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#177 May 06 2009 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
Jophiel wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
Want to follow them? Be my guest.
Follow, nothin'. I'm looking to lead them. Then, after we're done here, we're going to go on and loot and pillage other forums.



Anyone need a pitchfork? A torch? Anyone? I have extras.

Edit: Someone snuck in when I wasn't looking and added a comma.

Edited, May 6th 2009 1:56pm by toohotforu
#178 May 06 2009 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
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Katielynn wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Samira wrote:
Yes, Katie never falls into a pack mentality. Smiley: rolleyes

This is just Katie trying to distance herself from us so she can be an admin.


No, Katie will never be an admin. That's just how it is. This is Katie being irritated and omg annoyed that people would threaten to leave and thinking that the whole "zomg I wont renew my premium" should be a valid argument to their mock outrage.
Not renewing Premium and/or not frequenting the site are the actions we as paying customers can take to express our displeasure at the services being provided.
#179REDACTED, Posted: May 06 2009 at 9:54 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Or you could ya know, WRITE the owner of the website. Believe it or not, he'll get back with you. Giving the admins flack for doing their job is just pointless.
#180 May 06 2009 at 9:55 AM Rating: Good
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Though we aren't really on the subject any more I feel like noting, if perhaps it was ambiguous before. I was wrong about the definition of sorry before and therefore wrong about all points regarding that usage, though I still think the definition of apology is contestable.
I acknowledge your apology.
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#181 May 06 2009 at 9:55 AM Rating: Decent
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NixNot wrote:
So, they didn't ***** up the contest, which is kind of what started this ball rolling? Well, that's a relief.


Two wrongs don't make a right. Even if the contest did get screwed up, the backlash that followed was unwarranted. The continued spite was merely icing on the cake. I really truly wish some of you @#%^ers would quit complaining and leave already. A good number of posters here are just fine with or without a couple of you and would rather let the drama die and the rebels disappear.


I hate agreeing with BD, it goes against the grain, but AMEN.
#182 May 06 2009 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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Katielynn wrote:
boywithoutaspoon wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Samira wrote:
Yes, Katie never falls into a pack mentality. Smiley: rolleyes

This is just Katie trying to distance herself from us so she can be an admin.


No, Katie will never be an admin. That's just how it is. This is Katie being irritated and omg annoyed that people would threaten to leave and thinking that the whole "zomg I wont renew my premium" should be a valid argument to their mock outrage.
Not renewing Premium and/or not frequenting the site are the actions we as paying customers can take to express our displeasure at the services being provided.


Or you could ya know, WRITE the owner of the website. Believe it or not, he'll get back with you. Giving the admins flack for doing their job is just pointless.
Wanting the admins to be consistent across the board is a legitimate complaint.
#183REDACTED, Posted: May 06 2009 at 9:57 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Take it up with their boss. Do you yell at the fry flipper who got your order wrong? No, you go to the manager.
#184 May 06 2009 at 9:59 AM Rating: Excellent
Katielynn wrote:
Do you yell at the fry flipper who got your order wrong? No, you go to the manager.


Why do you need to flip frys?

#185 May 06 2009 at 9:59 AM Rating: Good
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Katielynn wrote:
boywithoutaspoon wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
boywithoutaspoon wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Samira wrote:
Yes, Katie never falls into a pack mentality. Smiley: rolleyes

This is just Katie trying to distance herself from us so she can be an admin.


No, Katie will never be an admin. That's just how it is. This is Katie being irritated and omg annoyed that people would threaten to leave and thinking that the whole "zomg I wont renew my premium" should be a valid argument to their mock outrage.
Not renewing Premium and/or not frequenting the site are the actions we as paying customers can take to express our displeasure at the services being provided.


Or you could ya know, WRITE the owner of the website. Believe it or not, he'll get back with you. Giving the admins flack for doing their job is just pointless.
Wanting the admins to be consistent across the board is a legitimate complaint.


Take it up with their boss. Do you yell at the fry flipper who got your order wrong? No, you go to the manager.
And you tell them that you'll take your business elsewhere.
#186 May 06 2009 at 9:59 AM Rating: Good
Katielynn wrote:
boywithoutaspoon wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
boywithoutaspoon wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Samira wrote:
Yes, Katie never falls into a pack mentality. Smiley: rolleyes

This is just Katie trying to distance herself from us so she can be an admin.


No, Katie will never be an admin. That's just how it is. This is Katie being irritated and omg annoyed that people would threaten to leave and thinking that the whole "zomg I wont renew my premium" should be a valid argument to their mock outrage.
Not renewing Premium and/or not frequenting the site are the actions we as paying customers can take to express our displeasure at the services being provided.


