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#1 Dec 05 2004 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
I feel a lesbian is sort of normal, i don't know why, but i find gay's disgusting (not to offend anyone out there). Do you feel the same way?

Girls are more emotional in a sort of sense, they dont mind having a lesbian friend (my friend is a lesbian, i don't care) and men try and hide it, men don't like having gay friends because men are paranoid, "They are out there to get you"
#3 Dec 05 2004 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I find there is nothing wrong with either way. I believe it is something one can not control and people are born that way. Until it is proved otherwise that is my belief. Why should anyone be publically ousted due to something they can not control. We hetrosexuals did not "choose" to be hetrosexual. We just were. What makes it different that gays and lesbians "just are" born that way as well?

I abhor prejudice of any kind and find it one of the most ugly aspects of human nature.

edited for spelling and to add this last thought.

Abbay, in light of your pregnancy here is a thought to ponder. If you have a girl, and one day she comes to you and says "Mom, I am gay" would you love her any less? And if you have a boy, and one day he comes to you and says "mom, I'm gay" would you love him any less? I have a two year old boy, and if he came to me with this confession I would not love him less than I do now. He is my son and I will cherish him no matter.



Edited, Sun Dec 5 15:18:29 2004 by deadsidedemon
#4 Dec 05 2004 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
Of course i would love him/her the same... I'm just saying, whats your idea, which you gave me. It is true that you are just born that way, but i think people have somewhat control over it..
#5 Dec 05 2004 at 3:29 PM Rating: Good
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I feel the same about both. They're both great. It's good to see people not going by stereotypes and living their lives the way they want. Afterall, they're people too.
#6 Dec 05 2004 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
----Bah, double post----

Edited, Sun Dec 5 15:34:13 2004 by TStephens
#7 Dec 05 2004 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
Men are just mostly afraid of winding up on the wrong end of the poking.
#8 Dec 05 2004 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
Abbay wrote:
Of course i would love him/her the same... I'm just saying, whats your idea, which you gave me. It is true that you are just born that way, but i think people have somewhat control over it..

You make it sound as though you can compare being gay with having brown hair or green eyes. Sure, I was born a brunette, and I dye my hair bright as !@#$ green, I can get up in the morning and decide that I want to change my hair color or get another tattoo. That's having control over a situation. On the other hand, I could not just wake up one morning and say "Y'know, I think today I'll be a lesbian."
#9 Dec 05 2004 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Could any one of us here choose right here and now, to switch from loving one sex to the other? If you are attracted to the opposite sex, could you go out tonight to a bar/club and choose to be attracted only to those of the same sex? Could you form a lasting relationship with the same sex on the simple basis that you chose to?

#10 Dec 05 2004 at 5:12 PM Rating: Decent
Keep in mind, this is only opened up to start a discussion.
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Of course i would love him/her the same... I'm just saying, whats your idea, which you gave me. It is true that you are just born that way, but i think people have somewhat control over it..
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You make it sound as though you can compare being gay with having brown hair or green eyes. Sure, I was born a brunette, and I dye my hair bright as !@#$ green, I can get up in the morning and decide that I want to change my hair color or get another tattoo. That's having control over a situation. On the other hand, I could not just wake up one morning and say "Y'know, I think today I'll be a lesbian."

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Of course i would love him/her the same... I'm just saying, whats your idea, which you gave me. It is true that you are just born that way, but i think people have somewhat control over it..

Somewhat, not total control, like somewhat being the slither as thin as a feather...

#11 Dec 05 2004 at 5:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I dont think anyone is attacking here Abbay. We are discussing this actually pretty decently for some of the jerks we get around here lol.

It's a great topic to discuss and a wonderful way for people to see different opinions. The reason many posters here are using your words is
A. You strted the post
B. There are a few quotes that we are using to point out our own opinions, which may differ. Using the quotes helps others see where we are coming from to make the point in the first place.


Now my counter question would be, how much is a sliver and is it significant enough to make a difference in your view? Also, does a woman have no choice and therefore it is ok for her to be gay, where aman has a choice, and therefore it is not right for him to be gay?


#12 Dec 05 2004 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
I'm Saying they both have the choice, i have another idea
#13 Dec 05 2004 at 5:41 PM Rating: Decent
I've always been wondering, do women find gay male sex as erotic as we men find lesbian sex?

I mean, I haven't met a guy who didn't like a little girl on girl action, but I've only met one or so girl with a man on man fascination.

Must be a girl thing.
#14 Dec 05 2004 at 5:48 PM Rating: Good
Ok Abbay, say that there is a degree of control over a person's sexuality. Now answer this:

Is there any reason why a person should control it? Do I need to control my flaming heterosexuality? Does your lesbian friend need to control her muffdiving tendencies? Does my mother's dog need to control his nightly urges to shag his "special blanket" after dinner? Should your child come to you in 5 or 15 or 20 years and tell you that they're gay, are you just going to tell them to be "somewhat" less gay?

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I've always been wondering, do women find gay male sex as erotic as we men find lesbian sex?

I mean, I haven't met a guy who didn't like a little girl on girl action, but I've only met one or so girl with a man on man fascination.

edit for this bit...
Girl on girl, man on man, stright, makes no difference to me, it's all arousing.

