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That should be in the Anime forum Allegory, JEEBUS.

Allegory, I have always liked you. I know nothing about you. I also know that in this state, I see people on welfare work the system. We survived my hubby being unemployed for a year and having no help. Then I had an unexpected unpaid pregnancy leave. No help for us.

The sad thing is that people abuse the system. Makes it harder for those who don't.

I dunno, I grew up below the "poverty" line but above what was needed to get the welfare support in question. My parents sacrificed a lot in order to help me and my brother grow up.

I didn't pity those on welfare, I was angry at them. Seeing my dad work his *** off to support our family of four, yet see families on welfare who's parents didn't have to work, didn't try to work, and they were just as well off as I was in the end.

People abuse anything they can. Seriously, I like how this is applied to poor people across the board. Anyone that says that a majority of people abuse the welfare system or unemployment benefits is a moran. Instead of throwing ******** figures out, lets see a cite.

Raising a child on minimum wage is nearly impossible.

It's hard to get figures when stuff is done undocumented and under the table.



Fixed.

The weirdest thing about my welfare is this: The government pays for this woman to be my personal assistant, she's paid €17 an hour. They pretty much forced this "service" on me, and now insist on continuing to pay for it.
I had to endure being yelled at by my welfare officer for the better part of an hour when I told her that I really didn't want to rely on this for more than 3 or 4 months.

Also, there are cheaper PDA options than a Blackberry.

Absolutely not, but it does increase the probability.

You mean the 1 in 4 of the people I personally know I mentioned earlier?

That's an accurate number, they got laid off in the last month, they told me what they were doing. Probably about half of them plow people's driveways. A few are clearing trees, cutting wood.

About 7 cases of "carpal tunnel syndrome" filed when the employees knew they were going to get laid off. (Told by our HR director in a meeting about what we are trying to do to reduce costs and save the company).



Just because you haven't been exposed to these people doesn't mean they don't exist.

Welfare income is not taxed. These people pay nothing of their share of debt to society. Look, I'm not fabricating an opinion based on public bias or assumptions - my mother became a welfare junkie shortly after my youngest sister was born. I was 14 at the time, and from the onset, I could see how she and others in our housing project were merely abusing the system because they were lazy / unmotivated. I've seen it all, and my hatred for welfare abuse stems from those personal experiences. I retained a 40 hour a week job from the first week after I turned 16 and moved out on my own at the age of 17 to break away from it all. My own mother was arrested for reselling prescription drugs she obtained for free through the Medicaid system (the catalyst for my sister moving up here, actually).

Welfare, as it exists today, is little more than a social disease.

I do make an exception for unemployment, with the caveat that only people are laid off for reasons beyond their control deserve it. There are some who get fired for reasons well within their control and choose to milk unemployment for the maximum benefit period before even beginning to seek other employment. These people are no better than the bottom feeders.

Edited, Jan 17th 2009 8:38pm by BrownDuck

If you are on any sort of welfare you should not have a cell phone. If someone bought you the phone as if paying your bill then they should stop and give you grocery money instead. Having a cell phone is not a right, its a privilege.

In a perfect world, someone would go to this cnuts house say "hey, you're on welfare and I have here, a cell phone bill". Then smash the phone in her face and say "not yours" and leave.

I have a better idea than you, probably.



The retroactive answer is to not have kids if you can't afford it. For those who end up in the situation unwittingly, I say to them, get a second job, do whatever it takes. The problem with welfare in its current state in the U.S. is that it is not conducive to partial employment - if you have even a part time job, your income often disqualifies you from the most needed help. This system forces people to either quit their job or lose welfare. Guess which choice most people make?

It's a system that breeds slackers and is a drain on society.

Do you seriously expect anyone to not at least have the bare minimum cell phone (pre-paid). When I hired people, I put their application in the filing cabinet if they didn't have a cell phone on their app.