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#1 Oct 01 2004 at 11:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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I have decided to remake this post with the contributions of many other members of the Caitsith family.

Below are some points to keep in mind when farming that will help you maximize your income. ^^

Locating a location - I personally believe that you should never farm in an area where mobs can aggro you. (Excluding NM Pops) Every mob within the area should be TWTBW (Too Weak To Be Worthwhile). Having to worry about EP or DC mobs slows down production and makes it quite a hassle.

Know your Area/Zone - Get to know every zone in terms of what spawns, when they spawn, where they spawn, and what they drop. With this, you can develop a game plan.

Travelling to and from your Area - Outposts. Use them. I like to farm zones that my country controls. Why? First, easy in and easy out. Second, when my inv fills up, instead of dropping items, I can run to the outpost and sell off items that I would normally unload onto an NPC. Got too many femurs or hides? Run to the nearest outpost and unload a few or teleport back to your city to move them to mule or AH.

Subbing THF - This is really a no-brainer. Make sure your THF is as least level 15 so you have both Gilfinder and Treasure Hunter 1. It does make a huge difference. If you are farming a wide area and are at least 50, Flee helps out a great deal as well so THF at 25 would also help.

Staying Alive - The worse thing that can happen is dying while you are farming. Know your limit. I would recommend that if you get deep into yellow, do something. Last resort is resting. If you are a mage, you know what to do. For other jobs, you could use bloody bolts with your Ranged Attack to pull HP, or if you are a MNK, make sure to Chakra often. As well, you should use abilities/spells like Utsusemi, Dodge and so forth if you have them to reduce your chance of getting too low.

Valuing Items - Know what prices your items are going for in the AH and from an NPC sell. This is also imperative for managing your inventory so you know what to keep and what not to keep if you run out of space.

Stealing Items - Did you know you can steal certain meat from tigers? Did you know you can steal tears from Ahrimans? You can also steal giant bird feathers from Tabars. Do your research and see what else you can get from these mobs to maximize your farming income.

Claiming your Mob - This really depends on how camped this area is. If it is not very camped, just SA and attack the mob from the back. But if it is pretty camped, then you definitely need some sort of mechanism to claim a mob quickly. For me, I swap between Chi Blast and Steal. Unfortunately, I have to get up close to the mob for Steal, but it is quicker then waiting for the attack delay. For mages, this should be cake since you can use spells like Dia, Flash, Stun, etc. As well, make sure you check the name of the mob, before you attack it. Many times there are locations where NM's will spawn and look identical to normal mobs.

Farming Courtesy - Really, this doesn't apply to the gil sellers. However, in some places I farm, I see people there regularly. I try to be courteous with them, like if I see them about to engage a mob and so forth, I will let them have it instead of trying to out-claim them. On the other hand, if the other farmer is being a prick, this doesn't apply either. But keeping this courtesy with the nicer farmers, they generally will do the same for you, at least in my experiences. Also, you never know if you get a link or if you start to get in trouble, you can either invite another farmer to party or call for /help.

Managing Inventory - For me, I have 50 slots available (still haven't done the last GB quest). I always, sort after every drop to make sure nothing is lost. As well, I always recommend to keep everything and sell everything. But if you are running out of room, drop the crappy items. This is where knowing how much the items go for in the AH and by NPC's comes in handy.

Patience Needed - On many game days, you will see that drops don't occur to often. Have patience. In the places I farm, the best days are usually Windsday and Waterday. So there may be periods where it is dry, don't stress. Just keep on trucking. Farming was not meant to be easy.

Long-term Farming - Don't expect to make a lot of money in one day of farming. However, I would make a goal depending on the area. Whether it is 10k or 100k. As well, you will probably need to farm for at least 3-4 hours to see a decent amount of loot. 30 minutes of farming won't get much at all.

NM Camping over Farming? - Why not NM camp and make the big bucks instead of farming for hours? Well, this has always been a toss up for me. But it depends on how you play. I have done both, and been successful at both. I have also failed miserably at both. With NM camping, expect not to get a dime for hours. But, if you are lucky (since NM camping is based on 90% luck, 10% skill and know-how), you could score a huge drop.

