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#152 Dec 15 2004 at 9:50 PM Rating: Decent
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double post folks. Nothing to see here. Move along now, move along.

Edited, Wed Dec 15 22:17:44 2004 by deadsidedemon
#153 Dec 15 2004 at 10:06 PM Rating: Good
Your reply was so good you had to post it twice? Smiley: bowdown

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I love to ask why, but I found my why not. Im still going to ask though in the hopes that others find their why not.


Aw. I was hoping to go a few more rounds. It is was a pleasure and hopefully not all mine Smiley: wink2

#154 Dec 15 2004 at 10:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Aw. I was hoping to go a few more rounds. It is was a pleasure and hopefully not all mine


Nope I have just as much fun with this as you I suspect. If you want tokeep going Im game. Just so you know I have my own answers, that does not mean I stop looking for more.

So, as Pat Benatar would say "hit me with your best shot"

As for double posting... stupid slow servers
#155 Dec 16 2004 at 1:19 AM Rating: Good
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Strike a nerve? Ooh, it tickles!

Oh please, Stok. Our various world populations are in danger of going extinct? That one's not even worthy of debate.

You, dear Stok, used the word "revolting" to describe your feelings toward gays. I didn't plant it. I have no need to make you sound like a bigot. You do it better than I ever could.

In one sentence, you call it revolting, in another sentence you advise people to go ahead and indulge from time to time. Conflicted much?

Being gay is not a part time hobby. It's ridiculous to even suggest gays should simply not be gay because it's (insert various negative opinion). Why don't you just take on a man as a life partner? Inconceivable? Distasteful? Depressing?

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When you look outside your sphere of influence and decided that it is not only your opinion and world view that counts, let me know. I'll stop and wait for you to catch up.
My world view has room for people from all across the sexual spectrum, which is the range we humans occupy. Catch up to a view that people should be oppressed who aren't just like me? Nah, I'll pass on that one.
#156 Dec 16 2004 at 9:59 AM Rating: Good
My husbands mother is a lesbian, and her and her partner have been together for longer than I can remember. They're like the happiest couple I know (except for my husband and I^^). It's not a choice, it's how they are, and it makes them happy. Why do so many people have a problem with gay people being happy? It's rediculous to think that someone would choose to be gay.

It furiates me to see some of the negative posts, who are you to judge? You sin just as much as a gay couple, if not more if you're going to go by the bible. In Gods eyes a sin is a sin, no sin is worse than another, please take that into consideration before you cast judgement that you shouldnt be casting in the first place!!! You dont have to like it, but dont think for one second they can change, they cannot, and I know first hand.

I ask you christians to stop hating, and start loving, like you're supposed to. Be considerate of everyone, because no one is better than anyone.
#157 Dec 16 2004 at 7:10 PM Rating: Good
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It furiates me to see some of the negative posts, who are you to judge?


I'm not judging. What is going on is voicing of an opinion on a specific matter that I find revolting. I don't eating raw clams either, to me that is revolting but if you chose to eat raw clams then that is your choice and I have absolutely no choice in the matter as to what you do. In the case of this debate here, to me homosexuality is revolting if Yanari or anyone else that believes they are homosexual choose to live that lifestyle then more power to them, but it is revolting to me. Do you see the point? I don't like homosexuality but I don't care if you do. I hdo have the right to voice my opinion that I find this and eating raw clams revolting.


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You sin just as much as a gay couple, if not more if you're going to go by the bible.


Thanks though for telling me something that I already know. I have not once quoted scripture in regard to this topic, nor will I. My opinion on this topic has little to do with my Faith in GOD. Take away biblical interpretation and put in experience, learning and observation through out the world and I will still claim that homosexuality is revolting to ME.

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In Gods eyes a sin is a sin, no sin is worse than another,


Since I am a man of my word I will not quote scripture, but I will ask you to go back and read the bible again regarding your statement above.

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please take that into consideration before you cast judgement that you shouldnt be casting in the first place!!!


Ah haven't we already covered this like twice in the same reply? Just go upto the first paragraph I typed in this post. Thanks.


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You dont have to like it, but dont think for one second they can change, they cannot, and I know first hand.


Let me respond with a simple BULLSH[/i]IT

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I ask you christians to stop hating, and start loving, like you're supposed to.


Don't you come here and tell me how to live my life when you are the one getting all bit[i]
chy about people talking about homosexuality. Did I ever mention you specifically by name? No. So get off your damn high horse. Accept the fact that there are people that disagree with you regarding your choices just as you disagree with me about believing in GOD. When you can understand that there is a difference in what I have stated other than what your perception is, let me know and I will be more than glad to discuss this issue further. Until you stop getting all butt hurt over my views I refuse to reply to you.

