over the last few months, Casters Relm public forum mods have been weeding out any one posting liberal biased information. a small conservitive leaning group has organized a quiet take over of one of the more popular gaming website forums.
while no acknolegement of actual policy can be gotten from the site addministraiters, anyone posting liberal views, or attaking conservitive posts gets the boot.
how many others?...........
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Are you this person? http://forums.crgaming.com/eqbb/viewtopic.php?t=95181
why do you ask?
was that the last liberal to get the boot?
was that the last liberal to get the boot?
I spent 5 minutes skimming threads.
Yes, I agree there are many more Righties there than Lefties there.
But I can't say anything about bias in Administrator moderation since I haven't been reading or posting there regularly.
Anyone stupid enough to post on Caster's Realm deserves whatever they get. Be it a banning or a swift kick in the nuts.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
i went there to check it out after someone mentioned it on the necro board.
made up a name, "mako" and a password "greatwhite" and was banned within three or four posts with a liberal slant to them. no name calling, no insults, just a liberal slant to a couple posts already there.
do a search on their page with my name, mako, and see if you find it insulting enough to get banned for.
there seems to be just a small number of posters dominating the board. anything liberal gets slammed in a hurry, and if your consistant, banned without any warning.
it is their right of coarse, but shouldnt there be some type of warning? like "affiliate of fox news" in the header or something?
made up a name, "mako" and a password "greatwhite" and was banned within three or four posts with a liberal slant to them. no name calling, no insults, just a liberal slant to a couple posts already there.
do a search on their page with my name, mako, and see if you find it insulting enough to get banned for.
there seems to be just a small number of posters dominating the board. anything liberal gets slammed in a hurry, and if your consistant, banned without any warning.
it is their right of coarse, but shouldnt there be some type of warning? like "affiliate of fox news" in the header or something?
I ran a search for your name, and apparently you WERE that person I linked to.
They caught you making a sockpuppet (checked your IP) and banned you. It's here.
Oppps caught again!!!Welcome to Oot!!!
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ran a search for your name, and apparently you WERE that person I linked to.
They caught you making a sockpuppet (checked your IP) and banned you. It's here.
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internet 101. ip addresses are random. you cannot identify someone with an ip address unless they have a fixed address, and i dont know of any internet service that usses a fixed address other than a bussiness with an internal system.
you can see the ip address someone used. but that ip address could end up belonging to someone else the next time you log on.
a typical internet service, like say earthlink, mine, has millions of ip address that get assigned when someone logs on.
bannning an ip adress is BS. i could minimixe this post, reboot my modem, and finnish this post with a differant ip address than the one i used to start it with.
but nuff said. most of you already know this, and probably the person posting this knows it too.
they COULD ban your user name associated with your e-mail address.
Edited, Fri Sep 3 17:55:48 2004 by shadowrelm
They caught you making a sockpuppet (checked your IP) and banned you. It's here.
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internet 101. ip addresses are random. you cannot identify someone with an ip address unless they have a fixed address, and i dont know of any internet service that usses a fixed address other than a bussiness with an internal system.
you can see the ip address someone used. but that ip address could end up belonging to someone else the next time you log on.
a typical internet service, like say earthlink, mine, has millions of ip address that get assigned when someone logs on.
bannning an ip adress is BS. i could minimixe this post, reboot my modem, and finnish this post with a differant ip address than the one i used to start it with.
but nuff said. most of you already know this, and probably the person posting this knows it too.
they COULD ban your user name associated with your e-mail address.
Edited, Fri Sep 3 17:55:48 2004 by shadowrelm
ohh, forgot...
