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#1 Nov 07 2007 at 10:48 AM Rating: Decent
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a5vLk7YsDBHw&refer=home

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The attacker posted a warning on YouTube about two hours before the shootings took place at about 11.43 a.m. local time


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#2 Nov 07 2007 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Kids these days and their youtube violence.
#3 Nov 07 2007 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I couldn't agree more.
#4 Nov 07 2007 at 10:53 AM Rating: Good
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It's a sad day in the OoT when Usagi posts the longest post in a thread. I think its stupidity that you're exporting if this thread shows as any form of indication.
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#5 Nov 07 2007 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
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#6 Nov 07 2007 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
It's a sad day in the OoT when Usagi posts the longest post in a thread. I think its stupidity that you're exporting if this thread shows as any form of indication.
Eh. That's an unfair shot since pretty much all that needs to be said about school violence has been said 20498094825 times before. I think we're all just sick of the topic.

Youtube, though, I could go on about forever. I'll just cut myself short right here and say I'm surprised it wasn't the kid's Myspace, though.
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#7 Nov 07 2007 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
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Youtube - Broadcast yourself committing crimes.
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#8 Nov 07 2007 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
Iamadam the Shady wrote:
Youtube - Broadcast yourself committing crimes.


Who needs hidden cameras... just let them film themselves in the act from now on.
#9 Nov 07 2007 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
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StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
Iamadam the Shady wrote:
Youtube - Broadcast yourself committing crimes.


Who needs hidden cameras... just let them film themselves in the act from now on.
Son of a *****, why do you have to make it difficult for me to dislike you?

BT is right, you're funnier when it's not totally blatant.
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#10 Nov 07 2007 at 11:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
Iamadam the Shady wrote:
Youtube - Broadcast yourself committing crimes.


Who needs hidden cameras... just let them film themselves in the act from now on.


On the plus side, they'll be launched to a level of internet stardom that could only be rivaled if Usagi and Hellboy had sex.
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#11 Nov 07 2007 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I actually saw lors of his videos on youtube a few months back and I was even a subscriber to his channel. I didn't agree with him on anything, but he still seemed reasonably intelligent, but wildly confused. Shame this had to happen :( and now he is gonna have some serious brain damage after he failed to kill himself.
#12 Nov 07 2007 at 1:58 PM Rating: Good
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I actually saw lors of his videos on youtube a few months back and I was even a subscriber to his channel. I didn't agree with him on anything, but he still seemed reasonably intelligent, but wildly confused. Shame this had to happen :( and now he is gonna have some serious brain damage after he failed to kill himself.


Are we supposed to feel bad about that fact?
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#13 Nov 07 2007 at 2:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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He also posted it on 4chan, I saw a Finnish website linked with the picture of 4chan and people telling him to do it.


This is his Manifesto, I also have the youtube videos that where taken down.

Natural Selector’s Manifesto

How Did Natural Selection Turn Into Idiocratic Selection?

Today the process of natural selection is totally misguided. It has reversed. Human race has been devolving very long time for now. Retarded and stupid , weak-minded people are reproducing more and faster than the intelligent, strong-minded people. Laws protect the retarded majority which selects the leaders of society. Modern human race has not only betrayed its ancestors, but the future generations too. **** Sapiens, HAH! It is more like a **** Idioticus to me! When I look at people I see every day in society, school and everywhere... I can’t say I belong to same race as the lousy, miserable, arrogant, selfish human race! No! I have evolved one step above!

Naturality has been discriminated through religions, ideologies, laws and other mass delusion systems. Individual, who is going through his/hers natural power process and trying to live naturally, but is being told that the way he acts or thinks is wrong and stupid, will usually have some reactions which might be considered as "psychological disorders" by the establishment. In reality they are just natural reactions to the disruption of natural power process. They will have some of the following (depending on individual's personality): feelings of inferiority / superiority, hostility, aggression, frustration, depression, self-hatred / hatred towards other people, suicidal / homicidal thought etc... and it is completely normal.

Humans are just a species among other animals and world does not exist only for humans. Death and killing is not a tragedy, it happens in nature all the time between all species. Not all human lives are important or worth saving. Only superior (intelligent, self-aware, strong-minded) individuals should survive while inferior (stupid, retarded, weak-minded masses) should perish.

There is also another solution to the problem: stupid people as slaves and intelligent people as free. What I mean is that they who have free minds, are capable of intelligent existential and philosophical thinking and know what justice is, should be free and rulers... and the robotic masses, they can be slaves since they do not mind it now either and because their minds are on so retarded level. The gangsters that now rule societies, would of course get what they deserve.

