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#1 Aug 03 2005 at 5:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Well now I know that this will turn into a war of the good, bad and ugly but I really dont care so here goes.

Their is a ls that I dont feel I need not name that has a MPK rule that allowes them to MPk people who do unto them.

You have all seen the post and said how bad MPK is and how can they explain it. Well My ls that has sucessfull dynamis runs and even managed to pull off a perfect win in windy with no wipes decided to make a sky ls and see how well we can do aginst some god's. Ya i know now I sound cocky right? Anyway we spent a lil time farming water and then got the Winterstone. OK we are half way to being able to fight our first god as a ls.

So next comes Zip. We camp it out and wait for the pop when it pop's we start to attack naturaly. Out of nowhere Tomato ls comes in and MPK us then steal zip. Then another ls that I dident get the name of comes in and MPK tomato.
So now we have 3 ls all after the same mob geting interesting yet? Well now as if that was not bad enough anothe ls shows up and now the Zip. camp is like World War 5 People are geting raised people geting MPKed ya know normal gil farmer/seller behavior.
Then another ls that hapenes to have a person in it that dont like 1 of our members shows up and things go nutz. in the mist of all that went down Zip was claimed and then CFH 2 times by ls tomato.
The ls that has the member aginst 1 of our members got claim and started to kill Zip. at 50% health on Zip he CFH and kills him.
Odd dont ya think? When i asked why he did it I was told That he will do anything to keep this member in my sky shell from geting something.

So lets catch you up now Gil farmers = MPK, other ls = MPK or steal and CFH then kill, or even help the gilfarmer (ya we were in shock over that 2). Then we ask how can that ls back up their reason of saying MPK us and we will MPK you back?

Well As usuall GM = no use to us what a shock there huh.

When we started our sky shell we told our member's MPK can and most likely will cost you membership. We thought other ls would have enough class at this point in the game that they would not do this sort of thing. ( How silly were we to think that people could have a lil class or respect to others )
We have desided to give people in sky another shot at maybe growing up a lil and leaving our ls to do what ever it is we are doing since we are not hurting anyone.
However if these actions are to continue we do know how to play your games and we will if needed.
We will give all ls a clean slate and mark off what happened tonight.
We don't want to sink to the same lvl as others did to us tonight but if for some reason a ls like tomato (yes i know they are gil farmers) or anyother ls for that mater feel's they must MPK or steal mobs from us then we will have no choise but to fight back.
After what happened tonight, I say that ls has the right to do unto others as others do unto them.

As for our sky ls we are still cool with all the sky ls's but if you start a WAR with us a WAR is what we will give you.


Sorry for the rant and now feel free to rate me down for agreeing with the the ls that has a bad rep for whatever reason.
#2 Aug 03 2005 at 6:13 AM Rating: Good
mind telling us what Linkshell this is so others wont think its ForceElite
#3 Aug 03 2005 at 6:27 AM Rating: Decent
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My god, tbh I don't even know why I do ZM's anymore. Can anyone please gimme a good reason other than Z mitts to get sky access cause i'm thinkning ********** it" and going for sea instead.
#4 Aug 03 2005 at 7:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Can anyone please gimme a good reason other than Z mitts to get sky access


The floor right after you zone into Sky is really neat. It makes little diamonds when you walk on it.
Other than that I'm drawing a blank. ;)

I had a very brief taste of the 'HNM' 'Sky LS' scene, and that was about all I wanted of it, unhappily. I've looked forward to fighting on Fafnir/Vrtra/Kirin most of my game life, but the outrageous silliness that seems to overwhelm some of these linkshells, along with the experience of having an HNM stolen, pretty much messed up my uberiffic assumptions about the scene.

It's kind of like the job I had at Hot Topic.
I thought Hot Topic would be the greatest place in the world to work; then I did, and it was pretty much like every other job, except with more shirts, more merchandise-stealing Juggalos, and more embezzling managers that got fired a lot. Hot Topic salesperson does not mean 'really cool eclectic guy', and high level guy in HNM linkshell does not mean 'doesn't have to deal with low-level bullsh*t anymore'.

Maybe I'm wrong, and I just had a bad intro to the scene, I don't know.

I'm a bit surprised to learn that an LS has gone far enough to have an MPK policy. I've heard of this LS, but I was never told the name of it; if a regular linkshell full of lvl 10-60 had MPK policy, you can bet that's an LS that would have a lot of explaining to do.

