read an article in Prevention Magazine that I found very disturbing...
Pharmacists and doctors are refusing women birth control because they think it is wrong.
What about people with health problems like myself who need the pill to function in everyday life. Without the pill I would be forced to take 3 days off a month from any job I get.
I am one of many women who suffer from endometriosis. Luckily I have a minimal case, but enough to put me out of action for 3 days a month without the pill. The pain is so intense I pass out, and once I come to, I projectile vomit. I was diagnosed in High School at the age of 17. My parents fought with me when the OB-GYN wanted me to go on the Pill being very devout Catholics. Eventually they gave in because it was obviously a handicap for me. I went to a Catholic High School, and my senior year my Theology teacher called me the Spawn of Satan because I was on Birth Control. Didnt matter that I was on it for medical reasons.
When I started on the pill, insurance didn't cover it. Out of pocket I had to pay for the medicine that just may save my ferility later in life.
When viagra came out, insurance covered it.
And now women like myself are being denied the pill for moral reasons? Are these same pharmacists and doctors asking patients before they provide viagra to men the question "Are you going to be using this prescription for intercourse with your wife or your mistress?"
::sigh:: I just hope that I am not denied something that is vital for me to function.
I just dont understand people... guess I never will.
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That sux,feel srry for you.GL to you
People with theological qualms may not be best suited for medicine some times. Nothing against it but when it prevents you from doing perfectly legal work theres a problem.
The woman from the article lived in Texas, what state are you in?
Small town or big city?
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I know it sux haveing to take pills all the time.
I dated a girl who has the same problems as you, only hers was so severe to the point of actually having one of her ovaries taken out. She would get pains once a month, and several times I had to take her to the hospital. She didn't have medical insurance, so she couldn't get the pill, she didn't make enough money. Which sucked.
Anyways, I feel your pain on this and hope there is no pill ban.
Anyways, I feel your pain on this and hope there is no pill ban.
I live in Connecticut.
Luckily I have a woman who is like a surrogate mother for me who happens to be a pharmacist. I was the nanny for her two boys for 10 years. If my current pharmacist refuses to fill my prescription next week when it gets renewed, I can go to her with my problem =/
But for the women out there with this problem, it is a very scary thought, and the girl without the health insurance... that makes it worse. Its bad enough we have to pay a good chunk of the money for the prescription as is, but to not have any coverage =/ ouch.
I really dont understand people sometimes. Taking the pill can prevent the worsening of the condition (in some cases) and stop the need for surgery later in life (and may I add it is an INTENSLY painful surgery from what my sister-in-law tells me)
How ethical is subjecting a woman to intense pain for the rest of her life because the hormones run a chance of sloughin off a fertilized egg. Do these people realize that 80-90% of fertilized eggs never implant in the uterus in a healthy woman who is not on birth control pills?
Bah... The doctors who refuse I have to say Shame on you. You take an oath, "Do no harm" by refusing people this medicine you are doing them harm. Do pharmacists have an oath like that?
Luckily I have a woman who is like a surrogate mother for me who happens to be a pharmacist. I was the nanny for her two boys for 10 years. If my current pharmacist refuses to fill my prescription next week when it gets renewed, I can go to her with my problem =/
But for the women out there with this problem, it is a very scary thought, and the girl without the health insurance... that makes it worse. Its bad enough we have to pay a good chunk of the money for the prescription as is, but to not have any coverage =/ ouch.
I really dont understand people sometimes. Taking the pill can prevent the worsening of the condition (in some cases) and stop the need for surgery later in life (and may I add it is an INTENSLY painful surgery from what my sister-in-law tells me)
How ethical is subjecting a woman to intense pain for the rest of her life because the hormones run a chance of sloughin off a fertilized egg. Do these people realize that 80-90% of fertilized eggs never implant in the uterus in a healthy woman who is not on birth control pills?
Bah... The doctors who refuse I have to say Shame on you. You take an oath, "Do no harm" by refusing people this medicine you are doing them harm. Do pharmacists have an oath like that?
This topic really disturbs me too. Obviously the pill is good medically, but also arnt we trying to cut down teen pregnancies?
Good luck doing that if girls cant have access to the pill.
Also this whole ordeal is just sexist to me not religious. A man can sleep with hundreds of women and not worry about getting pregnant and will be see as "the man" However a woman can sleep with ONE man,get pregnant out of wedlock, and people will "damn" her. Its just way not fair.
* Whats next? Are they going to take away our RIGHT to vote?*
I say let a woman do what she wants with her body, men can. And those doctors and pharmisists who refuse to give women access to birth control should have their nuts chopped off.
Anyway just the opinion of a woman on birthcontrol.