As well, if you are going to camp an NM, in between spawns, you could always farm mobs in the surrounding area to make something, so it is not a complete loss. For example, in Oztroja, you can farm Crabs, Crawlers, and Yags to make something while waiting for Mee Deggi or Quu Domi to pop.

Dealing with Gil Sellers - Dealing with Gil Sellers a.k.a. MOB monopolizers. This is a rough one that I have been going through a great deal. You really only have 3 options here:

a) Deal with it and try to farm what you can.
b) Pick a new area.
c) Bring another person with you to increase your chances of grabbing mobs. You may think, well, you don't want to share your farming. But it is certainly better then getting practically nothing from going with option a.

Diversification - Have multiple farming zones. Why? If a zone is overcrowded, you have backup plans. No need to waste a day that was planned for farming.

Special thanks to the following people for contributing ideas on the original posting of this: Heylee, Deadmeat, Narel, Galkalord, and hXcHillary.

Any comments or concerns? Please let me know. ^^

Edited, Tue Dec 28 15:41:25 2004 by DJSlyde
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#2 Oct 01 2004 at 12:41 PM Rating: Default
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Very Nice Slyde.

If I had the ability, I would rate you up :).
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Anyone have any comments or suggestions? Can someone possibly stick this if you are a paying member of AK?
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#4 Oct 01 2004 at 2:54 PM Rating: Good
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Excellent Post Slyde - Rate Up

Edited, Fri Oct 1 15:55:38 2004 by CaitSithKitty
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#5 Oct 01 2004 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
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Another idea for thieves out there is to utilize hide while farming. Say there's one other person farming/camping use hide and let them think they're all alone and let them take their time, ie casting a strong spell or SA.
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#6 Oct 03 2004 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
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#7 Oct 04 2004 at 5:29 PM Rating: Good
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Can someone who has a paid account on alla, please sticky this thread? Thanks.
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#8 Oct 05 2004 at 1:10 PM Rating: Good
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Slyde, I just noticed I had a PM waiting from Koolaid, asking me to sticky this thread.

Premium members do not have the ability to sticky threads, that is, unless it was in said premium members user journal.

What I can do, though, is head on over to the feedback forum and ask that this become a sticky. The other server forums have them, so why can't we?

These are great tips (awesome work, by the way, and thanks to Koolaid for sending me the PM bringing my attention to this thread... I must've missed it. Smiley: cry) for our farmers to take into consideration.

I'll see what I can do. ^_^
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#9 Oct 05 2004 at 1:11 PM Rating: Good
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Thank you. I am actually now a premier member. So usually, you have to submit something to request the sticky then?
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#10 Oct 05 2004 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
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That's usually how it goes, yeah. Smiley: grin

If you want to give the mods your Smiley: twocents as well, here is the thread in which I requested the sticky.

^_^ Congrats on becoming premium, by the way.

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#11 Oct 05 2004 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks so much!!! I have also added a blurb on that thread and hopefully they will sticky it. Again, thanks for your help. ^^
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Congrats on the sticky Slyde!
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#13 Oct 05 2004 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Another thing that helps during farming, is if you have a way to condense your farming items, to make more room.

IE:

1 yagudo necklace + 1 wind crystal = 3 grass threads.
3 grass threads +1 earth crystal = 1 grass cloth

It makes it so much easier to stack things, for profit, while you are farming.
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Nice stuff Slyde.
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Thank you very much guys. Feedback and recommendations appreciated! ^^
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Congrats on getting it sticky'ed.
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#17 Oct 08 2004 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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Locating a location - I personally believe that you should never farm in an area where mobs can aggro you. (Excluding NM Pops) Every mob within the area should be TWTBW (Too Weak To Be Worthwhile). Having to worry about EP or DC mobs slows down production and makes it quite a hassle.


actually... i have to counter this. Personally I have find farming EP mobs is a plus. Keep in mind I'm a nin, so there is a slight soloing advantages. I have made over 50-60k of extra exp while farming, and picking the right mobs at the right levels you can make alot of gils while gaining some Xp as well.
Despite, ep exp is pretty low, but when you are faming them, you are killing tons of them... every little bit adds up. I thnk every 60-70k of gils i make farming I also get 1-2k of xp. However this is for the experience players I believe and have to have good soloing ability as well as knowing how to pull mobs based off how they behave.
Also having EP mobs that are good for farming may not always be available depending on your level range. This is just something good to keep in mind when deciding on what to farm.