Of course there is a final solution too: death of entire human race. It would solve every problem of humanity. The faster human race is wiped out from this planet, the better... no one should be left alive. I have no mercy for the scum of earth, the pathetic human race.

Collective Deindividualization: Totalitarianism & Delusions Of Democracy

Collective deindividualization is a phenomenon where individual will be trained as part of the mindless herd controlled by state, corporation, church or some other organization, group, ideology, religion or mass delusion system and adopt it's rules, morality and codes of conduct. This phenomenon has been familiar in all despotic, authoritarian, totalitarian, monarchist, communist, socialist, ****, fascist and religious societies troughout history. Also, the modern western democratic republics have the same phenomenon. It is just done so that people will think they are free and don't realize they are being enslaved. Majority of people in society are weak-minded and ignorant retards, masses that act like programmed robots and accept voluntarily slavery. But not me! I am self-aware and realize what is going on in society! I have a free mind! And I choose to be free rather than live like a robot or slave. You can say I have a “god complex”, sure... then you have a “group complex”! Compared to you retarded masses, I am actually godlike.

Totalitarian governments rule people through education system, consumerism, mass media, monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force (police, military) and laws discriminating people who think differently than the majority. Democracy... you think democracy means freedom and justice? You are wrong. Democracy is a dictatorship of the moral majority... and the majority is manipulated and ruled by the state mafia. Modern western democracy has nothing to do with freedom or justice; it is totalitarian and corrupted system. Laws are made over the heads of the people and people are being brainwashed to support the system and connected to the institutional structures immediately after their birth. Societies are being ruled by manipulative and charismatic politicians who only care about the interests of majority, and who do not base their decisions on reason but emotions and feelings of the masses. These masses let the authorities of state to make all the important decisions for them. The masses will get an education, they study, get a job, go to work and vote in elections. They think they are free and don’t criticise or question the system. They have become robots. It is like a constructed mechanism in mind, that leaves little choice for an individual to think, talk and act independently.

Three Kinds Of Humans

There are three kinds of human personality types in this world:
1)individualistic human (3% of the world population)
2)manipulative human (3% of the world population)
3)mass human (94% of the world population)

#1 & #2 type of personalities are intelligent, creative and self-aware. They have chosen bit different paths paths. #3 type of personalities are less intelligent and less creative, weak-minded people controlled by #2 type of personalities. The percentages are only estimations though but are based on Gaussian distribution and history of human race and how humans have organized into societies. And this is the way it has always been ever since humans started to organize into communities.

Another way how to divide people is bit different but is based on the same facts, human nature and history. The division is based on the level of intelligence and quality of mentality:
1)intelligent (3% of the world population)
2)slightly retarded, so called “normal people” or “robots” (94% of the world population)
3)highly retarded, “vegetables” (3% of the world population)

Total War Against Humanity

Hate, Im so full of it and I love it. That is one thing I really love. Some time ago, I used to believe in humanity and I wanted to live a long and happy life... but then I woke up. I started to think deeper and realized things. But it was not easy to become existential... knowing as much as I know has made me unhappy, frustrated and angry. I just can’t be happy in the society or the reality I live. Due to long process of existential thinking, observing the society I live and some other things happened in my life... I have come to the point where I feel nothing but hate against humanity and human race.

Life is just a meaningless coincidence... result of long process of evolution and many several factors, causes and effects. However, life is also something that an individual wants and determines it to be. And I'm the dictator and god of my own life. And me, I have chosen my way. I am prepared to fight and die for my cause. I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit, disgraces of human race and failures of natural selection.

You might ask yourselves, why did I do this and what do I want. Well, most of you are too arrogant and closed-minded to understand... You will proprably say me that I am “insane”, “crazy”, “psychopath”, “criminal” or crap like that. No, the truth is that I am just an animl, a human, an individual, a dissident.

I have had enough. I don’t want to be part of this @#%^ed up society. Like some other wise people have said in the past, human race is not worth fighting for or saving... only worth killing. But... When my enemies will run and hide in fear when mentioning my name... When the gangsters of the corrupted governments have been shot in the streets... When the rule of idioracy and the democratic system has been replaced with justice... When intelligent people are finally free and rule the society instead of the idiocratic rule of majority... In that great day of deliverance, you will know what I want.

