In my case it was a joint decision, we were together for another year after that then we broke up.
"it's murder plain and simple abstinence or take responsibilty dont sugar coat it and say it was for the child...you caused it fix it, even if you dont "love" the child do your best at being a mother. Even if its hard and tedious...don't just end a life because of your reckless irresponsible actions."
Maybe this was just said for the sake of argument, but I suggest you consider what happens to children who are not wanted by their parents. The one thing a child needs to develop self-esteem is the full confidence that their parents love them and want them.
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Eritson,
Just wanted to say that what you posted was real.
Just wanted to say that what you posted was real.
"it's murder plain and simple abstinence or take responsibilty dont sugar coat it and say it was for the child...you caused it fix it, even if you dont "love" the child do your best at being a mother. Even if its hard and tedious...don't just end a life because of your reckless irresponsible actions."
Maybe this was just said for the sake of argument
I was said out of reflex, driven from a morality trained to a point of thoughtless blind obidence from an early age.
Thank you for sharing your deeply personal experiences, it's meaningfull and I appreciate it.
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Are you planning on having children together or is that off the radar atm?
We do plan on having children together, but she keeps going in for cancer tests/treatment (this is something that sprang up last fall), so the docs say it's not a good idea right now.
For what it's worth. I hope it all works out for the best for both of you. I'd rather see two responsable people be parents then two people who are too screwed up to understand the consiquences of their descision. Just shruging your shoulders and saying "ah well" then going ahead and raising a screwed up child in a poor and/or abusive/neglective family is wrong. The world needs more parents like you and less like the ones who pump out babies for welfare checks.
Well if anyone has had abortion they should also be killed because they are still taking a life, give them the death penalty!!!!
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No child should be forced to have parents that don't want it.
What if one parent wants it and the other does not..What then?
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What if one parent wants it and the other does not..What then?
What was said was:
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No child should be forced to have parents that don't want it.
That means: parents, plural.
Your question is the equivalent of this:
Varus: Welcome to McDonalds. Can I interest you in a hot apple pie for 50 cents?
You: I've got a quarter. Can I buy an apple pie with that?
Sheesh. Regardless of what you think of someone's opinion, at least try to comprehend what they said.
Smash...i'm the most belligerent disobidient as***** i can be(but i at least use a god damn condom), but fetal homicide makes me sick, i can stand regular people being murdered, i mean at least they enjoyed life a bit, but someone who has yet to even delight in a few moments of living...well that takes "some kind" of person to.......have an abortion. It's my opinion, it wont change anything but this is a forum...we are supposed express our thoughts.
Bluie, adoption? Maybe they can have parents that love them, or even if they are not loved whose to say they wont eventually find a girl/guy to care about them? I dont think my parents really care about me.. and yes that causes self-esteem issues..but living is still worth it just to know maybe one in a million but still a chance i'll find something or someone that brings me joy.lol,Prince very thought provoking remarks, this is what i hate about message boards people like you who do nothing to add to the topic, but instead cuss out someone who does, whatever though keep doing it i'll just have to ignore it.
Edited, Fri Aug 27 10:03:16 2004 by seyasuke
Bluie, adoption? Maybe they can have parents that love them, or even if they are not loved whose to say they wont eventually find a girl/guy to care about them? I dont think my parents really care about me.. and yes that causes self-esteem issues..but living is still worth it just to know maybe one in a million but still a chance i'll find something or someone that brings me joy.lol,Prince very thought provoking remarks, this is what i hate about message boards people like you who do nothing to add to the topic, but instead cuss out someone who does, whatever though keep doing it i'll just have to ignore it.
Edited, Fri Aug 27 10:03:16 2004 by seyasuke
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Well if anyone has had abortion they should also be killed because they are still taking a life, give them the death penalty!!!!
I dont think thats what he means, he most likely wrote it in haste because he has very strong emotions towards the subject.
Edited, Fri Aug 27 10:32:03 2004 by seyasuke
Edited, Fri Aug 27 10:32:03 2004 by seyasuke
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No child should be forced to have parents that don't want it.
I'm pro-choice, but I know that if you have a baby you don't want, you can drop it at any hospital or police station, no questions asked. They'd rather that than finding it in a dumpster the next morning.
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I dont think thats what he means
-agrees completely with tricky-
P.S. Nice avatar yanari ^^;
Edited, Fri Aug 27 14:04:29 2004 by seyasuke
P.S. Nice avatar yanari ^^;
Edited, Fri Aug 27 14:04:29 2004 by seyasuke
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I'm pro-choice, but I know that if you have a baby you don't want, you can drop it at any hospital or police station, no questions asked. They'd rather that than finding it in a dumpster the next morning.
