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#1 Nov 15 2007 at 5:54 AM Rating: Excellent
Lowe's apologizes for calling Christmas Trees Family Trees.

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Lowe's Apologizes for 'Family Trees' in Christmas Catalog

An early skirmish in this year's "War on Christmas" ended on Tuesday when the nationwide home improvement chain Lowe's apologized for referring to Christmas trees in its holiday catalog as "family trees."

"That was a complete error," Maureen Rich, a spokeswoman for Lowe's Home Improvement Warehouse - which serves more than 13 million customers a week in its 1,400 stores across the nation - told Cybercast News Service. "Right now, we're extremely disappointed in this breakdown in our own creative process.

"We are apologizing to customers today for any confusion our holiday catalog created," Rich said. She explained that the full-color document is called a holiday catalog "because it encompasses all the holidays from October through January."

Rich's comments came in response to an "Action Alert" sent out earlier in the day by the Mississippi-based American Family Association. The e-mail stated: "In an effort to avoid the use of the term 'Christmas tree,' Lowe's [is] now calling them 'family trees.'"

"In their Holiday 2007 catalog, containing 56 pages of Christmas gifts, Lowe's advertises hundreds of gift items, including scores of 'family trees,'" the message continued. "In fact, the word 'Christmas' only appears two times in the entire holiday catalog."

"Lowe's evidently did not want to offend any non-Christians; therefore, they replaced 'Christmas tree' with 'family tree,'" the AFA e-mail said. "Of course, if Christians are offended, that is evidently OK.

"An online search of Lowe's does reference some 'Christmas' items. In fact, a word search of their Web site gives the exact same number - 174 - of the word 'Christmas' as it does the word 'holiday,'" the missive added.

"Their Holiday 2007 catalog features scores of products, including lights, wreaths, trees and yard decorations," the e-mail noted. "Most people would associate these items with Christmas, but not Lowe's! Except for two obscure references, they refer to everything in their catalog as 'holiday.'"

The message also contained a link to three pages from the catalog: the front cover and two pages of pre-lit artificial trees with the words "family trees" at the top of one page and "all decked out" on the other.

In addition, the AFA Web site encouraged readers to send an email to Lowe's and "ask them why they refer to their Christmas trees as 'family trees.'"

The catalog's use of the term "family trees" was "a plain old error," Rich told Cybercast News Service.

Those particular pages dealt with Christmas trees, she said, and the creative group responsible for laying out the catalog put "family trees" at the top to mirror the other "family oriented" headlines on each page, she said.

"Lowe's has been selling Christmas trees for more than 60 years," Rich said. "We are committed to doing that, and we are doing that this year again."

"We refer to them as Christmas trees in all of our television and magazine ads and also in our advertising fliers," she added. "We take this situation very seriously and are redoubling our efforts to proofread those catalogs in the future."

Cybercast News Service has documented several examples of what some call the "War on Christmas," the earliest of which were reported in 2000.

The following year, a New York City school was accused of religious discrimination during the holiday season for allowing the display of Islamic and Jewish symbols, but not Christian symbols, while Arizona Attorney General Janet Napolitano banned Santa Claus displays and other religious symbols on public property.

In 2002, a handful of Massachusetts high school students wanted to give their classmates a small Christmas gift before holiday break, but their religious-themed candy canes instead erupted into a controversy.

A Christian church in Fort Lauderdale was allowed to put up a holiday display claiming that "Jesus Is the Reason for the Season," but it took a court battle for the church to get its message out in 2003, the same year two Palm Beach, Fla., residents sued the town for refusing to allow the display of Christian Nativity scenes on public property alongside displays of the Jewish Menorah.

Christians saw Christmas under a politically correct attack in Australia during 2004, and environmentalists stumped for a treeless Christmas a year later.

But last year, Christian groups claimed they were witnessing a shift in momentum in the "War on Christmas," even though a Christmas-themed event at a public elementary school was changed because parents claimed it illegally spotlighted a "religious" figure - Santa Claus.

Nevertheless, later on Tuesday, a new message went up on the AFA Web site stating that "Lowe's has contacted the AFA and assures us that it is proudly committed to selling Christmas trees this year, as it has done" in the past.

"We appreciate Lowe's for listening to its customers and responding appropriately to our concerns," the site added.