Edited, Sun Dec 5 17:53:31 2004 by Silverel

Edited, Sun Dec 5 17:56:36 2004 by Silverel
#15 Dec 05 2004 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Qaoz wrote:
I've always been wondering, do women find gay male sex as erotic as we men find lesbian sex?

Flea does, she said so herself.
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#16 Dec 05 2004 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
Yeah?

So does my friend and she's been begging me for a menage trois with another man. I had to say no.
#17 Dec 05 2004 at 5:57 PM Rating: Decent
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So does my friend and she's been begging me for a menage trois with another man. I had to say no.

So, you're sayin 2 dudes, 1 bi[red][/red]tch? I'd have to think a bit before giving that answer.
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#18 Dec 05 2004 at 6:24 PM Rating: Good
Abbay wrote:
I feel a lesbian is sort of normal, i don't know why, but i find gay's disgusting (not to offend anyone out there). Do you feel the same way?

Girls are more emotional in a sort of sense, they dont mind having a lesbian friend (my friend is a lesbian, i don't care) and men try and hide it, men don't like having gay friends because men are paranoid, "They are out there to get you"


Abbay, I respect your opinion but disagree with it. Having said that Why does it matter to anyone what another person does with their life? I've never understood that. If someone wants to pound rusty nails into their hand every day then why does it matter to you, or me or anyone else? I have friends who are crossdressers, transsexuals, and homosexuals as well as straight friends. I have friends who work normal jobs then go out and like getting tied up and spanked by strangers. I couldn't care less what they do. As long as they don't impeed my ability to do what I want to do with my life. But that's just me.

And as for the "out to get me" comment. They are. Put a straight acting gay man into a group of men anywhere and then after a while have him admit he's gay and watch what happens. Men when we get together often dispparage gay men. I've done it myself in the past. I don't feel good about doing that and have learned not to do it anymore. Most men would be humiliated or even lose friends, promotions and jobs or social standings if they came out of the closet.
#19 Dec 05 2004 at 7:43 PM Rating: Decent
You migh just get strangled with pink leather pants:O

Thanks for all your replies, lets keep this going!
#20 Dec 05 2004 at 8:09 PM Rating: Good
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When I was in my teens I "hated" gay men... I was a teenage boy and like 95% of teenage boys a homophobe.

Then I started work at a hospital when I was 18 and as you can guess there are a number of gay male Nurses and a lot of gay female Nurse.
I've had to work with both over the last 14 years and I can now say that I don't give it two seconds thought, if someone is gay or not. I realy don't care any more. Gay, lesbian or straight, most of the people I work with are as normal as you or me.

My 22 year old Sister is living with a 39 year old woman. They make a great couple and my Sister is happy and if she's happy, then I'm happy.
#21 Dec 05 2004 at 8:35 PM Rating: Good
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I feel a lesbian is sort of normal, i don't know why, but i find gay's disgusting (not to offend anyone out there). Do you feel the same way?

Do you find it disgusting in a sexual sense?
As in, "Putting di[b][/b]cks in the poo-hole is gross."

Or do you find it disgusting in a lifestyle sense?
As in, "Gay men are just plain wrong."


There's a big difference.

#22REDACTED, Posted: Dec 05 2004 at 10:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) maybe with a couple pounds of x and a tube of lube
#23 Dec 06 2004 at 6:55 PM Rating: Decent
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as a lesbian commenting on:

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I've always been wondering, do women find gay male sex as erotic as we men find lesbian sex?


silly goose ^^ men find lesbian sex attractive 'cause they're attracted to women. most of my other **** friends find even straight sex nausiating. icky ***** ick ick ick.

I must admit, and not to offend any of my gay or transgender friends out there, that gay men OFTEN hit on straight men. That's why the straight men don't like you. You hit on them. They don't want to be hit on. That's why we dykes don't hit on the straight girls (unless it's an accident, and i appologize to all those women out there who are never going to read this that i've accidentally hit on despite their sexual preference). But that's really hard for gay men to change, i've noticed. Just too darn horney.

anyways, being gay is not a choice to those few who still doubt that. and it's not a sin, either. and i'm not going to hell.

and i still love straight people. ^^ <big hugs all around>

(and don't worry, i find gay men disgusting, too. no, wait. i just find ***** disgusting lol)
#24 Dec 06 2004 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
See I don't get that. I'm a Gay man, and I can watch Straight sex no problem. I don't want to see a naked woman, but It doesn't really bother me. I've seen Lesbian sex, and just kinda shrugged at it. I guess I just wanted to see how the other half does it ^_^

This is a topic that I've talked with alot of my straight friends about. I never understood why it is the general public can seem okay with seeing Lesbians on TV, and be so against seeing Gay men. To tell you the truth, I'm still shocked that ***** as Folk lasted as long as it did. Those where some pretty steamy scenes in that show, and I have a few straight friends that watch the show, having no problem with the content of it.

#25 Dec 06 2004 at 7:38 PM Rating: Default
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and it's not a sin


According to the bible it is
#26 Dec 06 2004 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Gays + Lesbians = same thing. (Really.)
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