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#1 Jul 04 2013 at 10:54 PM Rating: Good
I just can't find it; will you help?


Ceramic shaving cup ~ 4in inches high lightly fluted at the top

Makers mark from top to bottom: the word POEM; under that is a logo which is a square with a Cross-of-Lorraine (sorta) with C O printed on either side of the crosses bottom stem. Under all of that is printed SAN FRANCISCO

Paint on outside is a flower pattern pink and yellow, very delicate; almost watercolor pale.


EDIT: Added a detail.

Edited, Jul 4th 2013 11:30pm by Bijou
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#2 Jul 04 2013 at 11:27 PM Rating: Good
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What's a shaving cup?
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#3 Jul 04 2013 at 11:30 PM Rating: Good
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What's a shaving cup?
Really?

In ye olde days you bought shaving powder and mixed it in a shaving cup with your shaving brush and applied the mix to your face with the brush.
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#4 Jul 04 2013 at 11:36 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, back in ye olde days I wasn't even a twinkle in my mother's eye.
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#5 Jul 05 2013 at 2:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, I can't find it. It's not a major pottery or ceramics manufacturer, I can tell you that. Nor can I find a ceramics or pottery company or barber thingy company from San francisco that would match. You may want to check here http://www.kovels.com/Marks/Pottery-Porcelain/Lines.html and see if you recognize something, that or take a picture and post it. It would be useful to know if any part of the mark is raised or indented like it was stamped or molded into the piece, and if the logo looks like it was stamped on after firing, or done before the finish coat was baked on. Is this thing old, or fairly recent?
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#6 Jul 05 2013 at 3:38 AM Rating: Good
Screenshot

I'm guessing kind of olde, hence the thread. It came in with a "grampa died and here's his stuff" donation and has been lingering at the Mission ever since (like, two years).

There's a subtle tactile feel to the logo, but I can't tell if it is post-glaze or rising through it.

If I had to guess, I'd say the flowers were poppies. They are six-petaled with a cluster or red bits in the center.

Sorry, Bijou no has digicamera.Smiley: frown
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Do you have a reference pic of the original?

Edit: Nevermind

Edited, Jul 5th 2013 5:42am by Shaowstrike
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#8 Jul 05 2013 at 3:53 AM Rating: Good
OK, after looking, flowers are not poppies.
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#9 Jul 05 2013 at 7:24 AM Rating: Good
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Is it a good idea for the blind to be shaving with a straight razor?

You'll have to bring the cup on Antiques Roadshow.

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Is it a good idea for the blind to be shaving with a straight razor?
It is for those who are watching.
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#11 Jul 05 2013 at 11:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Friar Bijou wrote:

There's a subtle tactile feel to the logo, but I can't tell if it is post-glaze or rising through it.


if can feel it on the glazing, chances are it was a stamped on logo afterwards. How certain are you about the letters? is it possible the O is a D, etc? also what color is the logo itself.
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#12 Jul 05 2013 at 11:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ok, the logo drawing helped. That's actually a Takahashi of San Francisco POEM series cup. Here's a soap dish with a very similar logo. I'm guessing yours is older than this example.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TAKAHASHI-SAN-FRANCISCO-CHINA-BOTANICA-PATTERN-SOAP-DISH-MADE-IN-JAPAN-/400443021356?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d3c43982c

edit: Here's one with probably the exact logo.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Takahashi-San-Francisco-Orange-Lemon-Juicer-/111079887848

Edit edit:
And a Thingy from the actual POEM series of things itself:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Small-Floral-Pitcher-Poem-San-Fransisco-Takahashi-/281123257574?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4174407ce6&nma=true&si=VJbmYyiYCXzHyoH7EgqJbcBTU7w%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

edit edit edit:
They started putting the word "Takahashi" and dating the logos in the 1980's. The word Takahashi without the date was probably from the 1970's. Anything missing the word Takahashi but having a product line name probably was made betweeen 1950-1975, though I don't know enough about them to narrow it down more than that, though it's likely after 1965.

Edited, Jul 5th 2013 11:09am by Kaolian
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Friar Bijou wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
What's a shaving cup?
Really?

In ye olde days you bought shaving powder and mixed it in a shaving cup with your shaving brush and applied the mix to your face with the brush.
I have some Old Spice pucks at home. There's just something about the ritual of shaving with shaving soap that I enjoy.
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#14 Jul 05 2013 at 3:14 PM Rating: Good
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Friar Bijou wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
What's a shaving cup?
Really?

In ye olde days you bought shaving powder and mixed it in a shaving cup with your shaving brush and applied the mix to your face with the brush.
I have some Old Spice pucks at home. There's just something about the ritual of shaving with shaving soap that I enjoy.
I'm a lazy cnut and my facial hair doesn't grow very fast so I just use an electric razor.
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#15 Jul 05 2013 at 3:59 PM Rating: Good

The flower pattern on the pitcher in that link is exactly the pattern on the shaving cup.
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#16 Jul 05 2013 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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Flowers look inspired by Asian paintings of lotuses.
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