Edited, Nov 15th 2007 8:57am by Soracloud
#2 Nov 15 2007 at 5:57 AM Rating: Decent
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#3 Nov 15 2007 at 6:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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What's the problem? They fUCked up; they apologized; they're less likely to fUCk up the same way again.


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#4 Nov 15 2007 at 6:00 AM Rating: Good
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Tell me again, why its lolSmiley: canada and not lolUSA?
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#5 Nov 15 2007 at 6:01 AM Rating: Good
Samira wrote:
What's the problem? They fUCked up; they apologized; they're less likely to fUCk up the same way again.
Kaku's just indulging in his rape fantasies again.
#6 Nov 15 2007 at 6:03 AM Rating: Excellent
Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Tell me again, why its lolSmiley: canada and not lolUSA?

Because, lolcanada.



I think my favorite part about the holidays is the "War on Christmas." Smiley: laugh
Nothing says good times better than someone saying "Merry Christmas!" and following it up with "Oh, I'm sorry, I mean, Happy Holidays!"

Happy Christmahanukwanzaka!
#7 Nov 15 2007 at 6:04 AM Rating: Good
And no offense to you, Sora, because you know I <3 you... but if something means so very much to a person, they're an idiot for allowing random corporations to have any say in how that thing is defined for them.
#8 Nov 15 2007 at 6:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Mindel wrote:
Samira wrote:
What's the problem? They fUCked up; they apologized; they're less likely to fUCk up the same way again.
Kaku's just indulging in his rape fantasies again.
Society is ruining the holidays.

I had a BT joke to put here but it kind of seemed too easy.
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#9 Nov 15 2007 at 6:04 AM Rating: Good
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Tell me again, why its lolSmiley: canada and not lolUSA?

Because, lolcanada.



I think my favorite part about the holidays is the "War on Christmas." Smiley: laugh
Nothing says good times better than someone saying "Merry Christmas!" and following it up with "Oh, I'm sorry, I mean, Happy Holidays!"

Happy Christmahanukwanzaka!


I'm fond of Decemberween, myself. Back in college, we used to throw an awesome Giftmas bash. :)
#10 Nov 15 2007 at 6:05 AM Rating: Decent
top it off with the fact that no one is making any fuss over Thanksgiving. this is exactly why i HATE Christmas time. the god d4mn retailers have ruined it.
#11 Nov 15 2007 at 6:06 AM Rating: Decent
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top it off with the fact that no one is making any fuss over Thanksgiving. this is exactly why i HATE Christmas time. the god d4mn retailers have ruined it.
I'd probably be more partial to Thanksgiving if my wife could cook. I imagine I'm not alone in that sentiment.

Apparently I have a staff meeting to go to that nobody told me about. Bastards always ruining my OOT time.

Edited, Nov 15th 2007 9:07am by Zackary
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top it off with the fact that no one is making any fuss over Thanksgiving. this is exactly why i HATE Christmas time. the god d4mn retailers have ruined it.


Thanksgiving is a time to remember the better times, before you butchered all the Native Americans. At least, that's what we do with it up north.
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#13 Nov 15 2007 at 6:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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And no offense to you, Sora, because you know I <3 you... but if something means so very much to a person, they're an idiot for allowing random corporations to have any say in how that thing is defined for them.


People were dumb enough to consider them Christmas Trees, they are plastic, spin around, pre-lit and play music. If I found one like that in a forest or tree farm I'd shit myself.

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His Excellency Soracloud wrote:
People were dumb enough to consider them Christmas Trees, they are plastic, spin around, pre-lit and play music. If I found one like that in a forest or tree farm I'd shit myself.



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#15 Nov 15 2007 at 6:12 AM Rating: Good
His Excellency Soracloud wrote:
Mindel wrote:
And no offense to you, Sora, because you know I <3 you... but if something means so very much to a person, they're an idiot for allowing random corporations to have any say in how that thing is defined for them.


People were dumb enough to consider them Christmas Trees, they are plastic, spin around, pre-lit and play music. If I found one like that in a forest or tree farm I'd shit myself.

Smiley: lol
#16 Nov 15 2007 at 6:13 AM Rating: Excellent
Anyone remember those genetically engineered upside down trees? Those made me laugh my *** off every time.