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I have to disagree. When I farm, I am not XPing. Perhaps for a NIN it is different, but for me, if I am fighting EP's it is going to take longer to kill mobs and increase my down time. Therefore, slowing down my k/hr.

I like to keep it seperate, either I am out for gil or out for XP. Doing both does not seem to be productive.

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#19 Oct 10 2004 at 12:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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On a side note: OutPost warp's how do they work? Ive looked for NPC's and found nothing. Im dumb-founded on this, someone clue me in please.^^;
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In every hometown (Windurst, Bastok, San d'Oria), you can talk to the guard and he will allow to do a "Supply Quest" for a specific region that your hometown owns. All, you have to do is make it to that outpost, speak to the guy there and voila, you can teleport between that outpost and your hometown and vice-versa.

The price of the teleport will vary depending on where it is and if your town owns that region.
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Ah, ok. Thanks Slyde.
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Personally, I usually like farming in small parties. This can be more profiting, or less profiting depending on the zone you're farming in, but I believe having company around makes the time more enjoyable.
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Personally, I usually like farming in small parties. This can be more profiting, or less profiting depending on the zone you're farming in, but I believe having company around makes the time more enjoyable.


This could work well also, depending on where you are farming and how camped it is. Plus, you need to be PTing with people you trust so the loot is split evenly. ^^
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Great post! BTW, can you be rated over a 5? If not still gave an excellent.
Bloody bolts - are key to my farming as you noted.
As far as value/inventory: if i see others that are respectfull i always offer to give them the items i would normally chuck, and always enjoys the shock they experience from it! : )
When I farm I always wave to other farmers to aknowledgde their claim and right to have the mob.
NM Camping: when i get there (ie:P Percival in Junger) and a person is already camping it ( I awlays ask if they are) I tell them good luck and go to the other spawn point. The thought that someone may have been there 2 hrs or so camping and clearing mobs makes it beyond rude and disrepectfull to steal it from them period, thats gill seller behavior.
And finally, using thf with rng sub is the bomb! Widescan and flee w/SA activated works for me.

story: was the only person in carpenters landing farming lightning clusters. activated SA, hot /follow on the element (almost guarantees a good SA as it's hard to see which is the rear of element : ), as i am ready to strike some lvl 65 (who watched me use SA) takes it from me. Not much I could do after my intial "thanks" with no reply but/slap. Whoa, this guy just went off about respect! I showed him the same he showed me, after he threatens to follow me all over and train me and my parties as well as bring 20 ppl from his LS to kill me,then he says "well it is competition"
Hmmm, and I thought it was all about respect. it's one or the other, you cannot show respect if you competatively steal mobs from other farmers. "And BTW if you harrase or infringe on my right to play the game (as threatened) you are in violation of tos and will be banned." I never called a GM and doubt i ever will but his statements would have got him in hot water with SE without a doubt. He realized all this and just moved on.
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One thing you may want to mention is that *most* of the time, the purpose of farming is to ultimately make gil.

If you're a nin/thf or a rng/thf, using up Shihei and Ammo, its not exactly the most productive farming. You're still burning Gil in order to kill the mob.

I understand that 60 rng/thf might be able to one shot everything, thus killing it faster, and from a distance, and thus also able to move on faster, but I think having the ability to farm WITHOUT using consumable materials is of utmost importance.

NM camping, however, I would see as different; You need every advantage you can get.
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I understand that 60 rng/thf might be able to one shot everything, thus killing it faster, and from a distance, and thus also able to move on faster, but I think having the ability to farm WITHOUT using consumable materials is of utmost importance.