*My spelling isnt the greatest*
Edited, Sun Jul 18 15:12:23 2004 by LeelouGaruda
Edited, Sun Jul 18 15:41:14 2004 by LeelouGaruda
Good luck doing that if girls cant have access to the pill.
Also this whole ordeal is just sexist to me not religious. A man can sleep with hundreds of women and not worry about getting pregnant and will be see as "the man" However a woman can sleep with ONE man,get pregnant out of wedlock, and people will "damn" her. Its just way not fair.
* Whats next? Are they going to take away our RIGHT to vote?*
I say let a woman do what she wants with her body, men can. And those doctors and pharmisists who refuse to give women access to birth control should have their nuts chopped off.
Anyway just the opinion of a woman on birthcontrol.
*My spelling isnt the greatest*
Edited, Sun Jul 18 15:12:23 2004 by LeelouGaruda
Edited, Sun Jul 18 15:41:14 2004 by LeelouGaruda
Wow. To judge from your avatard, you are the homeliest and most Ron Jeremy-est looking woman I've ever laid eyes on, Gaianadawn. Perhaps your GYN problems stem from being fat and STD ridden rather than anything to do with endometriosis? After all, having unprotected sex with thousands of porno dudes can't be good for the coochie...
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"People with theological qualms may not be best suited for medicine some times. Nothing against it but when it prevents you from doing perfectly legal work theres a problem." --Invisible
Little problems like the legal work involving abortions, Invis?
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Little problems like the legal work involving abortions, Invis?
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And, G? Ask your doc about hormone shot therapy or a hysterectomy. No ethical issues lurking about there...
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A hystorectomy would not be performed on a young woman unless they had cancer that was life threatening. And maybe I do want children some day in the future. In fact I do. And it is going to be painful to get the procedure done to clean out my tubes from the scarring thanks to endometriosis. A friend of mine with a severe case wanted a hystorectomy, and the doctors as well as the insurance company denied her request.
It could have been worse if I was denied the pill. I at least have the chance of having children when I am ready. My fiancee and I have spoken about it and we both acknowledge that we dont want children quite yet, but if it happens, we will welcome the addition.
As for the birthcontrol for pregnancy issues... I dont want to go there... As it is a volatile subject =p I am just saying that no one should be denied a medicine that is necessary... And that includes things like cannibus for people in severe uncontrollable pain.
As for my avatar, he amuses me. Hard to believe a fat balding scary looking man can get a job as a **** star ^^;
It could have been worse if I was denied the pill. I at least have the chance of having children when I am ready. My fiancee and I have spoken about it and we both acknowledge that we dont want children quite yet, but if it happens, we will welcome the addition.
As for the birthcontrol for pregnancy issues... I dont want to go there... As it is a volatile subject =p I am just saying that no one should be denied a medicine that is necessary... And that includes things like cannibus for people in severe uncontrollable pain.
As for my avatar, he amuses me. Hard to believe a fat balding scary looking man can get a job as a **** star ^^;
Heheh, I better not comment on this thread. My karma will from low to nothing fast.
Birthcontrol = good
Edited, Sun Jul 18 17:22:47 2004 by OldSchoolGamer
Birthcontrol = good
Edited, Sun Jul 18 17:22:47 2004 by OldSchoolGamer
Seriously, Gai, good luck with any future pregnancies. That scarring can be real trouble in terms of miscarriages and inability to get preggers.
My wife has had the same difficulties and the choices are grim at times.
/good wishes
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My wife has had the same difficulties and the choices are grim at times.
/good wishes
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Wow amazing. Any Doc or Pharmacist who refused the pill on grounds such as these would get struck off their Register in Australia. My doctor is a Catholic and he's never once even hinted that I shouldn't be on the pill.
Finding it hard to believe that birth control is even a controversial topic any more.
Finding it hard to believe that birth control is even a controversial topic any more.
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If my current pharmacist refuses to fill my prescription
I would think the regional managers from whatever chain this pharmicist works for would have something to say about that. Reputable businesses try to stay theologically and politically neutral if they wish to stay reputable for long.
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I love living in NYC. I can get birth control pills, a family sized tube of KY, a bottle of JD, a personal ***** kit, a carton of smokes, and a large pie all at 4 am without a blink of an eye. So far I still have to make two stops for all of the above. My goal is to pay for it all in one register. It will happen. Oh yes... it will.
Well some stores even wont sell the Pill. Like Wal-mart has been known to refuse to sell birth control pills... yet they have no problem selling condoms... birth control pills are more reliable and have health benefits! 
There is nothing wrong with having moral beliefs against a medication... but denying someone the medicine they need because you think it is wrong is just not kosher!