Speaking of genetically engineered holiday decorations, I didn't see any of those albino pumpkins this year... strange.
#17 Nov 15 2007 at 6:16 AM Rating: Good
If I saw one of those trees in a forest I would get down on my knees and worship the god of the forest.
#18 Nov 15 2007 at 6:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyone remember those genetically engineered upside down trees? Those made me laugh my *** off every time.

Speaking of genetically engineered holiday decorations, I didn't see any of those albino pumpkins this year... strange.


mass pumpkin shortage this year due to the weather...

as for the albino those are created by adding something to the soil. they make the skin thicker and have more meat to them, but do not taste as good due to the additive to the soil. sorry i can not remember what that additive is, but i am sure a google search for pumpkin chunkin will turn more info for you.
#19 Nov 15 2007 at 6:33 AM Rating: Good
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"Lowe's evidently did not want to offend any non-Christians; therefore, they replaced 'Christmas tree' with 'family tree,'" the AFA e-mail said. "Of course, if Christians are offended, that is evidently OK.
Sounds like if anyone is creating a war here it's the AFA. Smiley: disappointed

Jesus wasn't born on or under a pine tree covered in lights, ornaments and tinsel, was he?
I mean it seems kind of silly that ANYONE would get offended at calling a decorated tree something other than a "Christmas tree," you know, since it doesn't really have any direct correlation to any religion that I'm aware of, aside from the star/angel that’s sometimes put on top. (I could be wrong though *shrug*)

Why NOT call it a family tree? Seems more appropriate IMO, since it's not really the celebration of religion anymore as much as it is the gathering of family and exchanging of gifts.
Even the jewish side of my family has a pine tree decorated in all it's technicolor glory. (Which, now that I think about it, is pretty dangerous since it's always right next to the menorah. Smiley: lol)

In any case, it's like they say, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Smiley: nod
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His Excellency Soracloud's story wrote:
Rich's comments came in response to an "Action Alert" sent out earlier in the day by the Mississippi-based American Family Association. The e-mail stated: "In an effort to avoid the use of the term 'Christmas tree,' Lowe's [is] now calling them 'family trees.'"
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"Lowe's evidently did not want to offend any non-Christians; therefore, they replaced 'Christmas tree' with 'family tree,'" the AFA e-mail said. "Of course, if Christians are offended, that is evidently OK.
I know I said it before, but once again...
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When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"
Although frequently stern, throughout the entire Gospels Jesus is a figure of peace, humility and forgiveness. He even heals the cut ear of one of the men send to arrest him. The one time Jesus shows real anger, and violent anger at that, is when he sees men attempting to turn a profit off of his Father's name.

These days, the most strident voices of the Religious Right demand that businesses slap the name of Christ on everything they sell for the holidays. They're mortally offended if Lowe's doesn't use the name of Jesus to sell shitty plastic conifers. It fucking blows my mind.
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#21 Nov 15 2007 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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Although frequently stern, throughout the entire Gospels Jesus is a figure of peace, humility and forgiveness. He even heals the cut ear of one of the men send to arrest him. The one time Jesus shows real anger, and violent anger at that, is when he sees men attempting to turn a profit off of his Father's name.

These days, the most strident voices of the Religious Right demand that businesses slap the name of Christ on everything they sell for the holidays. They're mortally offended if Lowe's doesn't use the name of Jesus to sell shitty plastic conifers. It fucking blows my mind.


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#22 Nov 15 2007 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
Jophiel wrote:
These days, the most strident voices of the Religious Right demand that businesses slap the name of Christ on everything they sell for the holidays. They're mortally offended if Lowe's doesn't use the name of Jesus to sell shitty plastic conifers. It fucking blows my mind.


Why? Is it that bitter of a pill to swallow that religion is a business? It's name recognition for the Religious Right to make sure they remain Christmas Trees and nothing else.

If Jesus and the Western, Christian God are real, can you imagine the sh*t storm they are going to bring in the Second Coming?

Edited, Nov 15th 2007 9:55am by Kaelesh
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Why? Is it that bitter of a pill to swallow that religion is a business?
No. Just the hypocrisy of it all. Of course, the men who prayed the loudest and most publically in the Gospels were the Pharisees.
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If Jesus and the Western, Christian God are real, can you imagine the sh*t storm they are going to bring in the Second Coming?



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Behold the pale horse. The man who sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him
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