BIOTCH
BIOTCH
Those CR dudes were jerks, though. We should challenge them to a Flame Rumble.
no point.
all you would end up doing is getting their worst to come here and the rest of us would have to endure the worst from both boards ranting on to no end.
the conservative mentality is like Bush,s war mentality. you are either with us or counted amoung our enemy. devisive.
they have a right to censor their board any way they choose. controlling public forums is their "status quo" so to speak. but just like the Republican Convention, you can surround yourself with "yes men" to put on an air of consensus, but it will not stop people from speaking their mind, like the hundreds of thousands of protesters outside their little club house.
but mabe someone could post a link to their board in the GOP website.....where it belongs.
Edited, Fri Sep 3 19:04:40 2004 by shadowrelm
all you would end up doing is getting their worst to come here and the rest of us would have to endure the worst from both boards ranting on to no end.
the conservative mentality is like Bush,s war mentality. you are either with us or counted amoung our enemy. devisive.
they have a right to censor their board any way they choose. controlling public forums is their "status quo" so to speak. but just like the Republican Convention, you can surround yourself with "yes men" to put on an air of consensus, but it will not stop people from speaking their mind, like the hundreds of thousands of protesters outside their little club house.
but mabe someone could post a link to their board in the GOP website.....where it belongs.
Edited, Fri Sep 3 19:04:40 2004 by shadowrelm
I have earthlink and I have a static IP address, by the way. You have to pay a little extra for it, if I remember correctly.
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But I can't say anything about bias in Administrator moderation since I haven't been reading or posting there regularly.
I was actually thinking about starting a topic like this.
To answer your question, a mod there banned a poster, simply because he was a liberal and would try to defend a liberal point of view. I have to admit that he wasn't very articulate, but would try to keep the righties in line, but the mod there decided that this was disruptive, so he got banned. He didn't break any of the forum rules, didn't make threats, unlike the freepers there.
I hate to say it, but I used to visit the CR boards before, but stopped because of all of the stupid conservatives there.
When Fahrenheit 9/11 came out, the conservatives there, meaning the majority who posted on it in their OOT forum, of course tried to accuse Moore of being a liar, etc. I asked politely if any of them had actually seen it and if not, how could they criticize it? I also asked if they someone could point out the inaccuracies in it, so I could see where he was wrong. Simple enough question right?
I asked the conservatives what they had to fear if Moore was just telling lies. The response I got was along the lines of -
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"Do you realize now just how insipid that "what do they have to fear, if they are all lies?" argument is? Or are you totally ignorant of history?
When lies and unsupported accusations are given widespread traffic and approbrium and the truth (or even "the opposing view") is not, bad things happen."
When lies and unsupported accusations are given widespread traffic and approbrium and the truth (or even "the opposing view") is not, bad things happen."
I kindly pointed out to this person that according to his/her post, then the film would be a benefit for the country since Moore's film would be the opposing viewpoint, which apparently is necessary to prevent bad things from happening. I also inquired as to what kind of information the American public, and the world, for that matter have been getting for the last 2 years? The mainstream media has been making the case for war for the administration for the last 2 years. I mean, if that weren't the case, then why the hell did, what was it?, like 70% of the American public believe that Saddam Hussein had ties to Al Qaeda? When in fact no credible evidence was ever brought forth to support that claim! What kind of response have I gotten to that question? None. Abso-freaking-lutely none. Why, because how could he answer that question without sounding like a dumbass?
Long post, but the righties there just really pissed me off.
Edited, Sat Sep 4 01:15:15 2004 by kundalini
The mainstream media has been making the case for war for the administration for the last 2 years. I mean, if that weren't the case, then why the hell did, what was it?, like 70% of the American public believe that Saddam Hussein had ties to Al Qaeda?
i can answer this question for you. in every speach from the whitehouse concerning terrorism or Iraq, every one including President Bush,s acceptance speach, Iraq and Al Queda have been used in the same sentance repeatedly. The Addministraition did not come right out and say they are connected, EVER, but they put the two entities together every time they spoke about the subject and let you make the connection.
it is missleading, it was absolutly intentional to get the support from the american people for a war that would otherwise be unsupportable.
