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#27 Dec 15 2010 at 11:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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I want to kill Ovni, but I didn't think about BSTing it. Was planning to low-man manaburn it. Did you use any particular strategy on BST, or just keep throwing pets at it and wearing it down? I'd certainly rather go at it with BST than BLM given the choice.
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#28 Dec 15 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, what gear/pets/atma did you use for Ovni?
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#29 Dec 15 2010 at 7:47 PM Rating: Good
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To be honest I would not recommend soloing Ovni; it's pretty expensive and takes a while.

I used 3 Dipperyulys in total and 2 stacks of pet food zetas. With a set, I healed my pet for around 1650.

The atmas I used were Razed Ruins, Vicissitude and Mounted Champion.

For gear I had a evasion axes with -DT head piece from the moogle addon and AF3+2 leg piece.

I just threw my pet in and kept spiral spinning it and just stayed back. The main worry is Florescence and the an AOE move like Primal Drill of the Oscillation which can deal 2k damage if it hits. Call Beast was always up and ready and I never had a problem when my pet died. For the reward set though, merits and Khimaria or Bison head piece is pretty much needed for the 10 or 15 lowered recast on reward. The fight also took around 30 minutes since it drags on at the end when its defense gets really high, but with Razed Ruins, the crits really make a big difference.
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#30 Dec 15 2010 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Level 90 or 85?
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#31 Dec 15 2010 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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LV90 for Ovni
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#32 Dec 15 2010 at 11:58 PM Rating: Good
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I'll change my list a little.

Ferine Seal: Feet
Hrosshvalur (NM) Abyssea - Vunkerl - Use Fatso Fargann. Water damage is reducedd by 75% might be able to solo. not sure yet.
Seps (NM) Abyssea - Vunkerl - easy duo, pet only, use DipperYuly. Might be able to solo.
Dvalinn (NM) Abyssea - Vunkerl - Dipper might be able to solo. Pet only duo works fine.

Ferine Seal: Head

Kharon (NM) Abyssea - Attohwa - easy bst duo, solo probably works
Mielikki (NM) Abyssea - Attohwa - Soloable
Warbler (NM) Abyssea - Attohwa - NASTY FIGHT!!! NOT a solo. pain in the **** even w/ 6x pet jobs


Ferine Seal: Legs

Flame Skimmer (NM) Abyssea - Misareaux - duo no problem. DipperYuly FTW. solo likely.
Sirrush (NM) Abyssea - Misareaux - BST can solo
Tuskertrap (NM) Abyssea - Misareaux - NOT a bst fight imo. drain samba effect gets nasty at low hp
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#33 Dec 18 2010 at 2:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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@Xilk: Can those NMs be solo without any atma or do they need some atmas? I just came back from a long break and can only play solo. So I'm wondering if there is anything a solo Bst could do with Abyssea.
#34 Dec 19 2010 at 1:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Mielikki (NM) Abyssea - Attohwa - Soloable


Strategy/requirements please!
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#35 Dec 19 2010 at 3:45 PM Rating: Good
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Mielikki (NM) Abyssea - Attohwa - Soloable


Strategy/requirements please!


I've not solo'd it myself, though I"ll probably go do so now. LS mate who did was using vicissitude and mounted champion. So thats alot of VIT and def and a bit of magic def and a whole nice heaping of regen. 35/tick means alot. REally w/ those 2 atma dipper can tank like nazuna even w/out the evasion.

Otherwise feed zetas. Yuly is going to dodge a ton, but other pets will work on Mielikki. Eta's will make a good difference as well.

My list up there at 90 is assuming 2x atma. Atma and everything abyssea is getting easier and easier.

If you've been out on BST w/ something like vicissitude or Mounted champion w/ Razed Ruins, w/ those 2 you can Chain kill IT's On bST in Abyssea solo. IF you are worried about getting the atma all you need is this:

GEt the pop set for the NM, shout for a group if you have nothing else. (getting a pop set of KI can be done solo) Many players will leap for a chance at these atmas. Especially if they dont' already have them. Many other players will be happy to help get them. Also keep in mind the top players will have abyssite of Discernment already, or very soon (I'll have mine this week). This will make getting any atma you want much easier.

I'm not sure if you NEED abyssite to do all the solo's everything that is soloable is much more easily managed in a duo.

W/ Mielikki a form of stun for the -aga spells makes a big difference in kill time. either /dnc, /drk, or have sudden lunge ready. if you don't have stun you'll be running out of range alot, and you'll want an erase ofcourse. (or you'll do pet only) All you really need for a Solo is for your pet to live until CB is up. It can get expensive, but its soloable. W/ a good reward set and eta biscuits... thats quite doable. Time becomes the only factor.

