[Poll] Forum Merge?Follow

***** Varrus, think about how the rest of the Asylum is going to handle the OOT.

Oh with kid gloves, I assure you.

That aside, this is a foolish way to go about this process. While I understand the value of the veneer of consensus building and "involvement" of posters, it's a sham. Do what generates the most revenue for the site. Weighted by post count, the vast majority of the most involved people favor moderation in only the most extreme cases. It was the case when OOT was created from the Asylum, it's the case now, it'll be the case the next time there's head scratching about this. It's not rocket science, the most active posters, who drive the forums, which drives ad revenue, favor less moderation. It may be the case that the posters that complain or favor more moderation generate more income through Premium or whatever, I have no idea. Figure it out, though. Hire me for $2000 a day and I'll figure it out from your data since it seems such a mystery to you you guys. Once you've figured out which policy will generate the most revenue, DO THAT. It's a for profit enterprise, not a public trust. Pretending it isn't is just insulting.

Good luck.

Knee deep.

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Don't you need to gently slap someone in the face with gloves and then challenge them to a duel when you say that?

I think the tricky bit there is deciding where to drse the line between joking replies, and serious replies - and a new poster on the oot, unless they've neem lurking a while, isn't likely to be able to make that distinction . From my point of view, there are certain posters I know enough to allow to take the **** out fo me - for example, Nobby . I've heard him on skype, singing, and I've read many of his posts on here. I like Nobby, and to some extent I know his posting, so he gets the right to call me names on skype, because I know how to take it . (Although, Many thanks to Gwynapnud for repeatedly standing up for me :P)

However, if someone I didn't know was to jump on the bandwagon on Fatalillusiontw is a fatty, then sure, I'd get pissed off. They haven't earned my respect, and therefore, they haven't earned the right to disrespect me . (I feel like an utter chav typing tht, innit, yanoarimean?)

The tricky part is deciding where to draw the line, and once thats decided, enforcing that line. Because either way, what we do need is admins who admin wisely - which means not dragging people out into public humiliation and starting drama in the first place . If this whole BT issue had been handled by the admins via PM, there wouldn't be this ********** I'm not intending to insult the admins, but I really think that, IF as was stated, they advised a poster to gripe about another poster in the ste feedback forum, that was a silly move .

I get you ^^ . I think the main think is to make rules that apply from this future point, and to make sure they ARE enforced. From what I gather, the OOT was originally formed because people were getting some flack from the asylumites, and this will repeat unless rules are made and stuck to, regardless of whether forums merge or not .

Why is it that this topic comes up every 4-5 months but nothing ever comes of it?

BTW, I miss posting. They blocked Alla at work and that makes the days much longer.

I am too tired and WAY too stressed to write an official response at this time. And in no way would I allow anyone to pay Smash 2k a day for his babble.

This is not an organized post, just posting the thoughts so I can log out, storms are here. I will spew what I can, but the storm may knock out my electricity at any time and I don't want to lose what I have typed!

It's amazing some of the ideas I read here and was sent. Some of them we have already considered, some where crap, but ultimately you decided to get along somewhat. I received some apologies, some suggestions a few, I don't care, do whatever notes. I read them all, however I have not had time to reply to them all, nor all the posts here.

It's not really THAT much of a pain to move a thread, but letting you come up with a solution gives you a voice, everyone likes to be heard, and have their ideas considered. We really have considered merging the two forums, because in reality, the original sandbox is dead and has outgrown itself. However, I think the "TV, Movies, Anime & Books" could be removed and those types of posts allowed back into the Sandbox.

Someone asked why I didn't make a poll in Asylum, because I already know their answer, I don't need to ask them.

We have a place for flames, cursing, and all around rowdiness, please utilize THAT forum for it's purpose. A few of you belong in the Asylum, if you aren't ready to move on, then rethink your posting style to accommodate those who come to OOT to chat without the fear of Asylumesque behaviors.

So, plan on seeing a LOT more of Kao, and don't be so quick to judge his behavior as strictly his own. He RARELY mutes or bans without letting me know in advance. If I feel strongly against it, we discuss options and come to a compromise. (elec flickered!)

So, from today forward, flamey THREADS will be moved from OOT to Asylum. If the OP protests, they can come to me via whatever means they have to contact me. We'll discuss it.

Flamey posts will either be rated into oblivion/nuked or edited. Continued misuse of the OOT MAY eventually result in a mute or a ban depending on the severity.

Crap I gotta go. Discuss. Leave comments, questions etc. WE CAN work this out and make MOST of you remotely happy. I will be back after the storm subsides unless I crash first, which is possible.

Thanks for all your honest opinions and behaving so well in this thread so that I could actually consider different options/sides to the arguements.

TLDR

This is almost exactly what I was going to say but Nexa said it better.

Edited, May 5th 2009 10:50pm by Klagoth

You can't just create a forum and let it grow one way, then a few years later tell everyone to shut the show down and move somewhere that they will have to change. The only reasonable thing to do is start a new forum and nip any behavior you don't approve of in the bud.

So basically you're saying it was lazy moderation that led to this, and now the community should be punished?