infact, during President Bush,s acceptance speach, he moved away from the WMD - immenant threat platform and pushed towards a "prevention" platform for justification of the Iraq war. and again, he cited 9-11 as the reason for being pro-active with Iraq. again, he linked Iraq with 9-11 without saying they are connected and let you make the connection where their is none.
what bothers me the most, like this web site issue, is the media is supposed to be our watchdogs. they are the ones who are supposed to sound the BS alarm, and ask the ugly questions.
the conservitive party shot our watchdog. Fox news is the most blatent example. it is time for another tea party.
i can answer this question for you. in every speach from the whitehouse concerning terrorism or Iraq, every one including President Bush,s acceptance speach, Iraq and Al Queda have been used in the same sentance repeatedly. The Addministraition did not come right out and say they are connected, EVER, but they put the two entities together every time they spoke about the subject and let you make the connection.
it is missleading, it was absolutly intentional to get the support from the american people for a war that would otherwise be unsupportable.
infact, during President Bush,s acceptance speach, he moved away from the WMD - immenant threat platform and pushed towards a "prevention" platform for justification of the Iraq war. and again, he cited 9-11 as the reason for being pro-active with Iraq. again, he linked Iraq with 9-11 without saying they are connected and let you make the connection where their is none.
what bothers me the most, like this web site issue, is the media is supposed to be our watchdogs. they are the ones who are supposed to sound the BS alarm, and ask the ugly questions.
the conservitive party shot our watchdog. Fox news is the most blatent example. it is time for another tea party.
So what's the problem? It sounds like they run a tight ship over there at Caster's Realm. Any mushy minded posts or posters get the boot because they obviously aren't smart enough to see the fallacy of the liberal way of thinking, ergo, they are pruned as deadwood is from a tree.
Alla could stand to follow suit. This board is crawling with Lefties stinking the place up.
Zeig heil!
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Alla could stand to follow suit. This board is crawling with Lefties stinking the place up.
Zeig heil!
Totem
Totem,
It's Sieg Heil.
It's Sieg Heil.
So what's the problem? It sounds like they run a tight ship over there at Caster's Realm. Any mushy minded posts or posters get the boot because they obviously aren't smart enough to see the fallacy of the liberal way of thinking, ergo, they are pruned as deadwood is from a tree.
there really is no problem. just making a statement. and the fallacy of the liberal way is to make way in their judgement that their are other opints of view, and openions, unlike the conservitive way....which is very much like the enemy we fight, it is either their way or you ar the enemy.
same can be said of the **** way i guess, if you want to make the comparison, the old japanese way too for that matter.
oh wait, they all fell, didnt they?
there really is no problem. just making a statement. and the fallacy of the liberal way is to make way in their judgement that their are other opints of view, and openions, unlike the conservitive way....which is very much like the enemy we fight, it is either their way or you ar the enemy.
same can be said of the **** way i guess, if you want to make the comparison, the old japanese way too for that matter.
oh wait, they all fell, didnt they?
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During WW2 many German PoWs were used in England as cheap labour, often as farm-workers or gardeners.
In 1944, one such german PoW was employed by a local council as a gardener in a public park. A hugely popular chap, he was friendly with children and a dedicated and conscientious gardner.
The locals commented that the flower borders and lawns had never looked as good as they did under Willi's care and attention.
So popular was he, that when he was told he could repatriate to Germany in early 1946 he was presented with a commemorative clock by the Mayor and had a well-attended send-off party.
In the spring of 1946 a beautiful display of daffodills and tulips sprung up on the lawn in front of the Town Hall.
The flowers spelled out the words
Heil Hitler
During WW2 many German PoWs were used in England as cheap labour, often as farm-workers or gardeners.
In 1944, one such german PoW was employed by a local council as a gardener in a public park. A hugely popular chap, he was friendly with children and a dedicated and conscientious gardner.
The locals commented that the flower borders and lawns had never looked as good as they did under Willi's care and attention.
