Are the Atheists or the Religious a bunch o' fools?Follow

Believe in Gord and be saved.





I know it may be old, but it's still semi-funny.

Edited, Fri Jun 4 13:12:54 2004 by Lowwatt

Well, there's the problem. God himself couldn't figure out what the hell you were saying.

Because Satan is a fallen angel that is frozen in the lake Caina

As true as that is, many Christians/religious people do not view things that way. The Bible itself states that everything inside was written through divine inspiration. I don't recall the verse in which it is contained.. However, it is in there.

I've probably said this before, but I choose not to believe in any religion, I'd rather wait for the religion to be proven correct than to be wrong, just me though. On that matter...

How can anybody prove any of them are correct? It's impossible. So, I could say... I believe our present is actually the past of 10 million years in our future, call it a religion and probably get everybody to sign their houses/all worldly belongings to me in exchange for a full Nike sweat suit and shoes. I could tell them that they must run for 14 hours a day in order to reach God while I ride a moped beside them and scream "Run faster, you'll never get to God when you run so slowly!" In effect, I could create a religion of my own... Would it be a cult? Sure, then again, every religion is a cult, some just aren't as widely accepted.

Ya know, I heard he did that on a bet. I managed to read part of one of the dianetics books and ole elron was definately pulling ideas out his ***. It's kinda understandable, he was a pretty decent storyteller (I actually read most of his fiction that was labeled as such)and I can see how people might believe in what he made up.



And is it just me or is halodude pretty much repeating what I said only disjointed and mangled? Were I an admin (thank dog I'm not) I't'd be an excercise in willpower not to edit it to make it easier on the brain.





wasn't he supposed to have done that already?

Maybe the problem is that you don't know what the word means. Allow me to provide you with a definition you can find in any dictionary:

atheism

noun
1: the doctrine or belief that there is no God [syn: godlessness] [ant: theism]
2: a lack of belief in the existence of God or gods

Where in that definition do you see anything about atheists not knowing what to believe?

Peruse a couple pages of this thread Are you *expletive deleted* kidding me? and you'll read all sorts of strongly worded statements by people you claim don't know what to believe in regards to god or a higher power.

I'm an atheist. Here are some of the things I believe:

There is no god or any other form of higher power.

Human beings are responsible for their own lives.

There is neither reward nor punishment awaiting us when we die.

It's presumptuous of me, but I feel pretty safe in saying the other known atheists of this forum share these basic beliefs.

Your post actually sounds like the statement of someone who believes in a god, but enjoys saying they don't just to be unique and provocative.

Edited, Mon Jun 7 02:07:29 2004 by Yanari

Ghosts? No. Voodoo? I believe it's a religion that some people practice.

Hell is a tool man uses to punish himself for his guilt.

As an Atheist i am in complete agreement.

What has made me Atheist? A couple of things:

1. i read the book of mormon and the things held therein are proof enough that organised religion is about control and power and little to do with salvation.

2. The complete lack of evidance for any of the claims made by the bible and or other religious text. The thoelogy held in David Eddings Belgariad are more believable than some religious texts.

3. Lack of justice in relation to actions taken. If you cheat , steal, lie and have little regard for other humans you will generally get further in life. <i point to the present president of the USA as an example of this fact>
If thier was a God why would i posibly be expected to worship him when thier is some much suffering in the world as a direct result of what would be his actions.
"Hey Turkey seem to be a good god fearing nation lets set off a couple of earthquakes that'll cheer the bastards up"

In Dante's Inferno, the very center of Earth is the center of Hell, and it is cold there. His reasoning is that the farther you are from God, the less warmth there is. Dante actually understood that you'd have to turn over at the center of the Earth, because down would be the other way, so when his character (also named Dante) reaches the very center of the Earth, which is actually where Satan is, he describes turning around and the sensation of gravity being reversed there.

Actually, were the core of Earth hollow, there would be no gravity at the very center and one would float freely as if in outer space.

I am not going to reply to the original subject of this thread. It seems foolish.

I'm just assuming most of the posters are very young (compared to me) so I'm not busting their chops too hard.

Once again I compare us as children to "God" as adult.

Child has a rotting tooth that needs to be removed... The child is in no pain yet, but the Adult(dentist) knows better..


So he straps the kid in a chair and sticks needles in the child and rips that tooth out of his head..Now..

Why should this child ever want to go back to the Dentist.. such an Evil Being?



oh please... .... Think of it as one of those 3-D Pictures in the Mall.... No one can Make you see the Image..
"God, When do I get to see the Sailboat?!?"



Bible, Bible, Bible.... Forces of Creation were around much longer than when this was written or compiled..... THere is more to "God" (or the Force known as God) than this publication.. Once again.. it is a creation of Man.

I've only managed to read 30 of the 233 threads (if I remember correctly) and all I've seen thus far is the turning of gears but no real "locomotion" (sp?) I understand the controversy in a thread like this and I completely respect everyones belief's. I would like to point out a few thing if I may. Life, love are what we consider to be good, why? The feelings we get? Or the things we share? I would tend to look at how we feel toward loved ones and life when we are angry. At that moment all seems unbarible and though you want to express your anger in ways in which you know are hostile or better yet dangerous you hold back. Humanity allows us to see each other as individuals and not just individuals but individuals who can play an intregal role in a community. Life teaches us many things and yet we are so bold as to blow it off as a mere coinsidence of circumstance. The fact that we talk of belief's should show us a deeper connection with ourselves and our belief's are that reflection (without it being taken to a serious degree but like anything we do, a peice of us is implimented into it.^^) When someone says they are something (in refrence to a belief as pertaing to it's definition) it takes faith. Basically you have faith when you can give yourself a title (my belief). I think everyone has good views on this subject only because there is no right or wrong answer there is only the feelings you get (and only you feel) that make this seem controversial. You cannot prove or disprove anything without experiencing it first and many people experince the same things differently. The last thing I'de like to add is if deeath does not bring consiquence or reward how do we get closure in our last minutes? I think only old age can solve that question and I understand that it might be frustrating to try and comprehend God and Budda and many other types of head figures in religion but the key is to relize and understand your main feeling about anything that you come across and to be able to decide how to handle this feeling because for each circumstance bores a new feeling (although it might be relitive or close to a feeling you know i.e. anger, happiness these are just basic feelings of something more complexe than words can conjure up). I'm sorry if it seems like I'm preaching to the chore or just rambling but I like to think that a mist the chaos we can find order and peace within our own hearts. thank you ^^