Or you could ya know, WRITE the owner of the website. Believe it or not, he'll get back with you. Giving the admins flack for doing their job is just pointless.
Wanting the admins to be consistent across the board is a legitimate complaint.


Take it up with their boss. Do you yell at the fry flipper who got your order wrong? No, you go to the manager.
Actually, quite often, when I'm ringing someone up they freak out at me because a price changed, even though corporate directly controls the prices of everything on the til. (It's touch screen, they are holding a bag of potato chips? I hit 'potato chips' and 79 cents pops up. The next day I hit it again and 89 cents pops up, I can't do anything about it. But I still get ******* to.)
#187 May 06 2009 at 10:00 AM Rating: Default
boywithoutaspoon wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
boywithoutaspoon wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
boywithoutaspoon wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Samira wrote:
Yes, Katie never falls into a pack mentality. Smiley: rolleyes

This is just Katie trying to distance herself from us so she can be an admin.


No, Katie will never be an admin. That's just how it is. This is Katie being irritated and omg annoyed that people would threaten to leave and thinking that the whole "zomg I wont renew my premium" should be a valid argument to their mock outrage.
Not renewing Premium and/or not frequenting the site are the actions we as paying customers can take to express our displeasure at the services being provided.


Or you could ya know, WRITE the owner of the website. Believe it or not, he'll get back with you. Giving the admins flack for doing their job is just pointless.
Wanting the admins to be consistent across the board is a legitimate complaint.


Take it up with their boss. Do you yell at the fry flipper who got your order wrong? No, you go to the manager.
And you tell them that you'll take your business elsewhere.


Then do it! Don't just make threats.
#188REDACTED, Posted: May 06 2009 at 10:01 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Exactly, you can't do anything about it. You're not the owner, you do what you were trained or what you are told to do. You probably have certain rules you have to follow that are implemented by the company, not by you.
#189 May 06 2009 at 10:01 AM Rating: Excellent
Nix is leaving?


Well that's gay.
#190 May 06 2009 at 10:01 AM Rating: Excellent
This seems as good a place as any to post this.
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Hey Nix, mind doing me a favor?

I want to say something on the boards, don't want to wait a week to say it because by then it will be lost in the newly relevant conversations(what's your favorite movie and "Look! I found some belly lint that looks like Christ") and don't want to ask Jade to post it because I don't want her muted for letting me use her account.

So, I'm seeing some people suggesting I should apologize to Kao and DF, but it's really highly unlikely, as I don't feel sorry for them in the least. I don't feel I did anything deserving of this mute, unless it's just the cummulative effect of my posting, in which case it would have been nice to have been informed of that directly instead of the ridiculous manuevering they chose to undertake instead.

Fact is, the forum-merge talk is silly, and always comes up when the admins feel overwhelmed by the whining of a vocal majority. You've got two very different social groups existing side-by-side, flourishing and co-mingling to an extent and combining them will destroy one if not both. While I would love to take credit for killing the OoT, I don't see this as anything other than a diversionary tactic at best, and an opportunistic land-grab at worst. If you wanted to enforce the rules in the OoT beforehand, just say that, but the idea of combining the two forums has been floated before, so I think you've probably got all the data one could ask for.

Fact is, the post I got muted for called Kao a moron once, and said that I felt like I was being threatend for making them feel stupid. That's it. And apparently that's mutable now so it won't happen again.

Fact is, I felt like I was being set up. I knew I had really bruised some egos, albeit inadvertantly, with the contest stuff. When Senji's post in the feedback forum popped up, born of an admin's request, I saw it for what it was: an invitation for me to troll in an inappropriate forum and get banned. I'm not anything resembling an idiot, nor am I easily manipulated, and I resented the assumption that I'd be so easily trolled by the administrators.

So I made the thread in the OoT knowing full well there was really only one way to end it. The admins wanted to punish me, so I let them. I'd rather be muted right now than waiting for the other shoe to drop with every post.

If and when my mute is lifted, I won't post in the OoT anymore. I'll post in the Asylum, but the filter I've had will be gone, and I assure you it's been a heavy and strictly self-inforced filter. I don't expect every poster in forum=4 to enjoy me or my attention, either, and I imagine the admins will still get some PMs because darn it BT is mean, but at least I'll be in the forum that says "Flames" at the top of it.

I just want to post the way I know how. I understand that in the future I need to not acknowledge admins in anything but a positive light. I understand that I should contain myself to the Asylum.

