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#1 Sep 03 2010 at 7:21 AM Rating: Decent
Suggestions just for easier patch development.

Please open Atomos as a Public test server. Use pre-made chars for content testing.

Allow updates to be downloaded early (by one week) so content can be tested on the server.

Make a forum specific for feedback and suggestions available through FFXI community specifically regarding new update content.

Use it to fix broken, mistranslated, and/or lackluster equipment, abilities, fights.

Let us help you make to make updates streamline.

Edited, Sep 3rd 2010 9:22am by Kinoki
#2 Sep 03 2010 at 7:48 AM Rating: Good
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Can't really say this is needed.

Feedback can be acquired after the fact. Unfortunately, we're often left twiddling our thumbs wondering if SE sees what we're griping about. Meanwhile, short of emergency maintenances, were left waiting for the big patches every 3-4 months just to see if a little fix does happen.

Really, it boils down to communication and the general lack thereof over the years. I'd love to see back-and-forths on each job, event discussion, and even the usual wish-list stuff. While you'll undoubtedly have people polluting these discussions with misinformation (Take the recent "THF sucks!" backlash response to native DW) or personal vendettas against other posters to promote their own agendas (For example, I want RDM melee viability, ergo I'm automatically an idiot and have nothing meaningful to say. 'Sup BG.), it's still possible to filter out the noise for meat that'd make the game better.
#3 Sep 03 2010 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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I used to work for a software development firm. Common practices are to open beta servers up to a select group of trusted clients to test things out prior to going live. Microsoft does this with their MSDN and higher tier Partners groups, other major vendors do this as well. Sony set up a public advisory panel a long time ago (used to participate in that myself).

I would hazard a guess that there is a small group (be it from the original public beta users,an outsourced testing firm, or group within SE's affiliates) that already hits the beta server.

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#4 Sep 05 2010 at 4:10 AM Rating: Good
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I think SE have already learned a valuable lesson from beta testing recently. I'm pretty sure they'll be staying well away from it in XI where possible.
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#5 Sep 05 2010 at 5:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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To be fair, when you throw a buggy and grossly incomplete game at people with questionable design moves on things that aren't broken, they're asking for what they got.
#6 Sep 21 2010 at 5:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Wouldnt really do a thing. People's perspectives on what is broken and what is working correctly will always differ between each other. The feedback SE would get from these patch testers would be horrible, conflicting and completely biased.

None of the players will look at facts, only at what they would want for their own jobs, or what they wouldnt want other jobs to have. Lets face it, SE cant please everyone. Someone will always be fed up with something.

For example. Give something to DD job A, and DD job B will think it's overpowered because the thing they got was not up to par with it. Despite job A having a long history of not being played because players deem it too weak, and job B being the one that was completely overpowered originally. The same can be said about rivalling jobs. SCH getting things belonging to RDM, BLM or WHM. NIN's enternal struggle with PLD. Or just nagging about who is the best DD and why.

Despite (in my own opinion) all of the jobs are fairly balanced and equal now. Which, as some of you might not agree with that, would only prove my point that much more. Unless we would ever get one single stance on something, nothing would ever be helpful to be reported to SE. Just look around you here on the FFXI feedback forum, surely you have an opinion different from a lot of people there.
#7 Sep 22 2010 at 6:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Can't you people overlook whether this is/isn't needed and just recognize it for its potential fun factor?

You're all a bunch of buzzkills.
#8 Sep 22 2010 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
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Seriha wrote:
(Take the recent "THF sucks!" backlash response to native DW) or personal vendettas against other posters to promote their own agendas (For example, I want RDM melee viability, ergo I'm automatically an idiot and have nothing meaningful to say. 'Sup BG.)
I think you're holding this grudge a little long.
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