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No. I'm comparing these scientists to the scientists involved in the IPCC consensus Joph. I'll ask again. What percentage of those scientists actually work in a relevant field? Do you know the answer?
94%. 89% have PhDs.
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gbaji wrote:
No. I'm comparing these scientists to the scientists involved in the IPCC consensus Joph. I'll ask again. What percentage of those scientists actually work in a relevant field?
You may as well be badgering me to answer how many Koreans are in shopping malls right this moment. It'd be just as relevant.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I don't understand why you're asking me this unless you're completely incapable of comprehending what I've said multiple times about consensus and how it applies to my arguments.
Really? You don't? Because if the numbers are even vaguely similar, then the two positions can be equivocated. That's all this is about, making both sides appear equal *somehow* so you can dismiss the subject as "no one knows"
Edited, May 21st 2008 10:16pm by Smasharoo
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Well, I was being polite and accusing him of unintentional ignorance rather than flat-out deception.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Well, I was being polite and accusing him of unintentional ignorance rather than flat-out deception.
I think there's an open question of whether or not he genuinely believes it to be the case that, to use a different example, if Einstein states Relativity works one way and Bob Wilson who has a PhD in Physics argues that it doesn't but can't show why, then it's undecided.
It's possible. No one's ever lost a wager overestimating Gbaji's capacity for being a sucker.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
No. I'm comparing these scientists to the scientists involved in the IPCC consensus Joph. I'll ask again. What percentage of those scientists actually work in a relevant field? Do you know the answer?
94%. 89% have PhDs.
BS and you know it. Try again...
Oh. And I was tooling around looking at the "peer-review" of the IPCC reports. Funny stuff. I particularly love this exchange:
Reviewer: This Table is no more than guesswork, so it gives a spurious impression of accuracy. It is better to use qualitative terms such as "possible", "might'" "could" etc
Response: We disagree. The table and usage is founded in efforts to put quantitative ranges on uncertainty.
Lol! Gotta love politically oriented science...
Edited, May 21st 2008 7:47pm by gbaji
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
And while I'm tossing stuff out there, here's another interesting article addressing the nature of the scientists on the IPCC, how they got there, and the massive flaws with the "peer review" process that Joph seems to think is so solid.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
I'm bored. Here's the other sixteen PhD's:
Robert J. Kabel - Lawyer and lobbyist. Ironically, having once written a paper on Brazilian ethanol investment, he's probably the most qualified thus far.
Peter La Celle - Dermatologist, University of Rochester
Robert P. Ma - Dept. of Psychology chair, University of Texas
Misac Nabighian - Geophysicist with the University of Colorado. Holy hell, I think we can count this guy.
Robert Quincy Oaks Jr - Geologist with Yale. Co-wrote a paper on Pleistocene sea levels in Virginia.
J. Pace - Hard to tell with no first name. I believe he's with a department of computer science.
Forrest W. Quackenbush - Biochemist who wrote about obese rats. Deceased.
Bernard Raab - Unknown.
Alfredo H UA S Ing - 'The hell? I think they mean "Alfredo Hua-Sing" who is a structural engineer
Widen Tabakoff - Aerospace engineer
Herbert M S Uberall - Did work in acoustical waveforms
James P. Vacik - I was interested to see he was a "Director of Environmental Control". Then I saw it was for a college of medicine.
William R. Wachtler - Patent for a device to hold chemicals during liquid sorting
Ning Xi - Mathmatics and Computer Science professor with Michigan State
Dmeter Yablonsky - Mathmatics professor for Pace University
Robert Zackroff - Microbiologist
So far my unbiased (although not random since I used the alphabet) sampling gives us 7% rate of finding scientists involved in a related field. I could even go 14% if I wanted to be really generous and included the math guys.
Is the IPCC ranking above 14%? Just curious.
Robert J. Kabel - Lawyer and lobbyist. Ironically, having once written a paper on Brazilian ethanol investment, he's probably the most qualified thus far.
Peter La Celle - Dermatologist, University of Rochester
Robert P. Ma - Dept. of Psychology chair, University of Texas
Misac Nabighian - Geophysicist with the University of Colorado. Holy hell, I think we can count this guy.