Long live the revolution... revolution against the system, which enslaves not only the majority of weak-minded masses but also the small minority of strong-minded and intelligent individuals! If we want to live in a different world, we must act. We must rise against the enslaving, corrupted and totalitarian regimes and overthrow the tyrants, gangsters and the rule of idiocracy. I can’t alone change much but hopefully my actions will inspire all the intelligent people of the world and start some sort of revolution against the current systems. The system discriminating naturality and justice, is my enemy. The people living in the world of delusion and supporting this system are my enemies.

I am ready to die for a cause I know is right, just and true... even if I would lose or the battle would be only remembered as evil... I will rather fight and die than live a long and unhappy life.

And remember that this is my war, my ideas and my plans. Don’t blame anyone else for my actions than myself. Don’t blame my parents or my friends. I told nobody about my plans and I always kept them inside my mind only. Don’t blame the movies I see, the music I hear, the games I play or the books I read. No, they had nothing to do with this. This is my war: one man war against humanity, governments and weak-minded masses of the world! No mercy for the scum of the earth! HUMANITY IS OVERRATED! It's time to put NATURAL SELECTION & SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST back on tracks!

Justice renders to everyone his due.

- Pekka-Eric Auvinen (aka NaturalSelector89, Natural Selector, Sturmgeist89 and Sturmgeist).
I also use pseydonym Eric von Auffoin internationally.










And a in another word document I have...

What do I hate / What I don’t like?
Equality, tolerance, human rights, political correctness, hypocrisy, ignorance, enslaving religions and ideologies, antidepressants, TV soap operas & drama shows, rap -music, mass media, censorship, political populists, religious fanatics, moral majority, totalitarianism, consumerism, democracy, pacifism, state mafia, alcholohics, TV commercials, human race.
What do I love / what do I like?
Existentialism, self-awareness, freedom, justice, truth, moral & political philosophy, personal & social psychology, evolution science, political incorrectness, guns, shooting, BDSM, computers, internet, aggressive electronic and industrial rock & metal music, violent movies, , FPS –computer games, sarcasm, irony, black humour, macabre artm mass & serial killer cases, natural disasters, eugenics





And another...

ATTACK INFORMATION

Event: Jokela High School Massacre.
Targets: Jokelan Lukio (High School Of Jokela), students and faculty, society, humanity, human race.
Date: 11/7/2007.
Attack Type: Mass murder, political terrorism (altough I choosed the school as target, my motives for the attack are political and much much deeper and therefore I don’t want this to be called only as “school shooting”).
Location: Jokela, Tuusula, Finland.
Perpetrator’s name: Pekka-Eric Auvinen (aka NaturalSelector89, Natural Selector, Sturmgeist89 and Sturmgeist). I also use pseydonym Eric von Auffoin internationally.
Weapons: Semi-automatic .22 Sig Sauer Mosquito pistol.

Edited, Nov 7th 2007 9:55am by LobsterJohnson

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Edited, Nov 7th 2007 10:47am by LobsterJohnson
#14 Nov 07 2007 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Holy Hellboy post. Smiley: jawdrop
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#15 Nov 07 2007 at 2:07 PM Rating: Good
Hellboy did you write that all yourself or was it just copypasta?
#16 Nov 07 2007 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
remorajunbao, Immortal Lion wrote:
Hellboy did you write that all yourself or was it just copypasta?


Being semi-intelligent is hellboy's alternate personality, duh.

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This is his Manifesto, I also have the youtube videos that where taken down.
so no, most of that was taken from somewhere else.

Edited, Nov 7th 2007 4:12pm by StubsOnAsura
#17 Nov 07 2007 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
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StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
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This is his Manifesto, I also have the youtube videos that where taken down.
so no, most of that was taken from somewhere else.
Still, more informative than a lot of his posts.

I don't think I would have dug around 4chan enough to have found this myself. That's some interesting ****, right there.
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#18 Nov 07 2007 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I also have the youtube videos that where taken down.


post please
#19 Nov 07 2007 at 4:19 PM Rating: Excellent
I'm guessing it's not grammatically correct because he's Finnish, but it still sounds kind of ironic that he's all about superior intellect and then uses words like "choosed."
#20 Nov 08 2007 at 2:02 AM Rating: Default
Is school violence a US export now?

Well we do need some way to boost the falling economy. Death sells well.
#21 Nov 08 2007 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
Dread Lord Rimesume wrote:
Is school violence a US export now?

Well we do need some way to boost the falling economy. Death sells well.


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