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#1 Sep 04 2013 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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I decided to try Archer out recently and it has been a lot of fun! I like being able to do damage from a distance and it is nice during crowded Fate's to be able to stand still and keep shooting instead of chasing monsters around. During maintenance I was reading up more about the jobs/classes and saw that by endgame Archer has a pretty significant difference in stats and ability to other jobs skills.

So in order to not gimp myself do I have to choose between bard, dragoon, and warrior as a physical DD class? Kind of annoying the only ranged physical DD is bard...
#2 Sep 04 2013 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm hoping later down the line they have some sort of ranger type class. Or even some sort of pistol user like Corsair from FFXI or Balthier from 12...
#3 Sep 04 2013 at 6:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I hope that 30ARC/15LNC will lead to SAM in the future. It's the most logical, in my opinion, that Samurai be a skilled archer as well as familiar with pole-arms. Lack of SAM was the biggest disappointment with FFXIV and I can't wait for them to correct this issue.
#4 Sep 04 2013 at 7:07 PM Rating: Decent
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ARC/BRD is not DD, it belongs to Support type (Limit Break heals instead of damage). Although if you queue for DF it counts as DD.

MRD/WAR is not DD, WAR is tank, both Limit Break and role shown.

PGL/MNK, LNC/DRG are DD through and through. Single target they have some very big number.

Edited, Sep 4th 2013 9:07pm by Khornette
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#5 Oct 01 2013 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I also hope down the road they have a pure DD based Archer...I don't like support but I like using bows I was a relic bow ranger when I quit FFXI and I would love to have the chance to unleash hellish barrages or sidewinders again
#6 Oct 03 2013 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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Khornette wrote:
ARC/BRD is not DD, it belongs to Support type (Limit Break heals instead of damage). Although if you queue for DF it counts as DD. MRD/WAR is not DD, WAR is tank, both Limit Break and role shown.

PGL/MNK, LNC/DRG are DD through and through. Single target they have some very big number.

Edited, Sep 4th 2013 9:07pm by Khornette


I am only level 44 but I am leading the parse as far as damage on EVERY dungeon I have run, even when singing MP songs for the mages when needed (I never do for BLM since I have leveled that and understand the rotation now). Plus I don't think the parse is taking into effect my tick from Windbite and Venomous Bite as well.

My personal opinion is that we need a DD Limit Break and not a heals one for sure. While we do have great utility we are definitely not a "support" class, at least not compared to what I was used to in FFXI.
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#7 Oct 03 2013 at 6:27 PM Rating: Good
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Techsupport wrote:
Khornette wrote:
ARC/BRD is not DD, it belongs to Support type (Limit Break heals instead of damage). Although if you queue for DF it counts as DD. MRD/WAR is not DD, WAR is tank, both Limit Break and role shown.

PGL/MNK, LNC/DRG are DD through and through. Single target they have some very big number.

Edited, Sep 4th 2013 9:07pm by Khornette


I am only level 44 but I am leading the parse as far as damage on EVERY dungeon I have run, even when singing MP songs for the mages when needed (I never do for BLM since I have leveled that and understand the rotation now). Plus I don't think the parse is taking into effect my tick from Windbite and Venomous Bite as well.

My personal opinion is that we need a DD Limit Break and not a heals one for sure. While we do have great utility we are definitely not a "support" class, at least not compared to what I was used to in FFXI.


Which is what they are going to fix in 2.1, because right now BRD is broken.

Yes, I do understand outdamage other DD class without Song, but it's not possible with Song on unless the other DD doesn't know how to play. -20% damage is a large debuff, and I know this since I got lvl 50 BRD with AK armour and Garuda bow. Normally without Song, BLM/BRD on top of DPS however once put on Song BRD is slightly below MNK/DRG. On the other hand though, BRD being top DPS has alot to thanks DRG for the -10% Piercing dmg debuff on mobs. Without a DRG debuff you see quite big difference.
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