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I thought that was the karma system's job.

Or is it not working as intended anymore?

I don't know, man. RP has given me some heat a couple of times. Not sure I can let that fly.

Isn't he an Asylumite, btw? I thought they still had their Gurufication ceremonies.

/sign on Guru for RPZip.

His postcount is too high to get him to guru using regular means.

RPZip is good folk. He used to be a helpful EQ poster as well.

RPZip is an excellent poster and an excellent and knowledgeable player as well. It'd be impossible for him to reach a new level of karma with the number of posts he has by normal means... he certainly deserves to be a sage or guru though.

/signed

/nod

Also, if someone were to say come up with a list of links to a large amount of his posts I'd be willing to risk carpal tunnel to rate-camp him up. I'm too lazy to go looking for them though.



He used to post there, I rarely see him there anymore.

Edited, Mar 23rd 2007 10:51pm by Kakar

I agree that he's become an excellent poster, but did anyone consider why he isn't Guru already? Why I'm not Guru?

It's not that I mind RPZip getting Guru, because with the amount of time he has put into helping the WoW community he definitely deserves it, but making him a Guru by overruling the karma system could cause an uproar by all those who can't become Gurus by natural means either.

Have I ever mentioned that I started out as a Sage? Then got nuked to near sub-default and spent 4,000 posts getting back to Scholar? My post count is now so huge I can't move in any direction without someone putting a lot of effort into it. I did receive a lot of rateups a while back due to helping out newbies, writing guides, compilations etc. But because of my postcount it only moved me 0.02 or something like that.

My point is, the karma system punishes you for your previous actions and I could see a lot of people complain about not reaching Gurus by natural means either because they were rated down or not rated up 5,000 posts ago.

That being said, I vote in favor for RPZip's Gurufication.

Oh btw thought I would mention I like RPZip too!

Vataro, they removed that feature for that exact reason (albeit I think it was more to prevent negative karma camping).

Sure I did. Lol I didn't figure they would make you rate him up one click at a time. I wasn't sure, but had figured that it might be something possible for one of the programmers to just "make happen" (I am so technical!). I also took into consideration what Maz said about a possible uproar over it. But just remember, this wasn't my idea. I was just in favor of rewarding a productive community member and gave my opinion on it.

And Maz is correct on the necro-karma camping. One evening in IRC Dana had me try to rate some older posts to experiment. They didn't budge.

Anyhow, part of my earlier point, was just that its nice to see community members asking for another poster to be rewarded, when normally we are in here asking for nukes and bams. ~.O

Because karma has very ltitle to do with how much you contribute and very much to do with how often people feel like rating you up or down.

I can see why he is not sage or guru now. He is very helpful, but a lot of people don't like being corrected when they're wrong. So he gets downrated and he doesn't participate in the rate up orgies that certain sections of the site are notorious for, so he has nothing to balance out the undeserved rate downs.

If big boss feels like giving RPZip sage/guru status that's fine with me, and if he doesn't that still fine with me. I'll still respect RPZip the same regardless.

Edited, Mar 24th 2007 7:46pm by Allegory

Wouldn't annoy me the slightest. As I said, I think RPZip deserves it for the great guides he's written, etc.

And I think it's ironic that someone rates me down for asking if he was camped in the past. In fact, someone rated down all my posts save the first one. Wonder why. And who.

Edited, Mar 25th 2007 5:59am by Mazra

Actually it would. Factoring in both your current post count and the way the rating system works (every psot you make is like rating yourself for your current karma) you would maintain it through countless ratedown storms.

Even as low as 1k posts if you make guru you'll basically never lose it unless you try really hard. The system is designed to perpetuate your current karma rating. Which is why it is nigh impossible for RPZip to reach sage or guru status under normal means.



I would argue for the consideration of abolishing carry-over ratings and just let single posts be rated up or down. Meaning you have no default karma score, and that rating a psots has no overall effect on someone's karma. This way the community can still subdefault unwanted posts like gold selling and RMT, and uprate good psots like guides and faqs, but we no longer deal with all the whining about karma and ratedowns. I'm sure the admins must get tired of checking someone's karma when they complain about being camped.


I'm just sick of the complaining.

Edited, Mar 25th 2007 7:13am by Allegory