If you can get one person w/ atma of discernment and 3x lunars (3x lunars is ridiculous awesome btw. Your pet IS a notorious monster)
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#36 Dec 19 2010 at 8:37 PM Rating: Good
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Sirrush (NM) Abyssea - Misareaux - BST can solo


I'm sorry to say I haven't been keeping up with getting the latest set of AF, so thanks for the tip off on this NM. Apparently drops seals for all 3 of my jobs.
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#37 Dec 19 2010 at 11:42 PM Rating: Good
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Sirrush (NM) Abyssea - Misareaux - BST can solo


I'm sorry to say I haven't been keeping up with getting the latest set of AF, so thanks for the tip off on this NM. Apparently drops seals for all 3 of my jobs.


You are very welcome.
You will likely have to run out of hate range several times to heal up from the AoE damage while pet tanks it.


For many of the fights Yuly as an EVA tank is completely awesome. EVA axes make it even better of course.
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#38 Dec 20 2010 at 3:06 AM Rating: Good
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I also did Sirrush yesterday. Yuly with RR, VV and mounted champion. Gear was pet -32% PDT and -15% MDT. Only needed 2-3 zeta food per fight. Went /DNC and stacked Box Step.
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#39 Dec 20 2010 at 5:30 AM Rating: Good
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I also did Sirrush yesterday. Yuly with RR, VV and mounted champion. Gear was pet -32% PDT and -15% MDT. Only needed 2-3 zeta food per fight. Went /DNC and stacked Box Step.


I"m actually curious how VV will compare to something like Stout Arm for pets.( I have pop set for Eve, but I don't actually have VV yet)

The regain is of course awesome, but from my testing last week, Strength just didn't seam that important for pets. The Attack+ seemed more beneficial (compare damage output on same pet, baying moon vs stout arm, vs VV). then again I was comparing damage on some pet TP moves and they were likely not modified by strength. (my pet has SA, other bst had RR +mounted champion, same pet, my hits were doing more damage, his was doing more overall from crit rate. I switched from SA to baying moon and my damage remained the same, this also convinced me to swap my Wardecors pet crit/DA+ for pet attack+).

Atma give us a previously non-existent opportunity to actually test what/if anything modifies our pets dd output and tp moves.


Edited, Dec 20th 2010 6:33am by Xilk
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#40 Dec 20 2010 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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I haven't realy tested different atma combos on pets yet. One setup I would like to try is RR + Dark Depths + Alpha and Omega. That should give (supposed capped) crit hit rate of 50% with 10% tripple attack and +50 attack. But not sure if Dark Depths is worth it since the other 2 stats are less attractive. VV, Stout Arm or Stronghold might be better.

If more eva is needed then Siren Shadow is realy nice with both eva and attack.
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#41 Dec 20 2010 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
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another friend sent me a tip on soloing Mielikki.
Stand on opposite side of NM than pet to avoid alot of AoE.


I have the devourer one, but no alpha and omega.

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#42 Dec 20 2010 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Just soloed Hrosshvalur, probably not the best NM to fight for seals since it takes a while, but you can still solo it effectively. I used Fatso for the water reduction, but I would have used Funguar since Aquan > Amorph. I used Ebon Hoof, Mounted Champion and Vicissitude and went through a stack and a half of pet food zetas and only used 1 pet. I brought the NM into the tunnel and just had my pet attack it. Weird thing was it sometimes targeted me so that's something to watch out for.
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Just soloed Hrosshvalur, probably not the best NM to fight for seals since it takes a while, but you can still solo it effectively. I used Fatso for the water reduction, but I would have used Funguar since Aquan > Amorph. I used Ebon Hoof, Mounted Champion and Vicissitude and went through a stack and a half of pet food zetas and only used 1 pet. I brought the NM into the tunnel and just had my pet attack it. Weird thing was it sometimes targeted me so that's something to watch out for.



Yeah, Hrossh seems to be a ranger, and has either fast enmity decay and/or very wide detection range. always zips around alot (often 1-shotting the

I would still use Fargann rather than Louise. Hrossh spams water attacks. Louise's water reduction is only 50%, Fargann is 75%. The intimidation rate is no fun, but better than the greater pet food use.
I think I would replace one of those defensive Atma for an Offensive one. I don't know how close fargann was to death w/ all the regen/hp you have on it, I suspect there were not too many close calls keeping him alive. If you use something like RR you will kill faster and use less food.

I'm sure I'd rather duo this than solo. Its so much cheaper.

Did you melee along with pet at all? It doesn't sound like it. I might try it, since I got aqua satchet...
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Did Armillaria last night. Same setup as my Sirrush fight. Was a very easy fight. Used 1-2 zeta food per fight and meleed along the entire fight. Poped and farmed pop items for some 60mins. Ended up with 5 WAR, 5 DNC, 3 DRG and 2 THF seals.
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I would still use Fargann rather than Louise. Hrossh spams water attacks. Louise's water reduction is only 50%, Fargann is 75%. The intimidation rate is no fun, but better than the greater pet food use.
I think I would replace one of those defensive Atma for an Offensive one. I don't know how close fargann was to death w/ all the regen/hp you have on it, I suspect there were not too many close calls keeping him alive. If you use something like RR you will kill faster and use less food.


