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#1 Aug 12 2004 at 4:51 PM Rating: Decent
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first subject posted here. please dont eat me ><

okay, generally speaking, all i have to do is lay my head down and close my eyes and i will be asleep within moments. i start to dream almost instantly.

my boyfriend thinks this is odd and says he has never seen anyone begin dreaming so quickly (REM, talking, all that stuff to clue him in). i seem to vaguely remember something from psychology class about REM and not dreaming until you are at a certain "level" of sleep. i havent paid any attention to when other people begin to dream, because i'm always the first asleep ^^; when i have asked other people i know, they say they have no idea when they start dreaming. i've nodded off for a few minutes and woken from a dream, so i *know*. i would assume these people would know if they did as well.

does anyone else experience the same thing? or know anything about sleep patterns? ^^


#2 Aug 12 2004 at 5:35 PM Rating: Default
All I know from my psych classes is that it does generally take about 1.5 hours for an average person to reach a state of R.E.M.
#3 Aug 12 2004 at 5:37 PM Rating: Decent
In my experience, I only dream vividly when I am in a light sleep. If I wake up to the alarm and hit snooze, I usually dream, and rememeber that dream, more oftan than when I am in a deep sleep.

And REM sleep is not just eye movement, there is also a change in brain waves and activity. I doubt you almost automatically go into true REM sleep. I have a friend that twitches and talk when he starts to go to sleep.

And it's no fair that you are able to go to sleep quickly. The average amount of time it takes a person to go to sleep is 7 minutes. And like usual, I am way above average. :)
#5 Aug 12 2004 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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what does REM stand for?


Rapid Eye Movement.
#6 Aug 12 2004 at 6:37 PM Rating: Decent
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If I wake up to the alarm and hit snooze, I usually dream, and rememeber that dream, more oftan than when I am in a deep sleep.

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I have a friend that twitches and talk when he starts to go to sleep.


that's the kind of response i was really looking for i guess. i didnt figure it was that weird myself.

i have noticed the same thing. often i will get woken up moments after i fall asleep (bf is playing castlevania loudly, cat jumps on me, what have you) and the images i remember are vivid, chaotic, and loud, but make little sense. if i am asleep for a bit longer, like 5 minutes plus and get woken up, i can tell you what i was dreaming about because its a lot more.. i dunno, structured i guess. but yes, much easier than later recalling dreams i had during deep sleep in the morning.

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And it's no fair that you are able to go to sleep quickly. The average amount of time it takes a person to go to sleep is 7 minutes. And like usual, I am way above average. :)


yeah, this pissed my ex right off ^^; my boyfriend now just finds it incredibly amusing to watch me trying to talk or make faces and then wake me to ask what i was just dreaming about.
#7 Aug 12 2004 at 8:08 PM Rating: Decent
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In my experience, I only dream vividly when I am in a light sleep
Just because you remember those dreams more doesn't mean they're more vivid dreams.
#8 Aug 12 2004 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
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okay, generally speaking, all i have to do is lay my head down and close my eyes and i will be asleep within moments. i start to dream almost instantly.


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#9 Aug 12 2004 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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It usually takes me half and hour to an hour to even get to sleep.

The fact that you fall asleep so quickly is amazing to me.
#10 Aug 12 2004 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, me too. It takes me a while to get to sleep. I hate people who can lie down, and are out cold within five minutes, it makes me so jealous.
#11 Aug 13 2004 at 7:07 AM Rating: Decent
ummm whats sleep
#12 Aug 13 2004 at 7:31 AM Rating: Default
Sleep! I need some of that..
#13 Aug 13 2004 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
Going to sleep is somehting you can actually train yourself to.

I read up on a couple of relaxation methods and such a few years ago and tried some of them with varying success. The end result was that I didn't conciously use any of that crap for long (I'm too lazy) but now I can go to sleep pretty much any time or place I like.

I don't care if it's noisy or I have to lean on a wall to do it. I can sleep. And it usually takes me around 3-5 minutes from time I settle down to zzzzzz.

Probably the coolest thing is that I run off far less sleep than I once did. Could just be normal metabolism change. Whatever it is, I like it. Five hours of shuteye and I'm golden.
#14 Aug 13 2004 at 11:02 AM Rating: Default
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it depends on how sleepy you are. the sleepier you are the more your brain needs a dream.

ive probably had every kind of sleep possible except narcolepsy(sp?) from those dozing off and i dream and feel like im falling and waking right up. lucid dreams, nights with dreams i cant remember, 36 hours awake dream with eyes open while playing final fantasy xi, nutmeg hallucination dreams. but i can believe the instant rem because ive had some of that, along with unsleepable nights.
#15 Aug 13 2004 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm strange when it comes to sleeping..Sometimes i fall asleep nearly instantly, sometimes it takes me hours. I really have no idea how long it takes me to begin dreaming. I don't, always.
And on another sleeping note, Who dreams in color, and who dreams in black and white? I dream in color, almost every single time i dream.

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#16 Aug 13 2004 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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Ive been having weird dreams lately were i know im dreaming. It's like I'll be in middle of dream not conscious at all, just going along with it and then bam its like, I'm me, I know I am asleep, and I am like "this is a dream" and i react accordingly.

