playing Devil's Advocate here, I have in the past really had to go due to schedules and realising I was close to levelling hang on a little bit longer (making myself late) just to get my level.

Now I know this then may look like disbanding after levelling but it could be already being half hour plus over scheduled time to leave. From your post she did warn you the party was disbanding in 15 minutes and it went longer than that so she may have been doing that just hanging on and then having to rush to get to work (possibly late)
#22 Oct 04 2005 at 7:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I do not rate down people for the opinion, but rate down in the way it is presented. Everyone are entitled to their opinion, and at the same time entitled not to agree with another person. This is called free speech.

But do only present in a proper manner, and tolerate difference of opinion. For that reason, that is why I do not rate down for differences, but rate down in presentation.
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Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand

A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
#23 Oct 04 2005 at 6:14 PM Rating: Default
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I do not rate down people for the opinion, but rate down in the way it is presented. Everyone are entitled to their opinion, and at the same time entitled not to agree with another person. This is called free speech.

But do only present in a proper manner, and tolerate difference of opinion. For that reason, that is why I do not rate down for differences, but rate down in presentation.



Opinions do vary greatly from preference in color to foods one may like and why certain varieties are better than others. Personalitys that lead people to have these opinions based on life experiences lead to a genre and stereotyping of our society. Quite often the communication of an idea or "opinion" is based upon these life experiences will lead to the way the opinion is communicated in that way we express our emotional and personal feelings.

This is the reason for many different authors in history to have written books we now call classics. In short if we do not all present our opinions in the way you like Amanda it is our form of free speech and if you see fit to rate down then do so I could care less. If we all presented our opinions in a way to best suit your needs or "opinion" of how we should present the content we would not be human beings. This part of our great society is what has led to a "melting pot" of the generations creating a very colorful lush group of people.

In short if my Marine personality may come out now.... Im sorry if you dont like how I present myself, get over the concept that people may present things the way you do not like it. To rate them down seems to come across to me that maybe you think you are better than those that present issues differently than you. This is my free speech and expression of myself. I have met you in game even though you may not remember me, I do know you are a great player and I respect you for letting me know that you rated down and why. Also understand that although I may not like your presentation of a topic I leave you alone for dont we learn something from everyone in this lifetime? If I rated down every individual for how they presented thier opinions I would feel like a English teacher not a contributor to our little society here. If I ever rate down and that is very very very rare it is based on principles of what is clearly right and wrong not politically acceptable or correct in the eyes of presentation.

Take care.

Edited, Tue Oct 4 19:35:16 2005 by JavolinRdm
#24 Oct 05 2005 at 4:13 AM Rating: Decent
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By "presentation," it is more like a vulgarity and unrepsectful posts. It is not like you are not entitled to say whatever you want, but at least give some respect in what others may say.

It is like "I hate this, you suckas noob!" that I do not like. You can always say "I do not like this, because I simply do not like the taste."
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-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel

Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand

A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
#25 Oct 05 2005 at 6:16 AM Rating: Default
calling someone a baby is not vulgarity... and to correct you on this issue you will never find vulgarity in my post.
#26 Oct 05 2005 at 7:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I am not attacking you as using foul language.....

I think you misunderstood what I say...

Edited, Wed Oct 5 13:01:19 2005 by scchan
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-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel

Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand

A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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