Although I'm not American I found this very interesting...
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i'd like to see the proof the the FBI took all those films, and proof that the shots of the "neat hole in a steel reinforced wall" was really in the pentagon, and that all those quotes were real, but i'd probably prefer to beleive america was attacked by aliens, or worse... commies
Awww, what happened to the Sxkeet knockoff avatard, Drac? It was so becoming of you. It brought out the color of your eyes.
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Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
I don't think everything in this video is entirly true.
Creepy video
lol I find it quite funny that I got rated down for this...ah well.
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lol I find it quite funny that I got rated down for this...ah well.
The government rated you down, they're trying to keep the secret from getting out.
The Flash wouldn't load for me past the security camera footage, so tell me, does it mention the recovery of the bodies from Flight 77 and the black boxes?
For that matter, do they explain what happened to the 757 - N644AA? Did the government secretly buy it from American Airlines and then throw it into a quarry somewhere? There's FAA records on these planes... they don't just disappear and the airlines don't just stop using a Boeing 757 one day and throw a tarp over them.
You can also look over the Snopes Article which does a fairly good job of refuting most of the major points.
Edited, Sun Sep 5 17:40:05 2004 by Jophiel
For that matter, do they explain what happened to the 757 - N644AA? Did the government secretly buy it from American Airlines and then throw it into a quarry somewhere? There's FAA records on these planes... they don't just disappear and the airlines don't just stop using a Boeing 757 one day and throw a tarp over them.
You can also look over the Snopes Article which does a fairly good job of refuting most of the major points.
Edited, Sun Sep 5 17:40:05 2004 by Jophiel
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I tells of the mystery of no plane wreckage visible after the accident, thats basically it... btw that's a lotta posts!!
Heh she does have alot. She has the second most posts, and is only the 2nd poster over 10k legitimatly. And she has a sweet Avatar that I am curreantly using on my MSN.
O and you will get rated down for alot of reasons. Number 1 reason=Complaining about rating, #2=stupid FFXI posters that have nothing better to do, #3=for being an ***, o and posting dumb **** too. So i think you got rated down because of #2
XD You hit the hammer on the nail
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Where did the "illegitimate" posts go? Why didn't the Asylum incinerate itself to the ground from the flames of angry posters? Who ordered the dissappearance of thousands of my posts? When will Totem win a Last thread?
These and other scary questions may never be fully answered in the wake of the cover-up which occured just after that watershed event. So be on your guard! Watch for my black helicopter and expect the watchful eye of Big Brother to monitor your sleuthing activities should you dare to reveal the truth.
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The implicit thought in that statement is that someone-- me --hit 10k illegitimately. The answer to that is as elusive as the logic in conspiracy theories that surround 9/11. The truth is, moments after I hit 10,000 posts, the FBI came and confiscated all traces of my impact on this board, leaving just a tiny hole in the server's memory. There were no dead bodies of ******* posts strewn around the Asylum, no wreckage of destroyed egos of other posters intent on reaching 10k first, and no large flames burning the hide of yours truly.
Where did the "illegitimate" posts go? Why didn't the Asylum incinerate itself to the ground from the flames of angry posters? Who ordered the dissappearance of thousands of my posts? When will Totem win a Last thread?
These and other scary questions may never be fully answered in the wake of the cover-up which occured just after that watershed event. So be on your guard! Watch for my black helicopter and expect the watchful eye of Big Brother to monitor your sleuthing activities should you dare to reveal the truth.
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Just looked at the animation again and noted a number of factual errors.
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Heh she does have alot. She has the second most posts, and is only the 2nd poster over 10k legitimatly. And she has a sweet Avatar that I am curreantly using on my MSN.
Umm, he. He has a lot of posts.
So you can lose the stiffie now. I hope.
As Totem noted, its Bullsh[sm][/sm]it.
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Huge tin can with 1-3% Organic matter(peoples) hit's a newly steel/kevlar reinforced concrete wall at 400 MPH.
Have you ever seen the discovery channel? They have shown at least 20 times a show about huge impacts. One segment was about a fighter jet into flying into a steel reinforced concrete wall at high speed. It completely shattered. There was nothing left.
Have you ever seen the discovery channel? They have shown at least 20 times a show about huge impacts. One segment was about a fighter jet into flying into a steel reinforced concrete wall at high speed. It completely shattered. There was nothing left.
I was there, working, on the 12th. It was a plane.
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awsome footage.
but....
there was no airplane wreckage left after the tower hits either. a large aircraft traveling at over 500 MPH would have totally disentigrated at impact. all you would find is small bits of melted metal mixed in with the concrete, especially in light of it was poured reinforced concrete.
as far as the fire, the halon system at the pentagon probably took care of the bulk of the flames inside of the building, and the on premises fire controll staff probably did an exelant job of extinguishing the flames outside of the building itself.
as far as the whine, you ever here a 757 at full throttle?
as far as the cameras, at 500 mph on a camera not designed for high speed filming "might" show a blurr, or nothing at all, especially if it was relativly close to the camera.