Very odd. Dont know if that happens to other people, but mainly for me i usually just dream and whatever happens. happens and i just remember it in the morning.

Like a dream where i try to stop someone from doing something and they just keep doing it. Now i dream and realize its a dream try to argue rationally with them and if that doesnt work ill just leave because im like its a dream.

Hard to explain without sounding like im on crack.
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#17 Aug 13 2004 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Actully, what you experience during dreams where you can interact within them is not strange at all, its actully called lucid dreaming. Any one of us has the ability to lucid dream, but most of us dont know how to tap into that abaility. Alot of people who want to learn this technique aquire a pair of dreaming glasses that detect when your dreaming, and then has some sort of signal to let you know your dreaming so then you can subconciously start interacting with your dream

The fact that you taught yourself this trait is very cool and you should be greatful for it.

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#18 Aug 13 2004 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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Okay now i know what it is and such. I can also wake myself up from a bad dream. Is that also part of lucid dreaming?
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#19 Aug 13 2004 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Actully, what you experience during dreams where you can interact within them is not strange at all, its actully called lucid dreaming. Any one of us has the ability to lucid dream, but most of us dont know how to tap into that abaility. Alot of people who want to learn this technique aquire a pair of dreaming glasses that detect when your dreaming, and then has some sort of signal to let you know your dreaming so then you can subconciously start interacting with your dream


Then they buy biofeedback machines and crystals and watch that lunatic on the Sci Fi channel talking to their dead relatives.

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#20 Aug 13 2004 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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What you are experiencing is more like a vivid daydream instead of an actual dream experienced in the 3rd level of sleep.
#21 Aug 13 2004 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Then they buy biofeedback machines and crystals and watch that lunatic on the Sci Fi channel talking to their dead relatives.
Hate to burst your bubble Smash, but this ability isn't only in the province of crackpots.

I've purposely woken myself out of dreams a number of times, or wilfully discontinued a particular dream.
#22 Aug 13 2004 at 8:55 PM Rating: Decent
My wife says I mumble to myself right as I go to sleep. For some reason I do this far more when I am sleeping in a sort of half sitting position - which I only do when I'm sick, so perhaps it is that I'm sick that causes the mumblings. She has to wake me up if I am mumbling a lecture because I have this deep public speaking voice that is pretty different from my normal tone of voice and, when mumbled, is disturbing, apparently.

However, unlike eris, it usually takes quite an effort for me to go to sleep and I sleep pretty lightly. Often I wake up when my wife starts breathing faster in her sleep - usually because she is having a bad dream - and wake her from it. We've done this for years, now, and it's pretty rare she wakes from a bad dream herself anymore (although I guess I am starting to slip recently). When we first were...um...coupling she was really impressed by this ability.

Anyhow, to Yanari, I was going to say I also can wake myself out of dreams. For me, I usually find logical inconsistencies and just state 'ok, this is a dream'. And that actually worked for a while but recently I generally just wake from that dream into yet another dream - beginning with me just waking up. Some of these dreams are so vivid I actually get confused when I wake up and look in the fridge or look on my desk because it was different in the dream yet it was so vivid I'm confused.
#23 Aug 14 2004 at 12:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't mind logical inconsistancies. Usually the more kooky a dream is, the more it amuses me. I wish I was better at remembering them.

If I have a very disturbing or frightening dream I'll think (while still in the dream) "I don't like this dream and I'm stopping it now". The first time I did it I was kind of surprised (and relieved). Since that first time though, I've been able to do it at will. Sometimes I wake up, usually I think I just bring myself out of the REM state.
#24 Aug 16 2004 at 11:08 AM Rating: Default
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i have had a few lucid dreams, but its hard to keep that state, its like the thin line between love and hate, except one side is the dream is believable, cant get lucid, and the other side is, this must be a dream, okay that does it, ***** you guys im going home, talking poo is where i draw the line. to balance on that thin line in the middle is HARD. youre always one thought away from waking once you realize youre dreaming.
#25 Aug 16 2004 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
Yanari the Puissant wrote:
I don't mind logical inconsistancies. Usually the more kooky a dream is, the more it amuses me. I wish I was better at remembering them.

If I have a very disturbing or frightening dream I'll think (while still in the dream) "I don't like this dream and I'm stopping it now". The first time I did it I was kind of surprised (and relieved). Since that first time though, I've been able to do it at will. Sometimes I wake up, usually I think I just bring myself out of the REM state.


It's usually in bad dreams that I latch on to a logical inconsistency to try to wake myself. (For example, I dream I'm driving North on the Pacific Coast Highway at night and can't control the car and it goes off the edge. I'm panicing but I see the moon straight ahead and realize the moon can't be in the North as it moves East-West - no matter what the song in the Last Unicorn says, on Earth you'll never look North and see a pale moon rising, at least not so long as we haven't done something naughty to the moon:
http://www.space.com/news/spacehistory/nuke_moon_000514.html )
#26 Aug 16 2004 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
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i start to dream almost instantly.


No you don't.


She might do, depends what your definition of "almost instantly is", it is no set time, and 2 hours might be "almost instant" to eris.
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