Robert Quincy Oaks Jr - Geologist with Yale. Co-wrote a paper on Pleistocene sea levels in Virginia.
J. Pace - Hard to tell with no first name. I believe he's with a department of computer science.
Forrest W. Quackenbush - Biochemist who wrote about obese rats. Deceased.
Bernard Raab - Unknown.
Alfredo H UA S Ing - 'The hell? I think they mean "Alfredo Hua-Sing" who is a structural engineer
Widen Tabakoff - Aerospace engineer
Herbert M S Uberall - Did work in acoustical waveforms
James P. Vacik - I was interested to see he was a "Director of Environmental Control". Then I saw it was for a college of medicine.
William R. Wachtler - Patent for a device to hold chemicals during liquid sorting
Ning Xi - Mathmatics and Computer Science professor with Michigan State
Dmeter Yablonsky - Mathmatics professor for Pace University
Robert Zackroff - Microbiologist
So far my unbiased (although not random since I used the alphabet) sampling gives us 7% rate of finding scientists involved in a related field. I could even go 14% if I wanted to be really generous and included the math guys.
Is the IPCC ranking above 14%? Just curious.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
And while I'm tossing stuff out there, here's another interesting article addressing the nature of the scientists on the IPCC, how they got there, and the massive flaws with the "peer review" process that Joph seems to think is so solid.
As for peer-review, the article only criticizes it in regards to the IPCC:
The article wrote:
Even the peer-review process -- ordinarily designed to ensure rigorous science -- has mutated to meet IPCC needs. In professional science, the names of peer reviewers are kept confidential to encourage independent criticism, free of recrimination, while the deliberations of the authors being critiqued are made public.
Edited, May 21st 2008 9:57pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
And while I'm tossing stuff out there, here's another interesting article addressing the nature of the scientists on the IPCC, how they got there, and the massive flaws with the "peer review" process that Joph seems to think is so solid.
The National Post? Are you serious? When do we get scans of the John Birch Society Newsletter?
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
BS and you know it.
Nope, that's the number.
Did you have some evidence this is incorrect?
Haha. Just kidding. "Evidence" from you! Haha, I kill me.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
I think the funniest part of this whole debate isn't "Look these people with PhD's disagree, so it's wrong!" or "The IPCC made one mistake, so everything's wrong!".
No, it's the idea that the wealthiest companies in the world have the science on their side, and that even with the billions they spend trying to tell the world, that the wrong imaginary doom sayers were just too damn effective in perpetrating a sham on the political apparatus of nearly every nation on Earth, the Nobel Prize Committee, and the public for the truth to get out.
When you die, Gbaji, will you will me the portion of your brain that makes such self delusion possible? There's not enough LSD in all the world.
No, it's the idea that the wealthiest companies in the world have the science on their side, and that even with the billions they spend trying to tell the world, that the wrong imaginary doom sayers were just too damn effective in perpetrating a sham on the political apparatus of nearly every nation on Earth, the Nobel Prize Committee, and the public for the truth to get out.
When you die, Gbaji, will you will me the portion of your brain that makes such self delusion possible? There's not enough LSD in all the world.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
BS and you know it.
Nope, that's the number.
Did you have some evidence this is incorrect?
Haha. Just kidding. "Evidence" from you! Haha, I kill me.
You're both equally poor at providing evidence. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen you reference a single outside source. I could be wrong, but the point is that it's rare enough not to exist in recent memory.
And before you go there, posting a link to a google search is not a ******* reference.
You're both equally poor at providing evidence. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen you reference a single outside source. I could be wrong, but the point is that it's rare enough not to exist in recent memory.
First page of this thread, genius.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
I think it's silly how Smash never edit's his original posts to add something new. Smash, you have had 3 Double posts, and one triple post. Sad.
You also are telling Gbaji that he never supports his case with evidence. Can I see your evidence please?
edit: something that smash doesn't do.
I don't give a rats *** about your fact checker thing on the front page. I am talking about the evidence of your doings on page 3.