I sorta agree and disagree. I take meat kabobs when I farm to increase my productivity on killing the mobs. I can see what you mean, but it depends on how much k/hr you are spending and making. That is when you can decide for sure.
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#27 Oct 19 2004 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Good guide. Anyways i dunno about buying to use expendables like arrows and Shihei during farming, but i use whatever i have in my invintory left over from PTing. Mostly Fishkabobs or from lvl THF mithkabobs but i don't buy them for the purpase of farming, i just have them left over from PTing and they're wasteing space. Why burn extra gil while your tring to make it farming? I find though, if theres a EP in the area that i can fight example: Goblins or other Beastmen I fight them. Don't you make more Gil off them if they rate harder?
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#28 Oct 20 2004 at 5:16 PM Rating: Decent
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It all depends on what you are farming really. If you are farming something where you are getting 5k per hour. Then you surely you could spend 500-1k on food or tools. Personally, I don't like to spend more than 25% of my total earning's per hour on food. I think as a general rule of thumb, that is not too bad. Now of course, if you are doing 10k+ per hour, I wouldn't recommend spending 2.5k on food. But at least 1k won't matter as much.
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#29 Oct 21 2004 at 11:02 AM Rating: Default
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Thanks so much DJSlyde for doing this farming guide. It has helped me alot already and I rated you up in return for this great info. ^^
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Thanks so much DJSlyde for doing this farming guide. It has helped me alot already and I rated you up in return for this great info. ^^


No problem. I am glad it helped you.

If anyone has any more recommendations or considerations, please let me know.
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#31 Nov 05 2004 at 11:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Slyde, If you could expand on this guide it would be great! I farm Goobbue in Pashow and i spent about 5 hours doing it and i took in: 4 Bags of tree cuttings, a stack of Boyahda moss, a stack of treant bulbs, 4 thunder clusters, 2 water (gave some to friend) and 12 silverbeastcoins i got from stealing from the higher tier gobs while wondering around. I think i got about 32k from it. I'm not too sure if thats all that great ><. I have to farm up a Gluttiny sword soon and anymore advice you have would be great.
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#32 Nov 10 2004 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, I made the post be kinda general when it comes to specific areas because there are just so many.

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Slyde, If you could expand on this guide it would be great! I farm Goobbue in Pashow and i spent about 5 hours doing it and i took in: 4 Bags of tree cuttings, a stack of Boyahda moss, a stack of treant bulbs, 4 thunder clusters, 2 water (gave some to friend) and 12 silverbeastcoins i got from stealing from the higher tier gobs while wondering around. I think i got about 32k from it. I'm not too sure if thats all that great ><. I have to farm up a Gluttiny sword soon and anymore advice you have would be great.


32k in 5hrs? Doesn't sound to good to me at all. At your level you should be making *at least* 10k/hr and more. For your level, I would recommend trying out Sauromugue Champaign. Kill Tabar Beaks for Cocktrice Skin and Cocktrice Meat, Skinks for Raptor Skin, Gobs for Gil and random drops, Coeurls for whiskers and meat. There, you should easily pull in 10-15k/hr. Providing it is not over camped.

Good luck.


Edited, Wed Nov 10 11:53:10 2004 by DJSlyde
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#33 Nov 10 2004 at 3:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks Slyde, I'll try that when I get back on.
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No problem. Hope it works out for you.
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Remember that the moon phase has an influence on the drop rate. I've noticed a significant increase of drops during a full moon. For example, in an area I would usually have been getting 10k per hr I would suddenly go up to 20k or even 30k per hr on a full moon.

Not many ppl pay attention to the moon phase or the current day in FFXI, but those 2 factors have alot of impact on you whether you know it or not.
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Remember that the moon phase has an influence on the drop rate. I've noticed a significant increase of drops during a full moon. For example, in an area I would usually have been getting 10k per hr I would suddenly go up to 20k or even 30k per hr on a full moon.

Not many ppl pay attention to the moon phase or the current day in FFXI, but those 2 factors have alot of impact on you whether you know it or not.