I don't think Fargann takes 75% less damage because the second time I used the sheep pet and it took around 1000 damage from waterja and Fargann took around 500 damage. Also, using an offensive atma will definitely speed it up, just using regen atmas since it was the first time I fought it. You could fight alongside your pet if you just run away from waterja which supposedly is casted every 30 seconds.
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**** Sirrush don't bother with that c sucker unless you have a nice amount of -pdt and evasion axes



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I would still use Fargann rather than Louise. Hrossh spams water attacks. Louise's water reduction is only 50%, Fargann is 75%. The intimidation rate is no fun, but better than the greater pet food use.
I think I would replace one of those defensive Atma for an Offensive one. I don't know how close fargann was to death w/ all the regen/hp you have on it, I suspect there were not too many close calls keeping him alive. If you use something like RR you will kill faster and use less food.


I don't think Fargann takes 75% less damage because the second time I used the sheep pet and it took around 1000 damage from waterja and Fargann took around 500 damage. Also, using an offensive atma will definitely speed it up, just using regen atmas since it was the first time I fought it. You could fight alongside your pet if you just run away from waterja which supposedly is casted every 30 seconds.



I fought Iku-Turso w/ 3x bst. One switching between Sieghard and Shasra, myself on Fargann, 3rd on Louise. It was easily apparent when Waterja or Maelstrom would hit for ~1500 on Shasra, 750 on Louise and 350 on Fargan. (those exact numbers did come out once) This was consistent and easy to see. Fargann was resisting ~75% every time (and the mob spams those spells) while louise was resisting 50%.
Then again, I was using vicissitude which has a minor magic def bonus. However so was at least one other bst (shasra/seighard), if not both. Also not each cast is the same power. There is an element of randomness. Nazuna could have resisted partially, and the next cast could have been higher.

BTW, Kharon is a fun fight for bst/sch. I might use 1 pet food zeta on Yuly during the fight.
Atma: Vicissitude, Razed Ruin, Gnarled Horn. (/sch needed for dispel of dread spikes, /rdm might work if you can dispel it....)


For General BST NM soloing, I would usually recommend Razed Ruin, Vicissitude or Mounted Champion, and Stronghold or gnarled horn or Siren Shadow depending on pet and NM target.
First priority will be something w/ a major regen/def or vit on it. 2nd priority is Razed Ruin for your DD (RR is HUGE and will make a bigger difference than more def/regen if only 2 atma). 3rd will be more variable on situations, but you can probably get one that will benefit in at least 2 ways. Razed ruin crit hits are wonderful, the next thing for dd is atack+. STR just doesn't do much for normal attacks. You can quickly see a marked increase from attack+ however.

stronghold will give you more attack and def and REGEN, gnarled horn will give you agi (and consequently eva) and increased crit rate (counter-rate for merle also!) and Siren Shadow.

Everyone's atma availability will be a bit different as well. However Atma makes such a difference in abyssea, I think its well worth getting 3x lunar abyssite and abyssite of discernment, then atma, then armors and weapons. It makes doing it so much easier/quicker in this order, imo.




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Edited, Dec 22nd 2010 1:43am by Xilk
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Pull back when it readies "Boiling Blood" and let if fire off "Crippling Slam", they come one after the other. It's important to keep shadows up, you seem to get paralyzed at close range by Crippling Slam, but not if you move back from the NM. Yuly (no pet evasion axes) does extremely well in this fight despite intimidation working against him.
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Under the guise of trying to get everybody up to speed on Shinryu progress- I suggested our LS go catch up on some of the Caturae people are missing- I managed to get them to try and proc Red !! on Kutharei and got Atma of Mounted Champion. ****, this thing really does make a difference. I highly approve.
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Under the guise of trying to get everybody up to speed on Shinryu progress- I suggested our LS go catch up on some of the Caturae people are missing- I managed to get them to try and proc Red !! on Kutharei and got Atma of Mounted Champion. ****, this thing really does make a difference. I highly approve.


Yeah, pet vit and that much regen is pretty sweet. I'm jealous of the other bst w/ it. I'll get mine sooner or later.
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Xilk wrote:

BTW, Kharon is a fun fight for bst/sch. I might use 1 pet food zeta on Yuly during the fight.
Atma: Vicissitude, Razed Ruin, Gnarled Horn. (/sch needed for dispel of dread spikes, /rdm might work if you can dispel it....)


Solo? Do you fight with Yuly or stand back out of sleepga range? I remember fighting this guy really soon after the release of Scars with a big group of people and wiping. Of course, nobody had any decent atmas or anything like that, but left a bad memory and I never tried him again.
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