Actually this law is only true in some states. It's not everywhere yet, but theyre working on it. Mothers who drop their child off in states that dont have this actually have the police looking for them the moment they find the baby on the doorstep.
I cant wait for this to go through everywhere. What a great chance for the child. I'm a mother myself and my heart breaks each time I hear a story about a child found dead in a dumpster.
Edited, Fri Aug 27 14:21:23 2004 by deadsidedemon
A I'm not a pro-life zealot but I do always wonder what the conceivabilty of ending a life because we think circumstances won't be optimal for a child to live (or even decent), says about how much value we place on life in general.
I can understand the fear two people would have after conceiving a child and realizing how dramtic and life changing this could be, and also realizing that they are in no way ready to take on that responsibility. But to make a decision to terminate a living human organism due to inconvenience just seems cold. We would never kill a 3 year old living in the ghetto or in a warzone because all signs point to them having a ****** up life, so what is the difference.
Maybe it's because life hasn't been so bad for me that I place a higher value on it than others. In my opinion, the greatest gift a person can receive(whether you belive its from God or your parents) is the gift of life. A chance to do whatever the hell it is you're going to do. Maybe if I looked out my window an watching people get butchered as I sat thinking where my next meal was coming from I would have a different attitude and would only put value on life being lived well instead of living at all. The question is, which view is healthier? The answer to this is more than just politics. It goes right to the very base of society, to the natural instincts of survival within every individual.
edit: I realize this post assumes that life begins at or near conception. If you believe otherwise then thats a whole other situation and/or debate. So if people aren't people until they are born then I would understand why the things expressed in this post would not matter
Edited, Fri Aug 27 14:45:49 2004 by Madvilln
I can understand the fear two people would have after conceiving a child and realizing how dramtic and life changing this could be, and also realizing that they are in no way ready to take on that responsibility. But to make a decision to terminate a living human organism due to inconvenience just seems cold. We would never kill a 3 year old living in the ghetto or in a warzone because all signs point to them having a ****** up life, so what is the difference.
Maybe it's because life hasn't been so bad for me that I place a higher value on it than others. In my opinion, the greatest gift a person can receive(whether you belive its from God or your parents) is the gift of life. A chance to do whatever the hell it is you're going to do. Maybe if I looked out my window an watching people get butchered as I sat thinking where my next meal was coming from I would have a different attitude and would only put value on life being lived well instead of living at all. The question is, which view is healthier? The answer to this is more than just politics. It goes right to the very base of society, to the natural instincts of survival within every individual.
edit: I realize this post assumes that life begins at or near conception. If you believe otherwise then thats a whole other situation and/or debate. So if people aren't people until they are born then I would understand why the things expressed in this post would not matter
Edited, Fri Aug 27 14:45:49 2004 by Madvilln
The other side of the coin for me is that no woman should be forced to go through the experience of pregnancy or give birth if she doesn't want to. At the time a woman falls pregnant, her quality of life and plans for life are far more important than any potential possessed by a tiny embryo.
When it happened to me, I was 19, and it was only a few months after the death of my alcoholic father who'd been ill for many years. With my sister and mother, we were trying to get our lives back on track.
I totally support first trimester terminations. If you're against it on religious grounds you are free to follow your conscience. Just let me have the same freedom to follow mine. I believe in the right of a woman to choose, and for some people, giving up a child for adoption is not an option.
When it happened to me, I was 19, and it was only a few months after the death of my alcoholic father who'd been ill for many years. With my sister and mother, we were trying to get our lives back on track.
I totally support first trimester terminations. If you're against it on religious grounds you are free to follow your conscience. Just let me have the same freedom to follow mine. I believe in the right of a woman to choose, and for some people, giving up a child for adoption is not an option.
As you pointed out in a different thread I had my pregnant girlfriend in an illicit relationship hidden from my wife get one. I am now vehemently in favor of killing all the li'l bastards for the sake of cash strapped deadbeat Dads everywhere.
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As you pointed out in a different thread I had my pregnant girlfriend in an illicit relationship hidden from my wife get one. I am now vehemently in favor of killing all the li'l bastards for the sake of cash strapped deadbeat Dads everywhere.
Anything that limits your contribution to the gene pool, buddy.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
As you pointed out in a different thread I had my pregnant girlfriend in an illicit relationship hidden from my wife get one. I am now vehemently in favor of killing all the li'l bastards for the sake of cash strapped deadbeat Dads everywhere.
Lets play the "Guess whose going to hell game"!
-Raises hand- ... different reason......she was like that when i got there >.>
Lets play the "Guess whose going to hell game"!
-Raises hand- ... different reason......she was like that when i got there >.>
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