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Be considerate of everyone, because no one is better than anyone.


Then be considerate of my views and YOU accept the fact that there is a large majority of the population that will agree with my stance than yours. Be considerate of my feelings and stop wanting to invade my life with your revolting acts of homosexuality. What you do in your home is your business, what I do in mine is mine. So grow up and realize that you can have sex with another man or woman and I don't care. But ask me what I think about it in a gaming forum on the internet and be prepared to hear something that is going to disagree with you.
#158 Dec 16 2004 at 8:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Be considerate of my feelings and stop wanting to invade my life with your revolting acts of homosexuality.
Are the gays humping it up in the coffee shop?

I've never seen anything very interesting in a coffee shop, dammit.
#159 Dec 16 2004 at 8:49 PM Rating: Decent
My dear Lady deadsidedemon:

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If you people wish to continue this discussions then by all means let's keep it going.

If you want to nit pick into words we can do that. Please keep in mind there are many versions of the Bible, which use different words.


Sorry for the "slow" rebuttal. I did not realize this thread was so hot. I've been too busy working/playing FFXI/Christmas shopping to keep a close eye on it, so this particular sub-topic may have been considered closed, and I apologize if I am raising the dead.

I will attempt to choose my words careful, seeing as though people seem to be quick to take offense in forums.

While you spent time researching for your response, I find it amusing that you quote Bibles from Internet sources. This particular piece of printed literature is the most common in circulation. Why not grab the Bible off your shelf? I assume you own one, considering that you are a recovering Christian.

But then again, I guess that is the easiest way to make available your resources, rather than have readers try to find the particular version of the Bible you used. Click on your link (thank you for that), and viola!, there it is. Also, it's not as though this is a research paper. But, I digress...

Anyway, I did a little Internet surfing of my own (ironic, no?), and came across this little piece:

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The Hebrew word "ratsach" is translated as "kill" in the King James Version, Revised Standard Version, American Standard Version, and some other translations of the Bible. However, it is difficult to apply this in practice. Killing chickens and beef cattle is legal now as it was in biblical times. Nobody today is concerned about pulling vegetables from the garden, even though it kills them. The word "ratsach" is commonly believed to describe the premeditated killing of a human. It requires that the victim be a human being. Many other translations translate "ratsach" as "murder" in this verse.


"The Ten Commandments (A.K.A. The Decalogue)" http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_10c9.htm

I want to clear up that the intent of my first post was not to nit-pick, but that semantics (meaning) and syntax (order) are important.

God spoke His Word to man, so that he may write it down. Man is fallible. Fallible ingredients create fallible products. Therefore, the Bible is fallible.

Think of it this way. No matter how good the copying machine, a copy is never perfect. The colors and tones may be just a little off; there may be some stray marks that weren't on the original; etc. A copy of a copy is even worse. The letters are even more faded. Images have become a little blurred. That's what the Bible is: a copy of a copy. The original was God's "spoken" Word. The first copy was the Bible, in Hebrew. And the copy of the copy is whatever Bible, in English, you now read. Some of the original meaning might have been lost in translation.

It is unfortunate that people take the Bible to be the complete and uncompromising Truth, when in fact it may be far from it. I do believe the Bible has value as a guide to acceptable social behavior. However, it should not be the case that people either believe it all or rebuke it all. It is what it is.

<edited for spelling>

Edited, Thu Dec 16 20:52:08 2004 by Taya
#160 Dec 16 2004 at 8:51 PM Rating: Good
Are the heterosexuals ****[i][/i]ing on your dinner table while you eat? No?

But people are tired of seeing Television shows whose main characters are ***** on the TV while people eat dinner.
#161 Dec 16 2004 at 8:55 PM Rating: Decent
Then they do not have to watch the shows in question. Change the channel. <Yes, please.>
#162 Dec 16 2004 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good
No sh[i][/i]it. Do you have a degree in common sense? The post was a sarcastic retort to Yanari's post. Perhaps you shouldn't take things so literal?
#163 Dec 16 2004 at 9:05 PM Rating: Default
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Lesbians vs. Gays

Aren't they the same thing? I suppose you mean gay-women vs. gay-men. In which case I find certain aspects of lesbianism somewhat arousing, however only if the two women are hot, and not berkinstock, overall-wearing, mullet-beasts.
#164 Dec 16 2004 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I was trying to lighten up the mood, little mister. Your failed attempt at a sarcastic response would almost lead one to think I

struck a nerve! Smiley: laugh

psst, heterosexual interaction isn't always all that interesting to everyone either.
#165 Dec 16 2004 at 9:19 PM Rating: Good
It takes a lot more than a discussion about gays to get me riled up.