Edited, May 21st 2008 10:14pm by Azazel
You also are telling Gbaji that he never supports his case with evidence. Can I see your evidence please?
edit: something that smash doesn't do.
I don't give a rats *** about your fact checker thing on the front page. I am talking about the evidence of your doings on page 3.
Edited, May 21st 2008 10:14pm by Azazel
Smasharoo wrote:
You're both equally poor at providing evidence. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen you reference a single outside source. I could be wrong, but the point is that it's rare enough not to exist in recent memory.
First page of this thread, genius.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
It's hard to get tired of something that happens so rarely. But touché on the sourcewatch thing.
Specifically, what's your source on the percent you gave earlier on this page? I'm genuinely interested in verifying that stat.
Edited, May 21st 2008 10:15pm by BrownDuck
And before you go there, posting a link to a google search is not a @#%^ing reference.
It is to people capable of clicking on a hyperlink. You're right, though, when I'm completely right beyond any reasonable debate, I rarely link to outside sources to "prove" it. For instance if I commented that "me want go car fast" was poor grammar, I wouldn't link to a primer.
The fact that you're not as well educated or as bright as I am isn't my fault, but consider it that way. You wouldn't link to something that was obviously, unfalisfiably true, and neither do I.
Get smarter if you don't like it, I guess.
Sorry :(
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
You also are telling Gbaji that he never supports his case with evidence. Can I see your evidence please?
edit: something that smash doesn't do.
False.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
You also are telling Gbaji that he never supports his case with evidence. Can I see your evidence please?
edit: something that smash doesn't do.
Incorrect.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
And before you go there, posting a link to a google search is not a @#%^ing reference.
It is to people capable of clicking on a hyperlink. You're right, though, when I'm completely right beyond any reasonable debate, I rarely link to outside sources to "prove" it. For instance if I commented that "me want go car fast" was poor grammar, I wouldn't link to a primer.
The fact that you're not as well educated or as bright as I am isn't my fault, but consider it that way. You wouldn't link to something that was obviously, unfalisfiably true, and neither do I.
Get smarter if you don't like it, I guess.
Sorry :(
The fact that you cannot have a reasonable argument without resorting to insulting people is indicative of your inability to argue at a mature adult level. I don't have to insult your intelligence to point out your shortcomings here. They're painfully obvious.
You also are telling Gbaji that he never supports his case with evidence. Can I see your evidence please?
edit: something that smash doesn't do.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
One thing that that IPCC report does have going for it is that it is backed by the previously mentioned wealth of studies which support ACC. Read any of the technical sections and see page after page of references.
If there is argument among the scientific community on these points, I welcome links to dissenting studies.
If there is argument among the scientific community on these points, I welcome links to dissenting studies.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Smasharoo wrote:
The fact that you're not as well educated or as bright as I am isn't my fault, but consider it that way.
"I'm right, you're stupid, I don't need to prove it." Got it.
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
Smasharoo wrote:
You also are telling Gbaji that he never supports his case with evidence. Can I see your evidence please?
edit: something that smash doesn't do.
False.
Do you also have a thing with bolding quotes and not quoting them? Or do you just not know how?
Smasharoo wrote:
You also are telling Gbaji that he never supports his case with evidence. Can I see your evidence please?
edit: something that smash doesn't do.
Incorrect.
edit: something that smash doesn't do.
Incorrect.
Wasn't this basically just posted with a word changed?
Azazel, Immortal Lion wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
You also are telling Gbaji that he never supports his case with evidence. Can I see your evidence please?
edit: something that smash doesn't do.
False.
Do you also have a thing with bolding quotes and not quoting them? Or do you just not know how?
Smasharoo wrote:
You also are telling Gbaji that he never supports his case with evidence. Can I see your evidence please?
edit: something that smash doesn't do.
Incorrect.
edit: something that smash doesn't do.
Incorrect.
Wasn't this basically just posted with a word changed?
Smash is just illustrating that the overwhelming percentage of his post count is entirely fluff. I suppose he hopes to one day surpass Jophiel, but he's merely a rabid poodle in wolf's clothing, IMO.
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