I didn't mention this, because I am not 100% sure of it. It is a rumor that this is true, but I haven't really had proof of it myself. I have stopped farming for a while, so when I do again, I will check it out.
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#37 Nov 12 2004 at 6:08 PM Rating: Default
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slyde,
all you need to do now is talk a few people into farming for me.... lol j/k ^^ nice guide for those that need to know! now, getting rid of gil farmers and beggars ><
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LOL Nazzy, good luck with that.
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Nice guide-ish thing.
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lmao sorry reinah, but i can't resist... i'm so happy that as a smn you have managed to aquire carby! {Congratulations!} j/k sorry, i'll shut up now {Take Care!}

-Nazzy

p.s. i have found that if you farm an area consistantly for a long period of time, others that come by to farm or whatever tend to leave you alone more if you just keep at your routine.
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p.s. i have found that if you farm an area consistantly for a long period of time, others that come by to farm or whatever tend to leave you alone more if you just keep at your routine.


This is true as I have experienced it first hand. Except for the gil sellers who don't care at all.
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hmm suggestion id say give some decent places where to farm.. of course dont tell us all ur uber secrets.. just like jugner... or buburimu and stuff... just like that.
comments? very nice post ^^
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#43 Dec 18 2004 at 11:18 AM Rating: Default
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Places to Farm:

For tree cuttings go to Sanctuary of Zitah, best if u go around 50

For beastmen blood go to Pashhow Marshlands in the small little area in the top left corner of map, be around 30 to easily farm these.

For spider webs go to Korroloka tunnel, many spiders there.

btw, another easy way to make money is to level a level 1 job with signet, i mean ur leveling and making money at same time when u get crystals.
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Thanks for the guide! I already use most of the tips mentioned in here. One suggestion - Someone mentioned farming in parties. It's even better as a duo with a mage. My hub and I farm together all the time. I'm the MNK and he's the RDM. So I whack all the mobs, while he regens and heals me.

We've made a ton of gil camping Nue for Brown Belt quest. I sub THF so being able to steal coins off the gobs, get gil, and various items has made me a good amount of gil.

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Remember that the moon phase has an influence on the drop rate. I've noticed a significant increase of drops during a full moon. For example, in an area I would usually have been getting 10k per hr I would suddenly go up to 20k or even 30k per hr on a full moon.

Not many ppl pay attention to the moon phase or the current day in FFXI, but those 2 factors have alot of impact on you whether you know it or not.
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I didn't mention this, because I am not 100% sure of it. It is a rumor that this is true, but I haven't really had proof of it myself. I have stopped farming for a while, so when I do again, I will check it out.

Moon affects almost everything.
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when you first made this post i agreed that the meat kabobs were worth getting but now with the double in price i am not so sure that it is worth using while farming
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Yeah, I took the food part out. Since the prices have gone up, food will cost too much to use while farming.
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Edited, Wed Dec 29 03:02:34 2004 by DJSlyde
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Edited, Wed Dec 29 03:02:53 2004 by DJSlyde
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thought id mention a few places i like to farm^^
tahgroy canyon (spelling) lots of good low lvl stuff out here,
now a days i only go for wind, but between weather its stealing saruta cotton, killin bees, saplings, ghosts, and if i have a wind cluster, yags for beads. one hit kills with a boomerang make farming pretty easy^^

giddues: just take a few wind clusters and kill yags for beads and bees for honey (which u can steal) an beehive chips. also u can steal silver coins from the key dropping mobs, and can usually get atleast one pair of light soleas good for a couple k.

beaudeaux: check on all the NMs (got my first valkries mask few weeks ago^^) and bring a couple dark clusters, then kill the higher lvl sheep (cant remember name), they drop skins alot as well as selbina milk, teeth, and stealing wool etc.

these are some fun spots to waste a day and walk away with some good stack to sell or grow (save all my herb seeds for growing fire crystals^^)

i got a few more places, but im usin them alot lately so perhaps ill leave it at this for now =)

good luck and happy hunting -.0

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