So popular was he, that when he was told he could repatriate to Germany in early 1946 he was presented with a commemorative clock by the Mayor and had a well-attended send-off party.
In the spring of 1946 a beautiful display of daffodills and tulips sprung up on the lawn in front of the Town Hall.
The flowers spelled out the words
Heil Hitler
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you aren't likely to get moderated for political stuff over here. If you make a puppet, it will be nuked though. Don't count on a random ip not being noticed.
Welcome to the forum.
Any bets on how long until this guy meets varrusword?
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Any bets on how long until this guy meets varrusword?
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Liebe, only one person has been banned, and that is you. No one else hjas been weeded out or banned as you say. You are still a liar. The thing is a lot of folks defended you, myself included, but then you come back like a fool under the name Mako, and not only do you have the same IP adress, but you post in the same manner grammar wise. It was clear to see you were the same person, and then you made a very hurtful comment about Kanelle, who I might add was one of the others defending you.
You made me look like a fool for defending you, you bit the hand that fed you in the insult to Kanelle, and you were tossed again..
If you had wanted to insult someone, whcih you never really did, it should have been someone other than Kanelle.
You made me look like a fool for defending you, you bit the hand that fed you in the insult to Kanelle, and you were tossed again..
If you had wanted to insult someone, whcih you never really did, it should have been someone other than Kanelle.
/evil grin
Hey! I need an evil grin!
Hey! I need an evil grin!
Lebie_Warlock was a hopeless troll who derailed every thread in OOC for the past 2 years.
If there has EVER been an internet troll on the face of this planet, it is him. Albeit his tactics were not the same as a novice might expect to see someone banned for, but anyone who has been the member of a community for 4 years can see the reasons, even if they do not agree. His was a total goal of hijacking every thread, everyday.
He was disruptive 24/7, and it would not have made a bit of a difference, liberal or not. Thankfully, disruptive activity is well within reason to ban someone, especially after years of getting away with it.
There was no possible way to have a discussion about anything on that board without it being hijacked and totally shot to **** by Lebie, and he got his nuts off on it 24/7.
As for "Liberal" being the reason? That is total ******* and is EXACTLY what he hopes people will believe. It is ******** misinformation by a total troll. You go to CR right now and take a freaking poll of Libs and Cons and you will find that there are just as many of each.
There are the same click of Libs and Cons that you find anywhere, on ANY internet forum....and in NO WAY was his 'liberal' stance the reason. If that were the reason, 6 people on that board posting today would have been gone with him.
It was disruptive trolling, 24-7, non-stop. After 2 years of it, I did not expect any action to EVER be taken against the guy. Now that they have done the right thing, IMO, he wants to cry to the freaking world like a baby. I don't know why he is, considering he has found 3 new audiences that I know of so far.
He has created 3 Sock-puppets since he left, and will create more. That is the way of the troll. He also had 3 identities, each having up to 3k posts, in the past 4 years.
Lebie's favorite term is to call people sheep. I hope you are all prepared to herd him in, because should he make this site his next obsession, you are going to get sick of the wool in your throats.
As for the Admins, and the head Admin there???? They are the best I have seen in my 4 years of being involved in forums. I popped in 2 days ago and read the threads concerning banning the troll. Certa tried hard to find reasons NOT to ban him, and conferred with the community first.
Lebie popped up and said "BAN ME" in an idiotic dare that he thought would fall short and fall in his favor. He screwed up, and the troll got what he deserved.
EVERY forum has extremes on both sides. MOST of the time they are just staying with their beliefs and adding something to the conversations, reagrdless of education or language. Lebie was NOT there for that, he was there for the thrill of leading people by the nose and derailing every thread and post that he could.
While many of the folks in CR have stated that they disagree with the banning, you can bet your *** no one is sad to see him gone. Count on it.
And should he make this forum home for his new identity, and his other sock-puppets, you are in for a grand ole time.
Good luck.
