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#177 Nov 07 2007 at 1:59 PM Rating: Excellent

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I'm probably going to get flamed like Nagasaki for this..................

After reading this a couple things occur to me.

1. Everyone keeps talking about a 40 year old MAN and a 15 year old GIRL. Seems to me on the news there is a FEMALE teacher who ran off with her 13 year old MALE student, so lets not just assume everyone who like the yungins is male.

2. Up until the last hundred years ago, the age disparity..even in THIS country...between newlyweds was usually wife age x2=husband age. Ever read Little House on the Prairie? Lil' Laura was 14/15 when sexy ol' Alanzo started seeing her. He was 30+.

3. For all you peeps screaming about how an adult being attracted to someone significantly younger is sick, twisted, immoral and against societal norms...try to remember all your ghey friends, since that was the prevailing wisdom on them until a few years ago. See also mixed race relationships.

c'mon guys if we keep going we can easily break 10 pages!
Now, I'm not advocating bumpin uglies with children. This thread started as a discussion of people who have an attraction, not people who go rape kids. I trust you can tell the difference.

Oooh, I'm gonna stir up a hornet's nest with this.

I juse Love how people hold "Romeo and Juliet" to be the pinnacle of Romance "Omg this is just like Romeo and Juliet" Despite the fact that Juliet was 14 in the play.

Why is it it's all of a sudden taboo for people to love anyone under 18, when it's been contrary for hundreds of years, I blame the puritans. 80 years ago we could've been having the EXACT same argument with homosexuality or interracial marriage.

Is it because it's more wrong, or is it because societies values of morality have been changed?

c'mon guys, get gbaji in here and we can easily break 10 pages

Edited, Nov 7th 2007 2:01pm by RunawayFive

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I was going to read the rest of this thread from where I left it earlier, but then I figured, why bother?

#179 Nov 07 2007 at 2:00 PM Rating: Excellent

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3. For all you peeps screaming about how an adult being attracted to someone significantly younger is sick, twisted, immoral and against societal norms...try to remember all your ghey friends, since that was the prevailing wisdom on them until a few years ago. See also mixed race relationships.

Now, I'm not advocating bumpin uglies with children. This thread started as a discussion of people who have an attraction, not people who go rape kids. I trust you can tell the difference.

Well, and as I said before: people who are attracted to kids of a specific age are a problem, because they're going to drop that kid like a hot rock as soon as said kid grows out of that specific stage. Since children and young adolescents lack the maturity, experience, and perspective to handle that kind of heartbreak, and are probably operating under the illusion that the adult is offering a lasting and secure relationship, they're going to be hurt badly under the very BEST circumstances.

Unlike gay people, or people of a different race, a child is not on equal footing with an adult in any sense. That's where your comparison falls apart.

Entering into a sexual relationship with a child under the age of consent is a form of rape. So advocating that it's okay is exactly saying that statutory rape is okay. Okay?

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brianjweis wrote:

1. Everyone keeps talking about a 40 year old MAN and a 15 year old GIRL. Seems to me on the news there is a FEMALE teacher who ran off with her 13 year old MALE student, so lets not just assume everyone who like the yungins is male.

I have been trying to keep it as asexual as possible. Either way, the adult needs his/her head examined if they would like to start a relationship with a 15 year old.

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2. Up until the last hundred years ago, the age disparity..even in THIS country...between newlyweds was usually wife age x2=husband age. Ever read Little House on the Prairie? Lil' Laura was 14/15 when sexy ol' Alanzo started seeing her. He was 30+.

Back then, the father of the girl woudl often barter her away, too. What's your point? As the years go by, we understand things a lot better. Little Laura Ingles wasn't emotionally or biologically ready for "ol' Alanzo" then, just as she wouldn't be now. But we know that now.

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3. For all you peeps screaming about how an adult being attracted to someone significantly younger is sick, twisted, immoral and against societal norms...try to remember all your ghey friends, since that was the prevailing wisdom on them until a few years ago. See also mixed race relationships.

I understand seeing a scantily clad, fully developed 15 year old and thinking they're attractive, and knowing better than to act on that. But what I'm arguing against is a 15 year old having a relationship (i.e. sex) with a 40 year old.

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For the record, I wasn't advocating sex, as much as a loving relationship.

History Shows us that our issues of morality keep changing.

Greek Men would constantly have sex with underage boys, while in the 19 century, that'd be a hangable offence or somesuch.

I worry, will we been seen as narrow, small minded and prejudiced in 100 years?

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For the record, I wasn't advocating sex, as much as a loving relationship.

And you think a 40 year old is going to be ok just hanging out with a 15 year old...?

