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#1 Jan 05 2004 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Anyone had experience with calling pets from jugs yet? Lilyanne?

I am wondering if they are worth much in battle. Are they strong? Look cool? What does the Jug of Carrot Broth summon?

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#2 Jan 06 2004 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Glad you asked. ;) I hit 28 last night and summoned my first Tiger Familiar, and let me say wow. ;p

I would say that they can contribute quite well in battle only if they are still similar lvl to you. We were fighting the Yhoator Mandragoras in the 2nd Kazham jungle which as everyone knows take bloody ages to fight and just drain everyone of mp and eventually patience. ;) Anyway, the jug for Tiger Familiar is lvl 28 too, so he's basically my lvl, and oddly enough fights pretty well against these. He was doing good dmg, like a warrior of comparable level and even has double-attack sometimes or so it would seem. I would speculate that using the lvl 23 HareFamiliar would have been worse off since he is much lower lvl. His dmg output would be smaller. And by 28 you get "Sic" so I was able to let my Tiger unleash some nice specials.

Be warned.. we had a White Lizard near us which don't aggro but are really **** hard, and I told my Tiger to Sic, and he did an area of effect special, aggroing the lizard. Miraculously, he killed the tiger and left us alone. (he was doing 100 dmg hits on the tiger). :)

Anyway, as I lvl up, I guess the Tiger will be less useful as I get higher because he won't be high enough to do well against the stuff I'll be fighting. But we get new familiars anyway as we get higher. Or.... are they summoned at a comparable lvl to me. Hmm, I'm not sure on that. Maybe the 28 thing is just a restiction on how soon I can use the tiger, and doens't necessarily mean he's lvl 28. Wonder if anyone knows.

Carrot broth is for Hare Familiar, it's like having a little Rarab fighting for you. ;) And yes while that's not so exciting, having a Tiger that's as tall as me and watching it use its specials is very cool indeed. Gives a whole new meaning to the "party trick". :P It also doesn't kill their xp at all since it's your lvl or lower. You just get the 30% cut as always. But the Tiger sped up the fights against those onions big time, allowing for chains which we weren't able to do before. :) It's like having a 7th fighter in the party.

Hope that helps. :) I bought 12 jugs of meat broth (tiger) for 2,500 gil. But they usually go for 3,000. I was lucky.
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#3 Jan 06 2004 at 10:24 AM Rating: Decent
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When I say he acts like a party member, he really does. The mandragoras have that sleep attack and the -MND special too. Both of those affected my tiger like us lot. Yet of course, we can't do cure or protect on him as you know. Pretty odd stuff. I wasn't expecting it to be put to sleep, but it did. O_o
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#4 Jan 20 2004 at 4:37 AM Rating: Default
Where Do you get the 30% number from?
I kills stuff in a PT for 100 xp use rabit and get 99 xp how is that 30%??????? I only see big xp cuts if say i charm a tuff.
The rabit i got at 23 seemed only to give 1% xp cut.
Another thing i tested the Pet in a party there was no xp cut to them just me.. I here people say toss around this 30% number i would realy like to know where they get it from.
With even cons it seem to be only 1% if that if it is used as a pet. If i kill a easy with e even con there is a big hit.. But on harder stuff i can barly even tell
#5 Jan 20 2004 at 10:09 AM Rating: Default
The 30% cut is common knowledge. Other varities of cuts depend on the pet con and the mob con. It's not hard.
#6 Jan 20 2004 at 12:02 PM Rating: Default
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Ok the post on a 30% xp cut isn't as static as it may seem. Like most stuff I think BST have modded sence the guide and alot of the original post. You can take the whole group xp lose for instance. It's been tested and the group suffers no lose just us.

Another thing I have noticed no matter the what lvl the pet is mine always seem to be my current lvl. My rabits for instance I still use him for his blind attack when I fight mobs that hit more than once, and he generaly hits for equal or more no matter what lvl I am.

Second is XP, lets use khazam as an example. If I use a tiger familar there and we are adveraging 150 a pop, with my tiger I get 140-143 xp while groups gets max(tested and confirmed). Know if I charm a mob there 150 drops to about 100 sometimes less.

Conclusion is it's a hit or miss, it seems as if it's based on the lvl of the mob your fighting, If it's IT then you suffer less of a loss, but lets say we are dealing with a VT and the groups gets 140 chain I might range 100, even with a called mob. So just watch the lvl of the mob your fighting alot of time a pet doesn't benefit a group or you, if your soloing then it doesn't matter.
#7 Jan 21 2004 at 10:53 AM Rating: Default
Hmm, does this mean that if im in a party killing IT's, then I can summon from a jug, and take a very very very little xp cut?
#8 Jan 21 2004 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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fyi their is another post dicussing jugs in the bstmaster job forum
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