I'm just taking up time while I wait to close up shop and rape and pillage my home video card to bring into the store to play EQ2.

EQ2 does not support GEFORCE4 MX Integrated Cards. Damn IT!

Yanari - I likes ya. Smiley: chug
#166 Dec 16 2004 at 10:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Taya

While you spent time researching for your response, I find it amusing that you quote Bibles from Internet sources. This particular piece of printed literature is the most common in circulation. Why not grab the Bible off your shelf? I assume you own one, considering that you are a recovering Christian.

First off I would like to say that I dont post on topics like these without back up sourses. I link and quote so people see that I am not making stuff up on the top of my head. It would be quite easy for any of us to quote something from a source and not be able to back it up with proof. It is the intelligent thing to do when discussing a topic with contriversy.
Why not grab the Bible off my shelf because I am a recovering Christian? Quite simply, I have not been in the religion for over 10 years. I do not own a Bible anymore. And yet, I still know the passages well enough to look them up. You say they are the most common in circulation. They could be, but no one would care unless they wanted to look them up and not many people who are not into the religion would. Also, those who are not educated with the Scripture may not know where the quotes come from, and would appreciate seeing them from somewhere other then what I type. It's always good to cover yourself when you are quoting facts. You could take your Bible off the shelf and quote her, but how do we know what you're typing is true unless we can see it ourselves? Call it skeptisism. People want proof to back up your opinion. I am just kind enough to prove it.

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Also, it's not as though this is a research paper. But, I digress...


No, it's not. It is a gaming forum where we who have common interests can gather to talk about games along with current events.

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I want to clear up that the intent of my first post was not to nit-pick, but that semantics (meaning) and syntax (order) are important.

God spoke His Word to man, so that he may write it down. Man is fallible. Fallible ingredients create fallible products. Therefore, the Bible is fallible.



First part of the quote is fine. Syntax does take credit. But how are we to know fully what was the intended word? None of us were physically there. The part I bolded up there I agree 110% with. Which is my point for many of the beliefs that man has accepted as Gods word. Was the word Kill or murder? Both sound similiar and yet mean different things. Since so many more Bibles use the word Kill does that mean that is the one GOD used, or the one Man decided to use.
Man put his hand into the Bible and interpreted. The Bible is not something that can be called GODs word or GODs book, since Man added or deleted, or twisted his own meanings, whether intentionally or no. It has lost its true reason for being here because Man copied wrong, or inserted diffrent words. As a non christian I see this clearly. No book created that long ago can be as pristine as it was when written. And when you are talking about the writings of a higher being being translated onto paper the first time, man could have messed up then.

However, as a person of non religion looking at the Christian sects, I find that many listen and hold fast to those teachings that mean something to them, or are easy to do, while disregard the teachings of other topics, simply because they do not want to, or they will twist it to fit into their own lifestyle.
Why is it there are so many different categories of the Christian Church? You have protestant, congregational, babtist, evangalist, just to name a few. Why are they so diffrent they needed their own name? Because Man went and twisted the teachings of God to fit to himself and others followed. Yet, if ithas been interpreted and twisted then it is not the calling of God but of what Man would like God to be.

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I will attempt to choose my words careful, seeing as though people seem to be quick to take offense in forums.


Reread what I wrote. If you think I was taking offense to your writings, then you can relax and realize I dont care enough for what other people think here to get upset too often. I wrote back because I was continuing to defend my stance on the subject. What I wrote to you was hardly taking offense.
#167 Dec 16 2004 at 11:50 PM Rating: Decent
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It takes a lot more than a discussion about gays to get me riled up.
Just a bit of tit for tatting. Smiley: wink

And yup, I heard EQ2 is pretty picky about video cards and drivers.
#168 Dec 17 2004 at 1:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't you come here and tell me how to live my life when you are the one getting all ****** about people talking about homosexuality. Did I ever mention you specifically by name? No. So get off your damn high horse. Accept the fact that there are people that disagree with you regarding your choices just as you disagree with me about believing in GOD. When you can understand that there is a difference in what I have stated other than what your perception is, let me know and I will be more than glad to discuss this issue further. Until you stop getting all butt hurt over my views I refuse to reply to you.


Why are you getting so defensive, I didnt quote you, nor did I even use your name!! I was speaking in general, from the posts I've read on this topic, I wasnt specifically picking on you, idiot. I have an oppinion too, and the childish way in which you insult me does not hurt my feelings, but before you do something like that again, make sure the person is specifically attatcking YOU, not making a generalization. Jesus.
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