I still think that if that is who they are comfortable around, they need to have their head examined. That's simply not normal.

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RunawayFive,

Consider this. The average life expectancy worldwide in 1900 was roughly 45 years. In that light, a 35 year old being "in love" with a 15 year old back then is hardly the equivalent of a 35 year old being "in love" today. Your argument is a bit like swiss cheese at this point, and continued rebuttal only makes you look more stupid with each post.

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How realistic do you think an asexual loving relationship between a 40 year old and a 15 year old would be? Particularly if the 40 year old were with the 15 year old specifically because that's what sexually attracts him/her?

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I understand seeing a scantily clad, fully developed 15 year old and thinking they're attractive, and knowing better than to act on that.

Amen.

A-fUcking-men.

It's the roids in the beef and chicken.. it makes for a very uncomfortable arousal.

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umm I propose we lower the legal gambling age to 7, after all casino's need more people.

Anyone who disagrees with me against legalized gambling.

Yup.

Also blind people should be allowed to drive, otherwise that's prejudiced against blind people.

Also, we should bring back the guillotine.

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Protip: I was only discussing the attraction part, not the part where someone is acting out on these desires.

NO, I don't think 15 yearolds are capable of a mature, sexual realationship.
NO, I don't advocate adults having sex with kids.

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#188 Nov 07 2007 at 2:10 PM Rating: Excellent

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Speaking of overreaching out of desperation, well, there you are.

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brianjweis wrote:

Protip: I was only discussing the attraction part, not the part where someone is acting out on these desires.

NO, I don't think 15 yearolds are capable of a mature, sexual realationship.
NO, I don't advocate adults having sex with kids.

You're ruining the argument!

I disagree with everything you said, and I propose we bring back conscription, Also we should be allowed to conscript chimps into the army.
If they have 97% of our DNA, they OBVIOUSLY have 97% of our intelligence!

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This isn't any fun when you know you're being an idiot. Smiley: frown

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This isn't any fun when you know you're being an idiot. Smiley: frown

Was I being the idiot? Was I?

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RunawayFive wrote:

brianjweis wrote:

Protip: I was only discussing the attraction part, not the part where someone is acting out on these desires.

NO, I don't think 15 yearolds are capable of a mature, sexual realationship.
NO, I don't advocate adults having sex with kids.

You're ruining the argument!

I disagree with everything you said, and I propose we bring back conscription, Also we should be allowed to conscript chimps into the army.
If they have 97% of our DNA, they OBVIOUSLY have 97% of our intelligence!

Dammit, we broke another one. Smiley: frown

#193 Nov 07 2007 at 2:14 PM Rating: Excellent

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Prince Kaain wrote:

This isn't any fun when you know you're being an idiot. Smiley: frown

Oh, I think he thinks he's mocking those of us who disagree with him.

Ironic, really.

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RunawayFive wrote:

Prince Kaain wrote:

This isn't any fun when you know you're being an idiot. Smiley: frown

Was I being the idiot? Was I?

Yep, you were!

#195 Nov 07 2007 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good

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Maybe I was the only was in this thread right and everyone else with thinking with their 1950's morality in mind. Did you ever think of that?

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RunawayFive wrote:

Maybe I was the only was in this thread right and everyone else with thinking with their 1950's morality in mind. Did you ever think of that?

Well gee golly Mistah. I do believe you've been drinkin' outta the colored man's fountain.

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RunawayFive wrote:

Maybe I was the only was in this thread right and everyone else with thinking with their 1950's morality in mind. Did you ever think of that?

Yes, maybe you're right....

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Maybe I was the only was in this thread right and everyone else with thinking with their 1950's morality in mind. Did you ever think of that?

When in doubt, majority rules. if 9/10 people in a room believe something is correct, the idiot spouting off arguments to the contrary is just that, an idiot.

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By what right is 18 the magical age of which we are all capable adults? Is 18 to young or old? if 18's good 19 must be better, right? If we're legal adults at 18, why do we need to be 21 to drink? are you saying I'm old enough to have sex and join the army, but I can't have a cocktail before going off to die in a foreign war?

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Sounds to me like RUnaway is one of the 40 year old men with a 15 year old GF himself... Only reason I can possibly think for him defending his swiss cheese point of view so ademantly.

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StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:

RunawayFive wrote:

Maybe I was the only was in this thread right and everyone else with thinking with their 1950's morality in mind. Did you ever think of that?

When in doubt, majority rules. if 9/10 people in a room believe something is correct, the idiot spouting off arguments to the contrary is just that, an idiot.

Please tell me you're joking.

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