Anyway, that's my two cents, see you in a couple days maybe,

Thanks for reading,
Kile

PS: Thanks Nix.




Edited, May 6th 2009 1:02pm by NixNot
#191 May 06 2009 at 10:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Katielynn wrote:

Then do it! Don't just make threats.
But the thing is, you don't actually want to have to go elsewhere. You want things to be fixed so that you can be a happy customer.

Edit: Quote fail.

Edited, May 6th 2009 2:09pm by boywithoutaspoon
#192 May 06 2009 at 10:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Katielynn wrote:
The Great BrownDuck wrote:
NixNot wrote:
So, they didn't ***** up the contest, which is kind of what started this ball rolling? Well, that's a relief.


Two wrongs don't make a right. Even if the contest did get screwed up, the backlash that followed was unwarranted. The continued spite was merely icing on the cake. I really truly wish some of you @#%^ers would quit complaining and leave already. A good number of posters here are just fine with or without a couple of you and would rather let the drama die and the rebels disappear.


I hate agreeing with BD, it goes against the grain, but AMEN.
Ironic or hypocrisy coming from these two?
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#193 May 06 2009 at 10:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Katielynn wrote:
Then do it! Don't just make threats.
You fUcking stupid tWat. If you like the overall service you use, but have a problem with a portion of it, you don't leave, you do what you can in your power to make it better. If you're content to just sit around and not make waves, nothing will change. If saying "I'll take my business elsewhere" gets the attention of someone in charge, that's a legitimate action.
#194 May 06 2009 at 10:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Katielynn wrote:
WRITE the owner of the website
So who is the CEO of Affinity Media these days, anyway?
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Take it up with their boss. Do you yell at the fry flipper who got your order wrong? No, you go to the manager.
Kao's the Lead Forum Admin. DF is the site manager. Neither is a "fry flipper".
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#195 May 06 2009 at 10:03 AM Rating: Default
boywithoutaspoon wrote:
Katielynn wrote:

Take it up with their boss. Do you yell at the fry flipper who got your order wrong? No, you go to the manager.
And you tell them that you'll take your business elsewhere.

Then do it! Don't just make threats. [/quote]But the thing is, you don't actually want to have to go elsewhere. You want things to be fixed so that you can be a happy customer.[/quote]

Business' practices change. This has been coming for a long long time. To act all upset over something that has blatantly been on the horizon for a while is just stupid.
#196REDACTED, Posted: May 06 2009 at 10:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok, bad analogy, but the point is still the same. If you don't like how they are handling something go to their boss. Once you get to a certain point you have to admit this is the way things are going to be and you either come to terms with it or you bite the bullet and take your business else where.
#197 May 06 2009 at 10:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Katielynn wrote:
Once you get to a certain point you have to admit this is the way things are going to be and you either come to terms with it or you bite the bullet and take your business else where.
So people are taking their own path "to that point". For someone who hates reading about it so much, you have quite a presence in this thread.

My previous point is that both Kao & DF, by implication through their job titles at least, are already in the business of taking complaints and customer service. Having to go over their heads because any thread complaining about board moderation gets locks is pretty ****** operating procedure.

Edited, May 6th 2009 1:08pm by Jophiel
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#198REDACTED, Posted: May 06 2009 at 10:07 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yes, coming in on the fourth page of the "omg admins are bad" thread makes me have quite a presence.
#199 May 06 2009 at 10:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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Katielynn wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
Once you get to a certain point you have to admit this is the way things are going to be and you either come to terms with it or you bite the bullet and take your business else where.
So people are taking their own path "to that point". For someone who hates reading about it so much, you have quite a presence in this thread.


Yes, coming in on the fourth page of the "omg admins are bad" thread makes me have quite a presence.
You waited just long enough so you could come in with an "I told you so" and "see, these guys are just awful, unlike me" attitude.
#200 May 06 2009 at 10:08 AM Rating: Excellent
Samira wrote:
Katie, for once just please shut it.
#201 May 06 2009 at 10:09 AM Rating: Good
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BarkingTurtle wrote:
If and when my mute is lifted, I won't post in the OoT anymore. I'll post in the Asylum, but the filter I've had will be gone, and I assure you it's been a heavy and strictly self-inforced filter. I don't expect every poster in forum=4 to enjoy me or my attention, either, and I imagine the admins will still get some PMs because darn it BT is mean, but at least I'll be in the forum that says "Flames" at the top of it.
Sincerely, I will be watching it with Smiley: popcorn at the ready.
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