If there has EVER been an internet troll on the face of this planet, it is him. Albeit his tactics were not the same as a novice might expect to see someone banned for, but anyone who has been the member of a community for 4 years can see the reasons, even if they do not agree. His was a total goal of hijacking every thread, everyday.
He was disruptive 24/7, and it would not have made a bit of a difference, liberal or not. Thankfully, disruptive activity is well within reason to ban someone, especially after years of getting away with it.
There was no possible way to have a discussion about anything on that board without it being hijacked and totally shot to **** by Lebie, and he got his nuts off on it 24/7.
As for "Liberal" being the reason? That is total ******* and is EXACTLY what he hopes people will believe. It is ******** misinformation by a total troll. You go to CR right now and take a freaking poll of Libs and Cons and you will find that there are just as many of each.
There are the same click of Libs and Cons that you find anywhere, on ANY internet forum....and in NO WAY was his 'liberal' stance the reason. If that were the reason, 6 people on that board posting today would have been gone with him.
It was disruptive trolling, 24-7, non-stop. After 2 years of it, I did not expect any action to EVER be taken against the guy. Now that they have done the right thing, IMO, he wants to cry to the freaking world like a baby. I don't know why he is, considering he has found 3 new audiences that I know of so far.
He has created 3 Sock-puppets since he left, and will create more. That is the way of the troll. He also had 3 identities, each having up to 3k posts, in the past 4 years.
Lebie's favorite term is to call people sheep. I hope you are all prepared to herd him in, because should he make this site his next obsession, you are going to get sick of the wool in your throats.
As for the Admins, and the head Admin there???? They are the best I have seen in my 4 years of being involved in forums. I popped in 2 days ago and read the threads concerning banning the troll. Certa tried hard to find reasons NOT to ban him, and conferred with the community first.
Lebie popped up and said "BAN ME" in an idiotic dare that he thought would fall short and fall in his favor. He screwed up, and the troll got what he deserved.
EVERY forum has extremes on both sides. MOST of the time they are just staying with their beliefs and adding something to the conversations, reagrdless of education or language. Lebie was NOT there for that, he was there for the thrill of leading people by the nose and derailing every thread and post that he could.
While many of the folks in CR have stated that they disagree with the banning, you can bet your *** no one is sad to see him gone. Count on it.
And should he make this forum home for his new identity, and his other sock-puppets, you are in for a grand ole time.
Good luck.
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You made me look like a fool for defending you
Welcome to the club. While Lebie was pretty-much confined to the GD forum, I would often dissect his posts and point out the things that were NOT lies, and NOT misinformation, and have a conversation with him.
I defended him more than once, helped show that Taniwha and Cleric_Frog were one-in-the-same and had an obsession with banning Lebie worse than Lebie had an obsession with lieing.
When Lebie came over to the OOC forum, after being basically ran off from GD, he stopped being just an obsessed liar, and became an obsessed, lying, disruptive, derailing TROLL.
I made a post, a specific post where I changed my mind on Lebie...when it became evident just exactly what he was up to and what he gets his rocks off on. I made a post, and he knows it, and can remember it I bet....where I said I was through with niceties and trying to get along. Apparently so was everyone else in OOC.
While everyone can debate the 'rules, regulations, and points' concerning of when a ban is just a ban, and when mods have become *****, trust me. There was no Hitler in OOC.
I can count the number of people banned from OOC for something other than spamming illegal advertisements and dangerous links on one hand minus a couple of fingers.
This was long overdue, IMO, and it won't be long before that becomes evident right here.
/last :)
I like my spelling better, kundalini. Gives it a more Austrian/Swarzeneggerian flavor. Kinda like "Kali-fournia."
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It's not really a matter of spelling, but translation
Sieg Heil = Hail Victory!
Zeig Heil = something akin to Show me, Hail!
Sieg Heil = Hail Victory!
Zeig Heil = something akin to Show me, Hail!
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