American airlines DID loose the 757 mentioned, including its flight crew and alot of passengers.
but bottom line, the film COULD be factual, but like micheal moors film, just have the facts twisted into a "plausable" reality.
as much as i dislike the current addministraition, i do not think they would cover up anything like this. i do not think they could if they wanted to.
and a missle would have played right into their hands for a war on Iraq......if they could have called it a "SCUD" instead of a 757.
cool film, but i dont buy the accusations it is used for.
but....
there was no airplane wreckage left after the tower hits either. a large aircraft traveling at over 500 MPH would have totally disentigrated at impact. all you would find is small bits of melted metal mixed in with the concrete, especially in light of it was poured reinforced concrete.
as far as the fire, the halon system at the pentagon probably took care of the bulk of the flames inside of the building, and the on premises fire controll staff probably did an exelant job of extinguishing the flames outside of the building itself.
as far as the whine, you ever here a 757 at full throttle?
as far as the cameras, at 500 mph on a camera not designed for high speed filming "might" show a blurr, or nothing at all, especially if it was relativly close to the camera.
American airlines DID loose the 757 mentioned, including its flight crew and alot of passengers.
but bottom line, the film COULD be factual, but like micheal moors film, just have the facts twisted into a "plausable" reality.
as much as i dislike the current addministraition, i do not think they would cover up anything like this. i do not think they could if they wanted to.
and a missle would have played right into their hands for a war on Iraq......if they could have called it a "SCUD" instead of a 757.
cool film, but i dont buy the accusations it is used for.
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I was there as well. It WAS a 757. People REALLY did die. This is NOT a government conspiracy. Why do you suppose that we always have to find a conspiracy in everything that involves our government. A lot of good people died that day, and crap like this just doesn't do their memories justice.
So what about the plane that crashed in PA.....where was that really headed? At first they claimed Chicago but quickly changed that....I know someone who was in the control tower at O'Hare with all the agencies and that person said the plane asked for permission to fly to Chicago but was told no.....
And why do we always look for conspiracy? Because there is so much that we don't know and that are only uncovered in the event of a National Tragedy......it doesn't help how the media skews the viewpoints on news to only show what they want....what is controversial...and what will gain viewers! Thus the question everything attitude of the American people. It's not to make less of the memories of the lives that were lost but the question what really did happen.....
It's really sad how in the end the lives that were lost are only memories to those who "knew" them. With the 3rd anniversary of "9/11" coming up there seem to be many specials on t.v. that actually pay tribute to the innocent lives that were lost.
And why do we always look for conspiracy? Because there is so much that we don't know and that are only uncovered in the event of a National Tragedy......it doesn't help how the media skews the viewpoints on news to only show what they want....what is controversial...and what will gain viewers! Thus the question everything attitude of the American people. It's not to make less of the memories of the lives that were lost but the question what really did happen.....
It's really sad how in the end the lives that were lost are only memories to those who "knew" them. With the 3rd anniversary of "9/11" coming up there seem to be many specials on t.v. that actually pay tribute to the innocent lives that were lost.
So what about the plane that crashed in PA.....where was that really headed? At first they claimed Chicago but quickly changed that....I know someone who was in the control tower at O'Hare with all the agencies and that person said the plane asked for permission to fly to Chicago but was told no.....
It was shot down by fighter jets, but no one noticed. Is that what you'd like to here?
And why do we always look for conspiracy? Because there is so much that we don't know and that are only uncovered in the event of a National Tragedy......it doesn't help how the media skews the viewpoints on news to only show what they want....what is controversial...and what will gain viewers! Thus the question everything attitude of the American people. It's not to make less of the memories of the lives that were lost but the question what really did happen.....
We allways look for conspiracies because people are morons who can't accept "we're not really sure" as an answer. They'd rather have any sort of ludicrous expination.
What happens we people die? We're not really sure. Unacceptable!! I will instead believe that some carpenter who was nailed to a tree 2000 years ago will rescue me and bring me up in the air to a big castle.
It's really sad how in the end the lives that were lost are only memories to those who "knew" them. With the 3rd anniversary of "9/11" coming up there seem to be many specials on t.v. that actually pay tribute to the innocent lives that were lost.
Innocent people die all the time. The fact that these particular innocent people all died as a group doesn't make thier individual deaths any more special than the guy who gets hit by a drunk driver on his way home from work.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Clarke in his book thinks it was flying towards the Whitehouse where he was and **** Cheney was hiding in the bunker while **** Clarke ran things. Bush was reading children stories off in Florida for anyone who was wondering.
We allways look for conspiracies because people are morons who can't accept "we're not really sure" as an answer.
we always look for conspiracies because the days of trusting big brother at their word died with vietnam. some people are always looking for the dark side, some people are looking for the simple side.
either way, alot of people now question what they are told by politicians, and make up sinerios to suit themselves in a vacume of reliable information.
questioning what we are told is good. buying into conspericy theory,s is not a sign of being a moron, it is a sign of a lack of trust in our leaders, and it is well deserved.
we always look for conspiracies because the days of trusting big brother at their word died with vietnam. some people are always looking for the dark side, some people are looking for the simple side.
either way, alot of people now question what they are told by politicians, and make up sinerios to suit themselves in a vacume of reliable information.
questioning what we are told is good. buying into conspericy theory,s is not a sign of being a moron, it is a sign of a lack of trust in our leaders, and it is well deserved.
"Sinerios"?!? Wtf, over? Is that some kind of mathematical breakfast cereal?
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