I mean... would we really want a Jehova's Witness' as our surgeon? (theoretically speaking anyway) Of course Id ont think they would be a surgeon anyway because of their beliefs on blood. But just as an example
"I am sorry I refuse to do this triple bypass surgery (or kidney replacement) to save your life because it goes against my religious beliefs to give you the blood transfusion that will save your life"
O.O;
There is nothing wrong with having moral beliefs against a medication... but denying someone the medicine they need because you think it is wrong is just not kosher!
I mean... would we really want a Jehova's Witness' as our surgeon? (theoretically speaking anyway) Of course Id ont think they would be a surgeon anyway because of their beliefs on blood. But just as an example
"I am sorry I refuse to do this triple bypass surgery (or kidney replacement) to save your life because it goes against my religious beliefs to give you the blood transfusion that will save your life"
O.O;
The state I grew up in (Georgia) always had birth control available through the state health centers. Those are cost controlled. I had 2 girlfriends in high school that got their birth control from there. I had one that had a prescription and filled it at a pharmacy...and it cost 4 times as much. It saddens me to think that Georgia is a 'progressive' state on this issue. But at least it does keep our sisters from getting knocked up...
I'd think a few lawsuits could cure this impulse of pharmacies and doctors to start applying their morals to other people's sex lives. You can tax me to death and abuse me in many ways, but don't mess with my nooky.
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I hope that was sarcasm. Voting is a privilege, not a right. Ask anyone who has said privilege revoked.
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Anyway, I doubt this will gather much momentum. Birth control is here to stay.
I'd think a few lawsuits could cure this impulse of pharmacies and doctors to start applying their morals to other people's sex lives. You can tax me to death and abuse me in many ways, but don't mess with my nooky.
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* Whats next? Are they going to take away our RIGHT to vote?*
I hope that was sarcasm. Voting is a privilege, not a right. Ask anyone who has said privilege revoked.
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Anyway, I doubt this will gather much momentum. Birth control is here to stay.
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I hope that was sarcasm. Voting is a privilege, not a right. Ask anyone who has said privilege revoked.
Since I live in the USA (and never been convicted of a felony) voting IS a RIGHT...for right now anyways, whos to say what will happen in the next 20 years. But still it is a right not a privilege. Remember the constitution or bill of RIGHTS?
Edited, Mon Jul 19 13:39:26 2004 by LeelouGaruda
Edited, Mon Jul 19 13:40:32 2004 by LeelouGaruda
How much does birth control cost anyways?
We have federal BCBS, so we've never paid more than like $5 for a BC prescription.
We have federal BCBS, so we've never paid more than like $5 for a BC prescription.
Well on my oklahoma insurance I have to pay out of pocket $25 per one-month supply.
Heh the real test comes shortly... get my new prescription (I hope) Friday. On new insurance... so I am guessing they arent going to cover the pills.
Before BC was covered by my parents insurance, I had to put up 25 dollars a month for it.
What really gets me... is health insurance covered viagra from the start. There is no real health benefit from taking that drug... It is more like a recreational prescription... and yet insurances have little to no trouble offering it in prescription plans... but try to get a woman a little relief with the Pill and all of a sudden the lines are drawn and you are staring down the barrel of a gun.
As for the people with religious issues as to taking the pill...
God gave me this stupid condition. When He comes down and tells me that I deserve the suffering and that the Pill is evil, then I will stop. I mean geesh...
Anyway... dont mind me too much... bored out of my mind since FFXI is down for mait.
Before BC was covered by my parents insurance, I had to put up 25 dollars a month for it.
What really gets me... is health insurance covered viagra from the start. There is no real health benefit from taking that drug... It is more like a recreational prescription... and yet insurances have little to no trouble offering it in prescription plans... but try to get a woman a little relief with the Pill and all of a sudden the lines are drawn and you are staring down the barrel of a gun.
As for the people with religious issues as to taking the pill...
God gave me this stupid condition. When He comes down and tells me that I deserve the suffering and that the Pill is evil, then I will stop. I mean geesh...
Anyway... dont mind me too much... bored out of my mind since FFXI is down for mait.
I'm sure every doctor and every pharmacist is accountable to some sort of state board or agency.
Find out that is and start writing letters. Just one to each should do. Encourage your friends to do the same. It may seem like an exercize in futility but really, if people don't speak up for themselves and state loud and clear that this is a problem, it will only get worse.
Find out that is and start writing letters. Just one to each should do. Encourage your friends to do the same. It may seem like an exercize in futility but really, if people don't speak up for themselves and state loud and clear that this is a problem, it will only get worse.
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