Edited, Thu Aug 4 15:25:00 2005 by Sioux
#5 Aug 03 2005 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
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I think the problem is your everyday baby BullSh*t..

MPK'ing an LS just cause they got a God NM is freaking pointless.. I swear I am at this point where I am doing my ZM's to Sky access, I am really saying F*ck every single HNMLS in this game.. 90% of them have such freaking BS rules that it's sad... I mean come on this is a game!! Played for FUN!!

And as far as the MPK policy yeah I read it on the website of the LS I think the OP is talking about. And they do have this if you MPK us we will do it to you.

And no matter what it's still in volation of the ToS.
#6 Aug 03 2005 at 9:23 AM Rating: Good
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These new linkshells lack skill and morals so of course they'll resort to this. Wouldn't surprise me if Force Elite was one of them.

Edited, Wed Aug 3 10:31:48 2005 by Balgareth
#7 Aug 03 2005 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent
They should just put the friggen Gods and bigtime monsters into BC type arenas then no one would have to worry about anything cept theyre own group wiping due to lack of preperation or skill.

I have never been excited about sky or sea..not because I dont think the content will be good. IT just seems like the higher lvl you get in this game, the more cookie cutter you are expected to be, and the more cutthroat your competiton gets, and the propensity to act like 5 year olds who got theyre cookies stolen also increases (ME thinks).

The issue is that this is a Final Fantasy game filled with Final Fantasy players that all want that perfect item. In past FF titles its always been accompanied by a hard as hell fight to get these items. It still is. Its just that now there are hundreds of other players competing for the chance even fight the boss in question.I reiterate that I think that they should just put some of these mobs in BC arenas. I think several of them are trade item to pop monster type fights anyways (I may be wrong as I have never fought gods but this is my assumption from reading what others have to say about it).

If players cant act mature and take turns and not try and destroy each other just to cut in line, then SE needs to be a good parent and make a private play room for them to play in because they obviosly dont play well with each other. (not aimed at any gorup in particular just a sarcastic generalization based upon the disputes offered on this board, im sure there are nice high lvl LS but I dont get to read about them as only the trash is brought here it seems).

Thanks,
Gob

(sorry for length of post and grammar...is because my head is disproportioned)
#8 Aug 03 2005 at 12:13 PM Rating: Good
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Goblobsters wrote:
(sorry for length of post and grammar...is because my head is disproportioned)


I'll vouch for that. His head really IS disproportioned. ^^

Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled bashing.

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#9 Aug 03 2005 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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As far as the gods themselves, I've been wondering if there is some way to control the teleporter so that only members of an alliance can go up to kill a God, that way there are no slackers on the island who desire to call for help for no good reason.

Edited, Wed Aug 3 13:40:44 2005 by Clerico
#10 Aug 03 2005 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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liljohn wrote:
mind telling us what Linkshell this is so others wont think its ForceElite


No forceElite is not the ls in fact they were very plesent to us when we were farming water. We stoped farming to allow them to kill olli when they were dont they thanked us and wished us luck then went along their way.

As for MPK we dont feel we that diserve to be MPKed over and over since we have done nothing to others trying to get the same items.
Is that wrong to say?
It may be a bad choice but we have now added a new rule that applys to to this.
MPK is still a banable offence, however if done unto us over and over with no GM help then the ls that feels the need to go to war be it a normale ls or gilfarmer ls will leave us no choice but to react.

Yes we know people will get mad that if the nonsence of ls that are not good enough to have a lil class feel the need to MPK us time and again that, heaven forbid we will react.

Now as for all the other ls we wish you luck and no we wont be MPKing anyone.

We simply ask to be left alone and we will leave others alone.
#11 Aug 03 2005 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
Call the GM before it gets outta hand so they can WATCH. They will take action then.
#12 Aug 03 2005 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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As far as the gods themselves, I've been wondering if there is some way to control the teleporter so that only members of an alliance can go up to kill a God, that way there are no slackers on the island who desire to call for help for no good reason.



I thought that was how it worked, once the god is spawned then the teleporter shuts down.
#13 Aug 03 2005 at 10:39 PM Rating: Decent
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TheOneWildchild wrote:
liljohn wrote:
mind telling us what Linkshell this is so others wont think its ForceElite


No forceElite is not the ls in fact they were very plesent to us when we were farming water. We stoped farming to allow them to kill olli when they were dont they thanked us and wished us luck then went along their way.

Now as for all the other ls we wish you luck and no we wont be MPKing anyone.

