STR vs. RAtk vs. AGI for the end-game RNG: Some answersFollow

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And lose one of the better TP gain earring now that we can melee while shooting again?

only bad arguments can be brought up against suppa. you can bring up the lessened TP but that's not really important. there is still a positive net TP gain from wearing it. and when you think about it from a ranger's viewpoint, meleeing is nothing but extra TP. you might get in 2 or 3 rounds before you hit 100+%. is missing out on 1 TP every 3 attack rounds that important?

What about Barbarossa's Zerehs for the leg slot? I didn't see anyone mention them in any of the postings. Them seem pretty difficult to get so if your able to obtain them they might be the most useful leg slot item if your rng acc is okay.

Im very surprised at how little difference there is between the Hume RSE2 boots and regular ol' War Boots. Who the hell wants to pay an extra 2.94 mil for an extra 5-10 damage on a WS, I sure as sh*t dont. The greatest thing about this is that it shows people how little most +1 stuff gives. War Boots, 60k. War Boots +1, 1.8mil. You basically pay 1.74 mil for an extra one Rng attack, which is just retarded IMO.

I know, I know, armor isnt really spending money, more like "renting" since you can always sell back, but still I rather have the gil on hand rather than spending 50mil so my Sidewinder can do another 40-50 damage or w/e. Imo its better wasted crafting or something that will give you more noticeable results, or just instead of keeping one super pimped out job, have 2-3 nicely equipped ones.

Hume females who only have to pay 500k or so ;p... or people who already had them for another job and were wondering if they were worth using on RNG.

Good job man. A lot of hard work has gone into this, and I think this'll be a keeper. We can finally have some of the answers about which piece of gear is best for which slot, STR wise. A r.acc sheet or even a r.acc vs STR sheet would be really cool, but I realise that's a shed load of work over this, and I'd have a crack at it myself, but work commitments don't really give me time to do it justice. Perhaps someone with a little more time might be kind enough to have a go, or perhaps a few people can work on it together and pool their data.

Either way, grats for the work, and thank you for making the world of rangers that little bit clearer....

Sure
Your point is valid.
But then I can argue what's the average time the mob live + the std. deviation etc and see the expected value you'll get another hit by wearing suppa.

What are you comparing here?
weapon damage and ammo damage is about 70-85% of your total base damage for normal shot and about 50~70% for your WS

I guess that depends on how high your pDIF value is, and how big the monster def is
the higher the monster def, the less impact the ratk from ebow for amplifying the damage.
the higher your pDIF is, the more useful your base damage become.

It's no direct answer to the question, but I guess it can answer which better for which situation

shigeto is better for per-shot and weaponskill damage, but ebow has a noticably lower delay, which is the main reason why people use it over anything else

Name: Reality 
75RNG 75WAR 75BRD 
63MNK 61THF 60BST 
52DRK 37SAM 37NIN 
37WHM 
+++++ +++++ +++++

I have a few questions about taru rse 2 and how they compare with the other selections:



how would 6 STR, -3 agi compare to these?


how does 4 str compare?

Sorry but your not even close.

Sad but True. Remember in this game good equip stack up, is not like 1 item will make u good or bad(not even a KC with bad armor)

If acid bolts stick xbow >

no aqua rings plz and you dont really need promise badge with KO and SB.

Welcome to FFXI, looks like you're new here.

Let's break this down.

Franny is good. Woodville's is, indeed, junk. Kriegsbeil (or Trailer's) are better, straight up.

Shikaree is level-cap gear. AF body is obsoleted by Pln. body (also free).

AF head/O-hat/NQ Wyvern are all acceptable. Relic or AF+1 would be a better goal, but there's nothing wrong with your choices.

Deadeye gloves are good... at LV60. W.hands and S.kote blow them away, and are not exceptionally difficult to get. Seiryu has never been particularly contested.

War Boots are OK, though if you plan on using O-bow, you should probably have Suzy boots instead.

RNG necklace is fine, RSE belt, and RK+2 are both fine. (Precise Belt is also a nice choice.) Amemet+1 is the best cape we can wear.

