I'm wondering if there weren't any underlying mental health conditions.
The only person I knew who ever freaked out on a hallucinogenic was the hot superstar wrestler of my high school who broke into his friends house and sat himself down in the kitchen, refusing to leave. When asked why he was doing it his response was "because, I am a bad horse". Instead of being sent to a rehab he was in a 3 month mental health program. Turns out, he had some other issues that came out once the drugs wore off. :/
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PCP is a hell of a drug.Follow
Well, yeah. I wonder how many habitual drug users are self-medicating an undiagnosed mental illness.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
That's the problem with habitual drug use, especially in a society that shuns anyone who takes these drugs. Most of my friends who've had some very hefty addictions (None on psychedelics I should mention) seem to be the less capable of dealing with emotional reactions while they're under the influence.
My friend Seth who had parents who forced him into NA would not pay for him to see a therapist, when he said over and over again that all he wanted was a therapist. It's this kinda of world that allows people to have unchecked addictions and there's no screening process for people that have A) Kids living with them B) Existing psychological effects C) Unchecked addictions
Also: Katie is a ******* moron.
My friend Seth who had parents who forced him into NA would not pay for him to see a therapist, when he said over and over again that all he wanted was a therapist. It's this kinda of world that allows people to have unchecked addictions and there's no screening process for people that have A) Kids living with them B) Existing psychological effects C) Unchecked addictions
Also: Katie is a ******* moron.
I normally don't say stuff like this, but PCP is one of the drugs that alter areas of the human brain that should be better left untouched (NMDA receptors. Sigma receptors are much worse to toy with, but still).
Anyways, I know a good number of people (including myself when I don't feel well) where any shift in consciousness does the trick. Well, not any. But for me, when I'm feeling bad, I can take antipsychotics or Ritalin, both make the symptoms go away. Right now, I'm completely sober for the first time in close to five years (have been for 6 weeks or so now) and it's different. Had symptoms come back the other day.
But yeah, I've met a few people who actually took Ketamine or DXM on a regular basis.
And a guy who needed LSD to be able to drive (and I was in his car a few times. His driving skill was utter **** when he hadn't taken acid.)
Anyways, I know a good number of people (including myself when I don't feel well) where any shift in consciousness does the trick. Well, not any. But for me, when I'm feeling bad, I can take antipsychotics or Ritalin, both make the symptoms go away. Right now, I'm completely sober for the first time in close to five years (have been for 6 weeks or so now) and it's different. Had symptoms come back the other day.
But yeah, I've met a few people who actually took Ketamine or DXM on a regular basis.
And a guy who needed LSD to be able to drive (and I was in his car a few times. His driving skill was utter **** when he hadn't taken acid.)
I could not imagine driving on acid.
LobsterJohnson the Braindead wrote:
I could not imagine driving on acid.
LobsterJohnson the Braindead wrote:
I could not imagine driving on acid.
It's easier than driving black-out drunk, I think. That is, I never wrecked a car tripping.
PCP never gave me the kind of dissociative trip that would have caused me to eat someone's eyes or chop off all my fingers with tin snips, but alcohol did. So did huffing gas, except that I was always so utterly wasted that I couldn't do much more than spin in circles and drool. Shrooms got close a couple times, and meth-born sleep deprivation had me hallucinating so hard I couldn't tell what was real, but I always knew I was hallucinating.
So, in conclusion, huff gas if you want to travel through time, and if you just want to perpetrate horrendous violence upon anyone nearby drink a couple cases of beer or a few liters of whiskey.
Edited, May 20th 2009 8:02am by Barkingturtle
NixNot wrote:
Man, Katie really is a stupid *****.
I know! It's like I just can't believe that a guy would want to do even more dangerous drugs after his cousin probably just died from a really bad trip. You wouldn't think being raised around that and seeing what kind of havoc it's playing in his real life would serve as a wake up call or anything. Nope. Nope. Just keep on trucking, doing what your doing. Don't want to believe that played any part in his cousins downward spiral and very probable death.
I'm the *****. I sit on my pedstal and look down on all of that without any real clue what I'm talking about. It couldn't be that I'm the polar opposite and SAW (still see) what it's done to family members and have the brains to add 2 and 2 together. Mental issues can only be blamed for so much. The rest is just stupidity, immaturity and a lack of common sense.
Calling for the death penalty for all illegal drug users is mature?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Taking meth has nothing to do with trips. Just sayin'.
Katielynn wrote:
and have the brains to add 2 and 2 together.
You're not fooling anyone, missy.
Katie is a stupid *****, who comes from stupid ***** genes apparently.
Samira wrote:
Calling for the death penalty for all illegal drug users is mature?
Neither one of us are right, my idea just tends to soothe the hate that I have for the past experiences I've been put through because of someone's addictions.
One uncle? I helped put behind bars when he skipped out on bail that my mother stupidly paid for him. The charges? Meth lab. He gets off on a technicality. 2 months later? He's off to prison for being busted AGAIN. Not the first time, or the second, or the third for that matter that he's been down this path. My mom is niave and kind hearted. Took him in when I was in middle school to try and get him clean. What happens? He gets into drugs AGAIN and ends up with some crazy guy stalking me threatening to rape and kill me to get back at my uncle.
Other uncle? Same story, different year(s) except for the creepy stalker guy that I had to go to court over.