We simply ask to be left alone and we will leave others alone.


Thank you Wild for responding to Liljon's question and telling the truth. ForceElite is not anything like the people on these boards are portraying us to be like. We are not out to harm any other reputable end game LS's and would like the same respect in return, as you gave us yesterday by allowing us to pop OG. We wish SkyAngels the best of luck also.

Edited, Wed Aug 3 23:38:53 2005 by MoonpieJen
#14 Aug 04 2005 at 8:14 PM Rating: Good
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Call the GM before it gets outta hand so they can WATCH. They will take action then.



Smartest thing you could possibly do right there.

I'm sure when the members of said LS are in Mordion(sp?), they'll all direct the GM's to their website and say "Look, it's our POLICY!" Smiley: laugh
#15 Aug 04 2005 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
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ForceElite is not anything like the people on these boards are portraying us to be like


Read the other thread Moonpie? Alot of it were facts and personal accounts of their experiences with your LS.
#16 Aug 05 2005 at 2:14 AM Rating: Decent
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As far as the gods themselves, I've been wondering if there is some way to control the teleporter so that only members of an alliance can go up to kill a God, that way there are no slackers on the island who desire to call for help for no good reason.


If that's the case then there will be some people send a mule into the island 24 hours 7 days a week just to keep everyone from entering it. it will only get worst.

The system now is: once there is someone spawned a god. the island area will be seal off and no one can enter or leave until the god NM is dead or despawn, and that's probably the best for the current system.

Also the topic's problem isn't about killing the spawned god HNM. It's about getting items that use to spawn them. Killing the God HNM probbaly is the easiest and lesser stressful part.

Edited, Fri Aug 5 03:15:42 2005 by Moooooo
#17 Aug 05 2005 at 7:01 AM Rating: Decent
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We tried to claim Zip the other night and it was a war zone. TOMATO, Forecelite and some LS ANHO (sp?) or something just not only dragging golems into the picture, but also aggroing blue Groundskeepers to the other side of the zone, so you were screwed either direction you went.

Now I know TOMATO are gilsellers, but we've been doing things in sky for months and NEVER had a problem with them. They would stop killing pots while we popped Olla, never MPKd me when I beat Cyiko to a Zip pull (even when we were side by side pulling). Therefore, I'm glad these new LSs have come up and taken it upon themselves to make a mess of things so now they just do whatever. Thanks, morons.
#18 Aug 05 2005 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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"You MPK us, we MPK you"

hmmm....
LS1 fights big bad NM, LS2 wants big bad NM. LS2 MPKs LS1. LS1 decides, hell I am going to MPK back. End result, no one gets big bad NM.

All of you who agree on MPK are freaking genius. "An eye for and eye and tooth for a thooth will leave a world full of blind toothless people" I belive is how the saying goes. So after a green light policy on MPK surfaces you are telling me that more LSes are starting to MPK? Your kidding me! And you didnt see this comming (read the genius portion of the paragraph)?

As post above said clearly. Sky was doing perfectly fine for months until this bull **** came to light. Any LS currently using this ************************** policy should seriouosly reconsider it. Though you all might be very pleasant players to be around with, your actions speak louder then words.

Let me simplify this so that everyone can understand. Just because you have beef with one or two LSes doesnt mean you have to bring all of Bismarck down into that rathole. The fact that you have a list of LSes that you will MPK on sight will endanger the well being of those not on your list.
#19 Aug 05 2005 at 6:30 PM Rating: Decent
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We've never had a problem with TOMATO either. They even raised some of us after a pot decided to drop some mean ga spells when exp'ing at the Olla spawn. /shrug
#20 Aug 05 2005 at 9:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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As post above said clearly. Sky was doing perfectly fine for months until this bull sh*t came to light. Any LS currently using this big-bad-***-I-take-no-sh*t policy should seriouosly reconsider it. Though you all might be very pleasant players to be around with, your actions speak louder then words.


Hmm ya actions do speak louder then words even if you dont plan on reading what it is the words say.


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As for MPK we dont feel we that diserve to be MPKed over and over since we have done nothing to others trying to get the same items.
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Damn guess we are wrong here I mean after all we are the "New Guy" and I guess it is ok for us to be picked on untill we earn a rep that people can respect.

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MPK is still a banable offence, however if done unto us over and over with no GM help then the ls that feels the need to go to war be it a normale ls or gilfarmer ls will leave us no choice but to react.