The point is: you aren't really "almost there," unless you ignore the vast majority of RNG endgame gear. Looking at what I would consider a reasonably "complete" endgame setup:

Kriegs/Franny
E-bow/O-bow/Hellfire+1/Culverin
Optihat(WB+1)/relic/AF+1/wyvern
Faith/Hope/Breeze
Triumph/Cassie/Hollow/Brutal
Osode
S.kote/w.hands
Rajas/Aqua/Merman's/Behemoth/Jalzahn's
Amemet+1
Scout's Belt/RKB+2(/Mithra RSE)
Dusk Trousers/Scout's Braccae/AF+1
Scout's Socks/Suzy boots

Of the 15 slots I have listed, you are "finished" in 6 of them (being generous, since a few of those options are either WS-only or holy-bolt-only).

Edited, Oct 19th 2007 10:09am by redvenomweb

Finally some more effective comments.

-I bought the Woods because I am also working on war and I am planning to go Maneater/Woodsville and the +Str from Woods is nice. I saw a huge jump in my Dmg in Dynamis with my current setup. Kriegsbiel is in the works.
-I have O-bow, E-bow, and Hellfire+1. No canon for me. no real need based on the mobs I fight and the money I have.
-I am in Dynamis. As we all know Rng drops suck. I have the Scouts Barret and macro it with my holy bolts. O-hat is way better for Racc than Scouts and Ratt from AF is better so I only use Scouts when a Holy Bolt is equiped and even then it doesn't do much in Double Dark Weather. Good against invincible though. I would love to get Socks but then again so would most Rangers. I would love to get the pants too... I am 4/5 war and 3/5 on every other DD job but only 1/5(6) on Ranger. How sad.
-I am still working on both Sky and Sea access. No one wants to help the ranger get through Missions. I didn't start playing until Aug 2005 so I am way behind the curve. Oh well.

The reality is that I am financially challenged and will NOT buy gil like a lot of players will. Now I make more than a lot of people playing FFXI make and could easily buy gil and have every piece of non-rare/ex pimpness including a Kracken Club and my bank account wouldn't hardly budge... but that isn't what the game is for so no thanks.

As I also stated, I am American living/playing in Japan. I can't get in with the US LS's since I can't play while I am at work. The Japanese LS's all start too late. I went to bed last night at 2am after Dynamis and had to be up for work at 5:20. You do the math. Sorry, the game is not that important to me.

I am more than willing to help who ever needs it but have an impossible time trying to find people willing to help me. Life sucks. Man I should just play Drk I sound so EMO right now.

Anyway, thanks for the comments.

Review:
Kriegsbiel coming.
Wyvern Coming.
NO SKY/SEA/HNMLS ruins my chance for most elite gear.
Kirin's Osode when I can get the money. (At this rate, 3 years)

----EDIT---- Forgot to say that I almost Always eat meat. The only time I eat sushi is if I run out of meat, am in the North Dynamis Areas, or and fighting something where I do NOT want to miss. (mission type stuff). I usually eat Siskababi if I need to be flexible or have no idea the duration of the party. I eat Yellow curry when I know I am going to be at it for a long time. Can't afford Dragon food.



Edited, Oct 23rd 2007 12:55am by shishimura

Skadi Bazubands is the best piece for WS, but its 5 STR 5 AGI is not a good trade between racc/rattk/AGI compared to other competitors

There's a lot of ways that people get rich in this game without buying gil but poor players never seem to pursue them and as such think that the only way to get rich is to buy gil. Assaults, ENM/ashu talif, crafting, farming, gardening, NM hunting, digging, etcetc.

deja-vu...

I had this kind of argument in blue mage forum XD
resulting me got sub-defaulted (for the first time lol)

get your Sky Access

No sky @75 seems almost like a sin...

Edited, Oct 25th 2007 9:42am by woooter

Working on it. Had a hell of a time getting people for ZM4. Now I am playing the waiting game on ZM5. Seems that someone can't make it on any given day. Oh well, I am most likely going to move on without the group. After that, have people lined up for fights when I need help. OH, and Rng being first job to 75 is not that great, if I was 75 Nin or Rdm I could solo a lot of this... but alas we are not the kings of Solo work.

It's coming though... and I am trying to find a Sky LS right now...

for STR build, why not fire/vulcan's staff / axe grip... 7-8 STR and 10 ranged attack

Hmmm, redvenomweb says Woodville's is junk but clearly from the OP's post: Kriegsbeil/Woody's > Kriegsbeil/Franny.



So which one is it? If OP's results are to be believed, then, in actual, fact Woodville's is not junk and it is simply depends on the preference of whether one wants the extra r.acc or the extra damage (very slightly).

Edited, May 18th 2008 9:35pm by RunawayDreams