Best friend? Finally clean after years of substance abuse. I totally cut her out of my life for a while. Told her when she was ready to get clean to call me. Took almost dying to come to her senses almost 8 years after I cut her out of my life.
Years of working in a pharmacy also helped build my complete hate and loathing of drug addicts of any kind. I just cannot and will not stand that kind of thing. Want to kill yourself? Fine, use a bullet, at least the healing process for the rest of your family will be a lot quicker and probably a lot cheaper on them and the tax payers in general.
I have no sympathy for drug addicts and really do believe they are a waste of space.
Katielynn wrote:
NixNot wrote:
Man, Katie really is a stupid *****.
I know! It's like I just can't believe that a guy would want to do even more dangerous drugs after his cousin probably just died from a really bad trip. You wouldn't think being raised around that and seeing what kind of havoc it's playing in his real life would serve as a wake up call or anything. Nope. Nope. Just keep on trucking, doing what your doing. Don't want to believe that played any part in his cousins downward spiral and very probable death.
I'm the *****. I sit on my pedstal and look down on all of that without any real clue what I'm talking about. It couldn't be that I'm the polar opposite and SAW (still see) what it's done to family members and have the brains to add 2 and 2 together. Mental issues can only be blamed for so much. The rest is just stupidity, immaturity and a lack of common sense.
My cousin died because of her choices, and I doubt it was from the meth. As I said in another thread she also had a history of mental illness beyond her meth addled brain. So yeah, you're an idiot. In my life I've seen more people refuse treatment, or if they made it beyond the addiction to take a step back and say that they wished they had taken the option for proper treatment. Having a social stigma of drug use that we have currently, only hurts people. It's just about as stupid a deterrent as the Death Penalty, so you just hit a double whammy of being stupid.
Katie, It sure sucks that you and your whole family are stupid ********
Edited, May 20th 2009 11:20am by NixNot
Edited, May 20th 2009 11:20am by NixNot
Katielynn wrote:
Samira wrote:
Calling for the death penalty for all illegal drug users is mature?
Neither one of us are right, my idea just tends to soothe the hate that I have for the past experiences I've been put through because of someone's addictions.
One uncle? I helped put behind bars when he skipped out on bail that my mother stupidly paid for him. The charges? Meth lab. He gets off on a technicality. 2 months later? He's off to prison for being busted AGAIN. Not the first time, or the second, or the third for that matter that he's been down this path. My mom is niave and kind hearted. Took him in when I was in middle school to try and get him clean. What happens? He gets into drugs AGAIN and ends up with some crazy guy stalking me threatening to rape and kill me to get back at my uncle.
Other uncle? Same story, different year(s) except for the creepy stalker guy that I had to go to court over.
Best friend? Finally clean after years of substance abuse. I totally cut her out of my life for a while. Told her when she was ready to get clean to call me. Took almost dying to come to her senses almost 8 years after I cut her out of my life.
Years of working in a pharmacy also helped build my complete hate and loathing of drug addicts of any kind. I just cannot and will not stand that kind of thing. Want to kill yourself? Fine, use a bullet, at least the healing process for the rest of your family will be a lot quicker and probably a lot cheaper on them and the tax payers in general.
I have no sympathy for drug addicts and really do believe they are a waste of space.
NixNot wrote:
Katie, It sure sucks that you and your whole family are stupid ********
Edited, May 20th 2009 11:20am by NixNot
Edited, May 20th 2009 11:20am by NixNot
Hmmm let me see?
Failed male prostitute with known drug issues tries to strike out at me. I knew a girl like you once. She also used to try the whole "you're just a (insert which ever thing she could pull out of her dope addled brain)". The good news? I see through you the same as I did her. So did everyone else.
It sure is fun to troll you with something as simple as "Katie is a stupid *****."
Cause god, you're a stupid *****.
Cause god, you're a stupid *****.
Katielynn wrote:
NixNot wrote:
Katie, It sure sucks that you and your whole family are stupid ********
Edited, May 20th 2009 11:20am by NixNot
Edited, May 20th 2009 11:20am by NixNot
Hmmm let me see?
Failed male prostitute with known drug issues tries to strike out at me. I knew a girl like you once. She also used to try the whole "you're just a (insert which ever thing she could pull out of her dope addled brain)". The good news? I see through you the same as I did her. So did everyone else.
I don't know where I failed being a hooker either. I mean, I made good money, had regular customers, and I stopped turning tricks because I found an actual job. Sounds to me like I was DOINITIRITE.
Edited, May 20th 2009 11:33am by NixNot
Edited, May 20th 2009 11:33am by NixNot
But . . . but red bull shots are so tasty 
NixNot wrote:
I don't know where I failed being a hooker either. I mean, I made good money, had a regular customers, and I stopped turning tricks because I found an actual job. Sounds to me like I was DOINITIRITE.
But it's hard to acknowledge that either sex work or drug use might be less than the end of the world. Cuts into the black/white paradigm, doncha know.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
But it's hard to acknowledge that either sex work or drug use might be less than the end of the world. Cuts into the black/white paradigm, doncha know.
NixNot wrote:
Samira wrote:
But it's hard to acknowledge that either sex work or drug use might be less than the end of the world. Cuts into the black/white paradigm, doncha know.
No! I'm straight and female, NixNot. Let me at least be right.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
No! I'm straight and female, NixNot. Let me at least be right. 
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