Yes we know people will get mad that if the nonsence of ls that are not good enough to have a lil class feel the need to MPK us time and again that, heaven forbid we will react.
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Once again we are wrong here as well. I mean think about it all we have to do is call a GM and they will rush to our side and help us solve the prob. We all know that is their job. (to bad they dont know that)

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Now as for all the other ls we wish you luck and no we wont be MPKing anyone.

We simply ask to be left alone and we will leave others alone.
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Maybe you over looked this part? Anyway so you can see it again we said "WE WILL NOT MPK OTHER LS BECAUSE WE WERE BEAT TO A MOB WE SIMPLY ASK FOR OTHER LS TO DO THE SAME"

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Basicly the way I see it is anyone complaning about us saying we will react if GM's will not help is proably a ls that will MPK you if if beat them to a mob.

Not saying that you are in a shell like that but if we are not attacking your ls then why is it you have a prob. with it?

As bad as it sounds yes this is a GAME but lot's of people take this game like it is real life. To say the least just like real life cops, GM's dont always do justice do to the large amount of calls they get all day everyday so sometimes you must stray away from the laws that are set forth to protect you.

We never said MPK is justafied in this ls nor did we start MPKing anyone in sight. If you go back and read all of what was said then you may see that but most likely you say the words WE will react and MPK all in 1 post and freaked out thinking the "New Guys" are going to come up and ***** you in the a$$ with no lube.

We just want everyone to get along in sky. In fact I have talked with the person that said they would do anything to keep a member of our ls from geting items and we have worked it out (I hope).

So anyone that has a prob with us saying we will react unless your in a ls that MPK's on sight or MPK's because you were beat to a mob then your just being dumb about this since we wont hurt you in anyway dont ya think?
We are not hear to harm the ls that respect others and follow the rules in anyway and if you dont believe me then read what I posted before.
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Now as for all the other ls we wish you luck and no we wont be MPKing anyone.
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Guess that was over looked as well.

Anyway all we said is that it was BS what happened because we beat people to zip and maybe you have or maybe you havent had a prob with TOMATO or anyother ls but that night we did and yes we were upset about it. As for MPK we did not MPK the other 3 shells that were their we watched the war as we raised our dead then we called it quits for the night. Yes I now it sounds bad that we said we will react and im telling you we dident but we did not deside this untill 2 days after this happened to us and GM's never answered 1 call from us. Then we had a leaders meeting on what to do if this type of actions continues and with no GM support and really no support from any other sky shells other that a couple that do dynamis with us we had no choice.

You can chose to dislike the choise but if we are leaving you alone and you are leaving us alone than your stressing over something that you need not to worry about.

Sorry for the rant but people need to see all of what is going on not just pick out the parts that they dont like.


Edited, Sat Aug 6 01:38:51 2005 by TheOneWildchild
#21 Aug 05 2005 at 11:37 PM Rating: Good
lol
#22 Aug 07 2005 at 5:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Once again we prove that Sky/HNM LS's are the bane of our server and this whole game.

Funny though this thread aslo proves several other things (which I'm sure have been proven on just about every other post of this nature for the past year =/)

GM's get paid to do a job they don't do.

Everyone skimms these posts then rants.

When you join a Sky/HNM LS you imediatly are sent to a room and have a portion of your brain removed and replaced with a squawk box full of idle threats, excuses, and buzz words justifing MPK.

Joining one of these "Elite" Link Shells equates to getting another job that pays in fake money.

I have far too much time on my hands and should do something worth while rather than reading post about which LS MPK's what other LS.

and finaly joining one of these "End Game" LS is not for me or any other sane, rational, caring, helpfull person who wishes to have FUN! in a game they really like.

{/End Psudorant}
#23 Aug 07 2005 at 5:36 PM Rating: Decent
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well, i am a proud member of SkyAngel, and i think we got the whole MPK thing under control


having friends that are GM's is the key folks.
#24 Aug 07 2005 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
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well, i am a proud member of SkyAngel, and i think we got the whole MPK thing under control


having friends that are GM's is the key folks. 



Thats for sure hip and he will be keeping an eye on what goes down when we are in sky. Hopefully it will solve any chance of MPK o us along with any other ls that may have this prob ^^
#25 Aug 07 2005 at 8:22 PM Rating: Good
I find HNM camping, HNM ls drama, sky, etc. fun.

You can not go by what you read anywhere, you have to experience HNM ls **** for your own before you make up your mind.
It's not as bad as most drama queens make it out to be
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